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#116951: Feb 20th 2019 at 5:23:47 PM

Of course. Actually, doing that has made me realize that, for some strange reason, there isn't a Dark Meta Knight Spirit. Add that one to the list of "characters in Smash that aren't represented as Spirits" alongside Marshadow, Ash-Greninja, and all of the Final Fantasy 7 Stage Hazard Summons.

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Google "big ears"
#116952: Feb 20th 2019 at 5:37:50 PM

He is an alt though.

And post-Sakurai Kirby content, which is scarce

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#116953: Feb 20th 2019 at 5:38:55 PM

That’s what he’s saying. He’s represented in Smash, but doesn’t have a Spirit.

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#116954: Feb 20th 2019 at 6:34:41 PM

A dataminer found a text string suggesting that Mementos will be Joker's stage.

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IHE
#116955: Feb 20th 2019 at 6:37:34 PM

I wonder if that means Joker will have a gameplay trailer or they'll just release him & upload those 40 secs of gameplay video

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#116957: Feb 20th 2019 at 6:52:26 PM

There will be no footage of Joker. Even in-game, he is invisible 98% of the time.

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Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#116958: Feb 20th 2019 at 6:58:39 PM

I knew he'd have that as his stage.

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DoorCurtain Since: Nov, 2017
#116959: Feb 20th 2019 at 7:15:41 PM

Mementos is neat but it's far from the most interesting stage choice from P5. That's a shame.

Hopefully they make the stage interesting and exciting despite how dull it is compared to the Palaces.

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#116960: Feb 20th 2019 at 10:13:21 PM

Idea for a game mechanic: characters no longer enter Special Fall when they use moves starting on the stage. This is to make recovery moves more viable as offensive tools. More specifically, it's to allow Wolf to actually get kills with his Side B without killing himself.

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#116961: Feb 20th 2019 at 10:17:57 PM

Wolf's Side-B is more for punishing edgeguarders on your way back to the stage.

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#116962: Feb 21st 2019 at 12:36:27 AM

That would also literally only be useful for Wolf.

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Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
Mighty No. 51345
#116963: Feb 21st 2019 at 2:13:56 AM

Also, Wolf is already pretty strong.

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#116964: Feb 21st 2019 at 6:06:06 AM

I know some characters use their Up B as a kill move. This would make it safer to do so, if they start the move standing on the ground.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Feb 21st 2019 at 7:06:26 AM

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#116965: Feb 21st 2019 at 6:52:14 AM

If their recovery move is a common kill, why are you trying to make it safer? Unless they’re horribly underpowered, there’s really no reason to remove drawbacks like that.

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#116966: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:14:26 AM

Mementos, the freshmaker.

Also even though me and my brother enjoy free for all we sometimes hate how CPUS like to ruin shit.

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#116967: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:14:56 AM

I'm not even sure just who it'd be helping. The four most prominent I can think of that can use their up special for a kill move are Ness, Luigi, Squirtle, and Charizard, and honestly they all have enough options that I'm not sure whether it even matters. I guess it'd also help the Links, Ryu, Ken, and Shulk a bit, but their up specials aren't the best for a KO in most situations.

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#116968: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:29:30 AM

Also, weird shit with the Marios, Piranha Plant, and K. Rool.

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#116969: Feb 21st 2019 at 8:55:35 AM

Does Zero Suit Samus still primarily kill with her up-special, or has that changed since Smash 4?

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#116970: Feb 21st 2019 at 10:02:28 AM

Hmm... it actually might be more useful for the ones Weirdguy mentions (and probably also Lucas), because I could see incorporating up specials into combos if I was able to do another move after an up special. Though the Marios probably wouldn't benefit as much, as their aerial game isn't that strong outside of their back air (and you'd probably want neutral or up air for a post-up special combo).

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#116971: Feb 21st 2019 at 10:45:50 AM

[up] Isn't the forward air a.k.a the dunk considered one of Mario's strongest options because of meteor smash?

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#116972: Feb 21st 2019 at 10:55:24 AM

Huh? Mario's air game is incredibly good due to his aerials coming out very quick, a pretty fast air speed, and forward aerial providing a very potent tool to scare people and take stocks.

Dr. Mario... not so much. He's simply too slow to have an very good air game.

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#116973: Feb 21st 2019 at 11:09:21 AM

Maybe I'm just used to playing characters with better aerial games. Besides which, unless you space it right, the neutral or up aerials would be much more useful after Mario's up special if he could act after it.

Edited by 32_Footsteps on Feb 21st 2019 at 2:10:33 PM

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#116974: Feb 21st 2019 at 11:13:47 AM

Up special is usually a finisher anyway, or a way to get out of a tough situation

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#116975: Feb 21st 2019 at 12:09:53 PM

ZSS Up Special is much weaker in the air now, you have to use it on the ground to kill mostly.

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