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Rytex That Guy With The Face from Here. Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
That Guy With The Face
Feb 6th 2019 at 9:25:53 AM

Imperator Rome given release date, April 25th.

Peditum olfactum est peditum iactum.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Feb 6th 2019 at 9:28:30 AM

More unrealistic AI behavior from EU 4: some Asian nations (even tribal ones) will eventually explore the ocean... right up to the international date line. Beyond that is clearly verboten unless you have that exploration tech.

Zarastro from Badenland
Feb 7th 2019 at 9:12:37 AM

[up] Are you sure? In my current game the Mamelucks have colonized a significant part of South America?

Though I suppose this might be true for the East Asian countries, but this might also be down to balancing issues. Usually if a player play in Asia, he'll end up colonizing he New World decades before the Europeans arrive, and the same might count for the KI if there were no restrictions. Just think of the lack of naval attrition... .

However I must say, it is more important that the player can derail history, then some KI states. Some of my most entertaining games involved me playing a relatively minor power, that inadvertedly shook the continent to its' core.

And that is also something I am very much looking forward to in IR. Perhaps my little Armenia will end up as kingmaker in the Wars of the Diadochi. Or my little land grab in Italy as BOI will cause the first Punic War.

I suspect that there will be little chance of IR playing out exactly as history did (at least if the KI plays Rome). No doubt Rome will be usually very succesful, but unless the Diadochi completely tear each other apart, it is unlikely that it can become the predominant power of the game. The difference in size is just to big (Rome had according to a stream a starting population of 400-500 pops, Egypt has e.g. 2000). So at least people will hopefully not complain too much about how "unrealistic" the game is.

99 Erdogans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYcCSY1LZg0
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Feb 7th 2019 at 10:55:04 AM

I wonder how good Rome will do in the game, since there are so many factors that could change. The AI will probably cheat mercilessly to give Rome an advantage.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Relationship Status: It's complicated
Druplesnubb Editor of Posts
Editor of Posts
Feb 7th 2019 at 11:14:46 AM

There's no reason for Rome's ai to cheat when Rome is alread the strongest power in Italy by a wide margin. It won't always keep its dominant position but that's a good thing.

Zarastro from Badenland
Feb 7th 2019 at 11:30:22 AM

[up] From what we have seen in Streams and Let's plays, Rome is in a good position to conquer South Italy, which will give them a significant boost to its' already good starting position. Whether or not Etruscia (which is set as a rival at the start) will be able to oppose them will probably decide if they can conquer the rest of Rome. After that it will most likely depend on how the AI can handle expansion, and how good it is in keeping a large Empire together.

99 Erdogans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYcCSY1LZg0
math792d The justification for everything from Tesladyne, LLC Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
The justification for everything
Feb 7th 2019 at 2:37:26 PM

[up]x3 I finally have a release date for Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo and it's after I start my internship? Boo D:

The news that they have nothing to fear is guaranteed to strike fear into the hearts of innocents everywhere.
Balmung Chain Breaker from Nebraska, Free American Empire Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Chain Breaker
Feb 7th 2019 at 4:01:49 PM

New Stellaris beta buffs machine and synthetic empires significantly. More starting pops when colonizing, immediate access to the second fabricator job, 50% higher energy drone output, and some more stuff.

I want some flying cars, a ticket to the stars / Or even just a world without religious wars
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
Feb 7th 2019 at 4:03:25 PM

ooo, any proper notes or anything?

Oh really when?
TuefelHundenIV Watchman of the Apocalypse from Wandering Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Watchman of the Apocalypse
Feb 7th 2019 at 4:14:28 PM

Yes, excellent. -Laughs in Synthetic-

"Who watches the watchmen?"
MarkVonLewis from Somewhere in Time Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Feb 7th 2019 at 4:47:42 PM

In my current playthrough, I just terraformed Mars and colonized it. I'm in the process of turning it into an ecumenopolis, focusing on entirely foundry arcologies and alloy foundries. It will be the greatest forge world ever.

Medusa strippers, where the phrase "my eyes are up here" is a dangerous phrase.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Relationship Status: It's complicated
Feb 7th 2019 at 5:11:41 PM

One of my friends had a Machine Empire that had an economy rivaling that of a Fallen Empire, within a century. Those buffs are...substantial.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Feb 7th 2019 at 7:27:08 PM

More AI shenanigans in EU 4: Colonial Australia decides for some reason to put it's capital in New Zealand. Then it goes independent and forms Australia proper. Giving the main continent the priceless name of "Australian Australia".

Balmung Chain Breaker from Nebraska, Free American Empire Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Chain Breaker
Feb 7th 2019 at 9:15:35 PM

New Zealand has the richest provinces in the colonial region, which is probably why that one happened.

I want some flying cars, a ticket to the stars / Or even just a world without religious wars
Ramidel Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Feb 7th 2019 at 9:29:40 PM

@theLibrarian: You mean aside from the time they attacked Constantinople?

The Vikings got around. The main reason they didn't range past Iberia very often was because the Med really isn't a good sea for sailing ships, particularly when there's galleys afloat that will absolutely murder the comparatively small and light Viking craft.

Fiat justitia ruat caelum.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Relationship Status: It's complicated
Feb 8th 2019 at 1:00:34 PM

The Vikings generally preferred to raid close, and trade far. Easier to get away when home is close by.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
raziel365 Anka Aquila from Lima, Perú Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
Feb 10th 2019 at 3:17:08 PM

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Constantinople could be reached by using the Dnieper river, and the Rus vikings had already established control over the riverbanks of North Eastern Europe by the time they went for the great city.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Feb 10th 2019 at 4:41:48 PM

Indeed, and CKII simulates this now by making several large European rivers navigable to Viking raiders.

Which would also be an interesting addition to EU 4, by the way. Rivers played a major role in warfare and troop movement, and EU 4 does a poor job of simulating that.

Edited by Redmess on Feb 10th 2019 at 1:43:03 PM

Ramidel Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Feb 11th 2019 at 9:10:09 PM

The Vikings generally preferred to raid close, and trade far. Easier to get away when home is close by.

Also because Andalusia paid lots of gold for their phat loot.

Fiat justitia ruat caelum.
Zarastro from Badenland
Feb 12th 2019 at 9:43:27 AM

This discussion reminds how important it is that historians wake up and discover the importance of video games as a conveyer of history. Or that the government realizes how influential video games can be in shaping the public conscious, and start subsidizing them as they would a documentary. I mean there are few factors that have helped to e.g. spread Sweden's history around the world then Paradox games (of course certain bands also count).

99 Erdogans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYcCSY1LZg0
theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world
That all you got?
Feb 12th 2019 at 11:12:39 AM

Yeah, like how back when the History Channel was good, they used Rome Total War's engine to showcase the battles.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Relationship Status: It's complicated
Feb 12th 2019 at 11:23:10 AM

[up][up]Can't wait for all the trolls and nutters to go "keep the politics out of gaming!" if that ever happens.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
math792d The justification for everything from Tesladyne, LLC Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
The justification for everything
Feb 12th 2019 at 11:23:28 AM

I think historians have realized this, it's just that video games are shit at portraying history for the same reason television is - time constraints and the need to make it engaging for the audience means you need to make concessions to the historical reality. Sometimes it works, like when Invicta did a series on the myth of Spartan military supremacy (where he consulted with a historian), and most of the time (like Extra Credits' history spinoff) you just get regurtitated pop culture nonsense.

The news that they have nothing to fear is guaranteed to strike fear into the hearts of innocents everywhere.

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