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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#113476: Dec 6th 2018 at 9:58:25 PM

Clearly Joker would be a better protagonist if he was gayer.

Yes, unironically. That's actually related to one of my criticisms of P5, its social critique is well-meaning but it doesn't go anywhere near far enough and actively undermines it in multiple ways. But I digress.

Also yes I think he will probably use his gun.

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#113477: Dec 6th 2018 at 9:58:42 PM

To be completely honest, I've seen excuses far more petty than that from this fandom.

I would have been very surprised if every DLC character was widely excepted by the playerbase. Both Cloud and Bayonetta caused a huge stir among the fanbase when they were revealed and I imagine Joker (and any other DLC character at this point) won't be any different.

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#113478: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:02:12 PM

Everyone is here and the two biggest guns are in. DLC will being salt but i feel the fandom wont be as salty as they were in 4's period.

Shit i hope.

Uni cat
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#113479: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:03:10 PM

Wasn't a big part of the reason behind the salt the fact that Bayonetta turned out to be completely broken and was spammed in every tournament?

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#113482: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:05:02 PM

She was the ballot winner.

That bothered a lot of people. Especially the K. Rool crowd and spawned a thousand conspiracy theories

Being broken didnt help

Uni cat
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#113483: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:19:40 PM

You know, I think a long time ago in this very thread I was quite adamant about Joker not making it into smash. I said it was ridiculous, and that while a SMT rep wasn't impossible it would definitely be Flynn or Jack Frost.

Show what I freaking know.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#113484: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:23:03 PM

If you look back far enough (like two years ago), I think there's a post of me saying that Joker was my most wanted newcomer.

Then I soured on Persona 5.

Then he was like... fifteenth. At best.

My how the universe works in ironic ways.

Edited by LordVatek on Dec 6th 2018 at 1:24:56 PM

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DoorCurtain Since: Nov, 2017
#113485: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:24:52 PM

Since nobody listed Reggie's exact words, here they are:

So this gives you a flavor of how we're approaching the DLC. So the DLC, there's going to be five characters, each character will come with a stage, it'll come with a collection of music, these are going to be characters that are new to the series, just like Joker from Persona 5, characters that you would not anticipate to be in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. We're super excited about this, the fans can go and they could get the Fighter's Pass to get all of the five fighters that'll be coming to the series. We're tremendously excited.

This has interesting implications, but it does mean that Dixie Kong's chances have sadly dropped. I would have paid six dollars for a Diddy semi clone and a Tropical Freeze stage, but Dixie isn't a character we "would not anticipate." i.e. she probably isn't newsworthy.

I hope Dixie does get announced later, but I'm no longer holding my breath for her.

Edited by DoorCurtain on Dec 6th 2018 at 10:25:17 AM

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#113486: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:25:46 PM

He does seem to be an extremely snappy dresser, which helps make a great first impression, but despite being a popular game nobody has tried to beat me over the head about how great a story P5 has despite everyone doing that to me with P3, P4 and most of the SMT's.

I did just get the game from the PSN sale though so I can judge for myself soon.

Think the Fire Emblem cast will find him familiar?

Bleye knows Sabers.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#113487: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:30:03 PM

P5 has a decent story... up until this one part that retroactively ruins the rest of the game. In my opinion.

That said you should totally see for yourself. It's a fun ride up until then.

Edited by LordVatek on Dec 6th 2018 at 1:33:14 PM

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#113488: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:30:04 PM

*Still holding out my flag for Veronica*

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
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#113489: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:33:36 PM

Wasn't a big part of the reason behind the salt the fact that Bayonetta turned out to be completely broken and was spammed in every tournament?

It's like fasoman said.

Bayonetta was getting flak before players realized how broken she ended up being. I remember arguments everywhere, even here, complaining about her inclusion, most of it centered around Sakurai saying she was the ballot winner, and people griping about her relative obscurity at the time.

As for Reggie's words, I really hope "series already represented" doesn't include series whose only representation are Spirits... I feel like that would limit the DLC options heavily.

EDIT: I gotta admit, this is the first I heard comments that were disappointed by P5's story. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I have yet to go back over it and give it a second look.

Edited by Customer on Dec 6th 2018 at 1:37:04 PM

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#113490: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:34:57 PM

[up]Except he didn't say that. He said 'five new characters'. That's it. Nothing about series already being represented excluded.

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#113492: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:38:15 PM

I severely doubt Spirits are going to be a limiting factor. Look at Chrom still being a part of Robin's Final Smash. Look at all the insane conspiracy theories people made up about hints that where completely, blatantly false. Look at Joker getting in.

There are no rules at this point.

(Except maybe that "Protagonist first" thing that is hurting the inclusion of Ensemble Dark Horse types and women.)

Bleye knows Sabers.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#113493: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:39:13 PM

I gotta admit, this is the first I heard comments that were disappointed by P5's story. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I have yet to go back over it and give it a second look.

My issue is Akechi. Just... everything about him. Also on replays, the game in general just sort of... falls apart after the first two dungeons and Shido is a lame villain.

Edited by LordVatek on Dec 6th 2018 at 1:39:54 PM

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DoorCurtain Since: Nov, 2017
#113494: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:45:24 PM

Reggie never said the words "series already represented" anywhere.

Guys, my post is near the top of this page, Reggie's Exact Words are in there. Read them carefully.

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#113495: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:02:38 PM

In any case, it sounds like they're going for unpredictability with the DLC roster, which sounds like a good thing. If we can get another female character and another "unorthodox" character, I think I'll be happy.

My issue is

I think I get what you mean; looking back I remember thinking the game handled them... well, not poorly, but something felt off. I probably won't figure it out until I look at the game again.

...Hm... here's hoping Joker's inclusion won't end up inadvertently spoiling things from P5.

Edited by Customer on Dec 6th 2018 at 2:12:40 PM

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#113496: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:04:17 PM

Literally my only issue with Joker was the fact that as far as I knew he was never on a Nintendo system. And then I found out that as of a week ago in Japan, he is. Nitpicky complaint retracted, engage hype mode and BRING ME SORA!!!

NOMUUUUUUUURAAAAAAAA!!! >:(
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#113497: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:13:10 PM

No way they'll add Cloud he's hardly been in a Nintendo game.

No way they'll add Bayonetta she's way too M-Rated for smash.

No way they'll add Joker SMT has much more appropriate reps.

No way they'll add Sora there's too much issues with the rights.

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JRads47 Me Listening to You RN from Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center Since: Dec, 2014
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#113498: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:17:57 PM

No way they'll add Shrek he's not a video game character

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#113499: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:28:42 PM

Who's ready for Dante, Hatsune Miku, Reimu and Sol Badguy DLC?

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#113500: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:29:35 PM

i'll take it

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