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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#251: Dec 24th 2010 at 12:56:45 PM

I don't know. I've heard conflicting things. For one thing, Sakurai was pretty clear on that he doesn't want to work on another Smash game after Brawl. They almost had to bribe him for that one in the first place.

If you ask me, that would likely be a good thing. tongue

But someone also made a thread recently about how Sakurai apparently said that no Smash will be as "hardcore" again as Melee. So, eh.

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#252: Dec 24th 2010 at 2:23:27 PM

Clearly he is not allowed to change his mind. He's at least acknowledged that his feelings have changed.

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#253: Dec 24th 2010 at 3:19:11 PM

Well, I thought there was a Smash being made for the 3DS (it was either new or a port), but I can't find anything about it (my search-fu is weak though).

I originally thought the series was going to remain a once-a-console game, since it seems to sell about as well as Nintendo's other franchises. It's a fun series and it's nice to have a way of playing with Nintendo's history rather than just reading about it.

Electivirus Since: Jan, 2001
#254: Dec 24th 2010 at 3:21:08 PM

Trust me, if there were any hint at all that there was going to be an entry on the 3DS, it'd be all over the internet by now.

Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
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#255: Dec 24th 2010 at 5:16:53 PM

Saukurai wanted Brawl to be the last in the series.

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#256: Dec 24th 2010 at 5:40:26 PM

[up][up] Yeah I figured as much, otherwise you guys would've been talking about that.

[up]Yeah, but I assumed that meant that if Nintendo wanted to continue the franchise, they'd probably have to find someone else do it because he was done with it. In any case, it's not like he won't ever change his mind.  *

asiacatdogblue This Won't End Well... from Chicago, IL Since: Feb, 2010
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#257: Dec 25th 2010 at 9:41:10 AM

From what I heard, many fans actually want someone else, other than Sakurai, to make the next game. That could be debatable.

(sigh) When I first saw the commericals of the first game for the N64, I thought it was going to be somewhat of another Mario game. Or mainly just have more Mario characters than what was actually shown back then, with a few non-Mario extras( My first thought concerning the commerical was "What is pikachu doing with a bunch of Mario characters?").

Hey, in terms of Nintendo in General, Mario/Red M was all I knew then(of course, I did hear of the names Starfox and F-ZERO then and I first known of Pocket Monsters through a Promotional Video tape I got from the mail, If not for the Big N's logo, I probably would have never bothered). I own a SEGA Genesis then along with an NES and SNES.

What about you? I know most of you have heard of Zelda back then.

edited 25th Dec '10 9:41:32 AM by asiacatdogblue

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#258: Dec 25th 2010 at 9:52:09 AM

I think Captain Falcon was the only character in the original Smash Bros that made me go, "Who?" but I've been gaming since I was 3.

I am guilty of believing Marth and Roy in Melee were original characters until I had Fire Emblem pointed out to me.

edited 25th Dec '10 9:52:28 AM by TobiasDrake

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#259: Dec 25th 2010 at 10:40:58 AM

Roy actually appeared in Melee before FE 6 came out.

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Electivirus Since: Jan, 2001
#260: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:51:29 AM

I remember not knowing a thing about Capt. Falcon or Ness.

^ Marth Debuted in "Smash Bros."

Scisless What's That Zach? from The End of Time Since: Apr, 2009
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#261: Dec 25th 2010 at 11:59:53 AM

As a kid I didn't know who Samus, Falcon, and Ness were. Ironic, considering Samus became my best character and my favorite Nintendo character.

edited 25th Dec '10 12:00:04 PM by Scisless

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#262: Dec 25th 2010 at 12:15:15 PM

When I first saw the game I was wondering who Samus, C. Falcon, and Ness were. Now I use Samus all the time even though I've never played a Metroid game in my life.

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#263: Dec 25th 2010 at 5:35:44 PM

I remember learning about Fire Emblem and Earthbound and Game And Watch via learning about the characters so I could beat my friends in Melee (As I don't own Melee, I still suck at it). Also, I distinctly remember thinking that Samus was a dude.

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#264: Dec 25th 2010 at 5:41:33 PM

[up]Ha, a lot of people thought that. Hell, some still do and a few even think Samus was always a guy and that the girl is just there for fanservice.

The only character I didn't know about when the first Smash came out was Captain Falcon, and that was because I have never seen him before that game. F Zero itself wasn't new to me though.

And I still find it funny that I seemed to be one of the few people who was aware that Marth didn't premier in Melee. I mean, I didn't know who he was, nor his game series, but I knew he wasn't created specifically for Melee.

edited 25th Dec '10 5:41:50 PM by Customer

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#265: Dec 25th 2010 at 5:44:57 PM

I had played the original Metroid before, but I didn't own the game so I had almost completely forgotten about it and didn't recognize Samus.

No clue who Ness or Captain Falcon were. I had no idea who Marth or Roy were. Didn't know the Ice Climbers. I didn't know who Mr. Game And Watch was until someone told me he was the guy from Octopus. I had heard of ROB but again, did not recognize him right away.

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#266: Dec 25th 2010 at 8:31:32 PM

Ha, a lot of people thought that. Hell, some still do and a few even think Samus was always a guy and that the girl is just there for fanservice.

wild mass guessShe's a girl when she's outside the suit, but as soon as she suits up, her gender magically changes to a guy. No, no, I will not accept the idea that she is just a woman in powered armor, that's ridiculous. Next you'll be telling me that Zelda doesn't undergo a magic sex change every time she morphs into Shiek.wild mass guess

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asiacatdogblue This Won't End Well... from Chicago, IL Since: Feb, 2010
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#267: Dec 26th 2010 at 12:36:12 AM

Wouldn't be surprised if they really believe that. To some, Samus Aran IS the Powered Armored Suit(or a robot), not a chick in the suit. thinking that, it gives them the immersion(I'm beginning to hate that word) that if there really is someone in the suit, It's the players themselves, not an actual character. Nintendo's motto is "the player is the main character," after all. It's like how they only see Mega Man(Rock Light) as an 8-Bit Sprite and ONLY an 8-Bit Sprite.

It could be argued that Nintendo doesn't really have any good, true female characters that can qualify for Super Smash Bros. Zelda's arguably the best you can get for this, but service says, "The fandom only wants and cares for Sheik, instead."

edited 26th Dec '10 12:38:10 AM by asiacatdogblue

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#268: Dec 26th 2010 at 12:03:04 PM

When I first played Smash Bros 64, the only character I knew was Pikachu, which is why I originally wanted to play it. Got to know the other characters and got their games. Like I was looking for a non-Pokemon game to have, and saw the Game Boy port of Donkey Kong Country and thought "Hey, this guy is in Super Smash Bros." Something like that happened with pretty much every other character in Smash too. By the time Brawl came out, I was more versed in the Nintendo world, and knew alot more characters in the game. But to this day, I still haven't played any Mother, F-Zero, Fire Emblem or Pikmin games.

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#269: Dec 26th 2010 at 12:28:06 PM

It could be argued that Nintendo doesn't really have any good, true female characters that can qualify for Super Smash Bros. Zelda's arguably the best you can get for this, but service says, "The fandom only wants and cares for Sheik, instead."

Something inspire that post? I think people prefer Samus in her suit because they like the suit or because they spent the most of Metroid's games playing as Samus in her suit and feel that's how she's best represented. My online sessions have just as many people who like abusing Din's Fire with Zelda as there are needlers with Shiek. The only group I think honestly want no Zelda are the relationship fetishists, who have too loud a voice in non romance media.

Though admittedly, the only obvious female to be playable in a future Smash Bros would be Dixie from Donkey Kong. Maybe Alex from Eternal Darkness, Princess Shroob(more people want Geno/Fawful) or Metroid Prime/Dark Samus. Maybe Lip but those would all be weird and unexpected.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#270: Dec 26th 2010 at 12:31:12 PM

Captain Syrup needs to show up too, even if only as a boss. The fact the only representation Wario got was from Wario Ware disappointed me.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#271: Dec 26th 2010 at 12:32:40 PM

No offense, but Dixie would be horrible. Diddy is all the uninteresting chimp that the game needs.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#272: Dec 26th 2010 at 12:35:01 PM

"Uninteresting" is an extreme matter of opinion, really.

edited 26th Dec '10 12:35:11 PM by KnownUnknown

Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#273: Dec 26th 2010 at 12:37:34 PM

I would love if they had Dixie Kong. Then they would have both the mains from the best Donkey Kong related thing in all of existence (at least until I play Returns maybe). I could also then proceed to beat people with my hair and such things are always amusing.

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#274: Dec 26th 2010 at 12:51:30 PM

Captain Syrup could work I guess, but as far as I know, the Wario Land Series doesn't make it obvious how she would attack. Even from Wario Ware they at least have micro games associated with them. Mona-> Throw Pizza Box, shoot bowling ball, Cut with scissors, use something from after game cutscene...and I wouldn't even be all that excited to see any of the Wario Ware characters.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#275: Dec 26th 2010 at 1:04:01 PM

I can see them recycling one of the boss battles from the series - the battle from Wario Land 2 would make a good fight, if they tweaked it a bit.

As a playable character, though... yeah, they would probably have to pull a Captain Falcon and make a moveset out of the whole cloth.


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