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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

Malady (X-Troper)
#4401: Sep 5th 2025 at 8:44:10 AM

Either alphabetically folders, or maybe pull out the Franchises so they aren't duplicating themselves?

Topper, talking about Funny.Video Games.

Edited by Malady on Sep 5th 2025 at 8:44:26 AM

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#4402: Sep 6th 2025 at 1:12:24 AM

@4399: I believe a red warning is triggered when the actual character counter, as opposed to the HTML, hits 500k and appears next to the character counter itself. Red warnings should be very rare unless a page hasn't been touched by anyone not ignoring the blue warning while being obliviously added to all the while (or if someone's spamming a bunch of unformatted text).

MummyGaGa Mermaid Sparkla from A magical realm Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Mermaid Sparkla
#4403: Sep 6th 2025 at 4:38:29 AM

For the record, I went ahead and created the Memes.Sonic The Hedgehog Video Games page, as 24 hours have passed and no one gave any objections to creating such a page.

BTW, please call me Jake.
KyrieUmineko Huey Emmerich from Somewhere in Bendigo Since: Nov, 2024 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Huey Emmerich
#4404: Sep 6th 2025 at 4:56:59 AM

Characters.Resident Evil Umbrella Corporation is 301,422 characters long and showing the warning. My suggested split would be to give William Birkin and Brian Irons their own character pages.

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#4405: Sep 7th 2025 at 7:13:35 AM

For Quotes.Fire Emblem Heroes, which is on the list:

I'm thinking of splitting the page into two: one for the summon quotes, and one for the confessions. Will this be doable?

Excessive-Menace Time to SLEEP from the Velvet Cage (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Time to SLEEP
#4406: Sep 7th 2025 at 11:49:10 AM

Characters.Jujutsu Kaisen Cursed Spirits has the too long warning. Perhaps the Disaster Curses can have their own page since it's the largest section at 161,985 bytes.

SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMY
Siegfried1337 Calabash. from The Eastern Luminant Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
sayaleviathan Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#4408: Sep 7th 2025 at 6:43:29 PM

The To Be Hero X character page got the blue warning with 252,376 characters. I suggest a split where the Top 10 main heroes get a separate page.

KyrieUmineko Huey Emmerich from Somewhere in Bendigo Since: Nov, 2024 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Huey Emmerich
#4409: Sep 7th 2025 at 11:08:33 PM

Decided to make sandboxes for my suggested split for Characters.Resident Evil Umbrella Corporation, as I haven't seen any objections.

Edited by KyrieUmineko on Sep 13th 2025 at 1:26:30 AM

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#4410: Sep 8th 2025 at 9:08:32 PM

Characters.Pokemon Generation I Bulbasaur To Parasect is giving the warning.

Since there's 18 folders I'm leaning towards splitting it into Characters.Pokemon Generation I Bulbasaur To Arbok and Characters.Pokemon Generation I Pichu To Parasect.

Alternatively, we do Characters.Pokemon Generation I Bulbasaur To Pidgeot, Characters.Pokemon Generation I Rattata To Nidoking, and Characters.Pokemon Generation I Cleffa To Parasect, six folders to each page.

Edited by rmctagg09 on Sep 8th 2025 at 12:19:01 PM

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#4411: Sep 9th 2025 at 4:46:57 AM

I would lean towards a two-way split but to check to make sure the sizes of the resulting pages wouldn't be too unbalanced before formalizing them. It's possible content may be more concentrated in some folders than others.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#4412: Sep 9th 2025 at 6:13:45 AM

If we split the page in half, Bulbasaur-Arbok would be roughly 124k bytes, while Pichu-Parasect would be 126k bytes, so it'd be a fairly even split.

KyrieUmineko Huey Emmerich from Somewhere in Bendigo Since: Nov, 2024 Relationship Status: Abstaining
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#4415: Sep 10th 2025 at 5:52:13 AM

[up] I'd rather we split all the Kanto starters on their own page than just give a single page for just the Charmander line. The Kanto starters are often grouped together and the group as a whole does get preferential treatment by Gamefreak, so it makes sense to have a dedicated page for them.

I know our general rule is to prioritize splitting off groups before individual characters, and giving the Kanto starters their own page would be a decent way of doing that.

DoctorSleep Since: Nov, 2013
#4416: Sep 10th 2025 at 11:02:41 AM

We could do that, but currently the Bulbasaur and Squirtle lines are each about 10-20,000 bytes in each folder, so however they're organised is going to risk creating some folders with the bare minimum in them.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#4417: Sep 10th 2025 at 11:46:56 AM

I'm still in favour of splitting the pages in half with the Bulbasaur-Arbok and Pichu-Parasect pages. It's seems the simplest way to do it, and both pages will be roughly the same length as I mentioned before. So, there's less risk of both pages triggering the "too long warning" again.

LarrytheKing (Apprentice)
#4419: Sep 10th 2025 at 7:22:42 PM

I would give the franchise folder a separate page.

LarrytheKing (Apprentice)
#4420: Sep 10th 2025 at 7:24:37 PM

For CelebrityParadox.Marvel Cinematic Universe, I made a suggestion for splitting them into 2 separate pages. 1 for the Infinity Saga and the other for the Multiverse Sage. Can we do that?

FSharp Resisting a rest Since: Jan, 2019 Relationship Status: I wanna know what love is
#4421: Sep 10th 2025 at 8:59:52 PM

[up] Would the examples be sorted based on the film in which the paradoxical work appears, or the film in which the actor who is also in the paradoxical work appears?

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Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#4422: Sep 12th 2025 at 6:41:38 PM

Character Perception Evolution has the warning.

[down] That's what I was thinking, too. Done.

Edited by Berrenta on Sep 14th 2025 at 12:23:27 PM

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#4423: Sep 12th 2025 at 7:06:36 PM

[up] The Anime folder is easily the biggest one, so moving it to its own subpage would fix that.

Malady (X-Troper)
#4424: Sep 14th 2025 at 10:02:28 AM

MisattributedSong.A To M

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N1KF Alleged Number1KirbyFan (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Alleged Number1KirbyFan
#4425: Sep 17th 2025 at 9:50:50 PM

Length-wise, the closest to MisattributedSong.A To M's middle point is between A-F and G-M.


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