Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.
It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine
They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.
I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.
another programmer's thing
Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning
Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM
217 kb.
I know there's a webseries and TV series that went through Adaptation Personality Change. Since even the page warns about this, I would if it would make sense to separate tropes that only applies to one of them.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Let's see... the section sizes (according to this site
) are:
- Families of the Sailor Guardians: 77.24 KB
- Juuban Municipal Junior High School: 57.56 KB
- Recurring civilians: 41.06 KB
- Minor and one-shot characters: 41.99 KB
- Codename: Sailor V characters: 13.92 KB
- Movie and side-story characters: 29.66 KB
The first two groups could be split into their own pages.
Stupid question: What's the threshold that triggers the too-big warning for a TVT page? After crosswicking examples into the Zelda pages, the pages grew very large, but not enough for a hard split requirement. I'd like to know ahead of time which Zelda page is closest to the limit, thanks.
135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311Ouch, that means The Wind Waker and Twilight Princess will need to be split. The former is at 250.5 and the latter is at 262.98
For the record, Ocarina of Time is at 238.5 and Majora's Mask is at 225.9; I haven't crosswicked anything on Skyward Sword yet, and Breath of the Wild is already split into subpages.
What's the division procedure to split the pages? Do I go by the weight of the folders or by splitting into equitable subpages?
135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311i think the weight of the folders is preferred over the number of them — SCP Foundation is split into A-D (4 folders), E-M (9 folders), N-R (4 folders), S-Z (7 folders), meaning it prioritizes an equal byte count over an equal number of folders
@Twiddler (several posts above): My understanding is that it's the HTML of the whole page that matters in terms of page size, not just the main body of text (with or without wiki formatting). I downloaded the "Families of the Sailor Guardians" page you created to iCloud and it came out at 213 KB (which, in light of the discussion between your two posts, should be fine because my understanding is that the warning pops up somewhere around 400-500 KB, though it doesn't seem to necessarily be consistent).
Edited by MorganWick on Jun 13th 2022 at 9:07:16 AM
- move all "Our Dumb Century" to the page?
When I get a chance, I'll see what I can do.
Well, the headlines are Exactly What It Says on the Tin, or something.
Or do you mean Our Dumb Century?
Edited by Malady on Jun 17th 2022 at 10:59:24 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Removed Our Dumb Century examples and it no longer gives the warning, for now. Leaving this here as Not a Subversion:
- Straight Edge Evil: Subverted in "Our Dumb Century," in an article in which mobsters support Prohibition... because they'd profit from illegal alcohol sales.
Edited by MorganWick on Jun 17th 2022 at 7:24:06 AM
requesting a split for the "Other Media" section of this into its own subpage
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/HellGirlHellCorrespondence
Characters.Monster Sanctuary is starting to lag in the editor, but it could just be my phone. Is it worth splitting the species into their own page like we did with Temtem?

Characters.Aggretsuko was lagging when I edited it. Should we split it?