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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#2301: Mar 9th 2022 at 2:10:32 PM

I notice Memes.Pokemon The Series has a folder for "The Twitch marathon". Is that referring to Twitch Plays Pokemon?

(in reference to [up]x4)

Edited by Twiddler on Mar 9th 2022 at 2:15:01 AM

TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#2302: Mar 9th 2022 at 2:22:52 PM

[up] IIRC, Twitch once had an official marathon that showed a huge chain of Pokémon episodes, so it is referring to that.

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bwburke94 I am mad scientist! It's so cool! from 1.048596% (Y2: Electric Boogaloo) Relationship Status: She does the things you do, but she is an IBM
I am mad scientist! It's so cool!
#2303: Mar 9th 2022 at 11:20:10 PM

It's unrelated to TPP, which has its own page.

2025: the year it all ends?
MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#2304: Mar 10th 2022 at 1:58:22 AM

Split ContestedSequel.Video Games. The main Contested Sequel page no longer has the warning but is at 339 KB, so should I split the Live-Action Film folder as well?

Edited by MorganWick on Mar 10th 2022 at 2:00:56 AM

MyFinalEdits Delete message from Parts Unknown (Spin-off Series) Relationship Status: Cast away
Delete message
#2305: Mar 10th 2022 at 7:18:51 AM

Sure!

BTW, I had said I would do the CS split, but I admit I forgot about it due to my current crosswicking project. So I thank you for volunteering to split that page. [tup][awesome]

Edited by MyFinalEdits on Mar 10th 2022 at 11:19:07 AM

135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311
Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#2306: Mar 10th 2022 at 10:45:44 AM

BoringButPractical.Real Life is really long and takes about an hour for even fast readers to read through thoroughly (it has over 335.5k characters including spaces).

Oh, and this page and the main page both have Sports sections.

Edited by Nen_desharu on Mar 10th 2022 at 2:13:15 PM

Kirby is awesome.
spyland2 Since: Jun, 2021
#2307: Mar 13th 2022 at 7:53:50 PM

Should we split Friendship Is Magic: Twilight Sparkle into separate pages according to the alphabet? I got a warning when checking out the editor that the page was getting too long so thoughts? Thanks.

Edited by spyland2 on Mar 13th 2022 at 10:05:41 AM

Malady (X-Troper)
#2308: Mar 13th 2022 at 8:45:41 PM

How many of them aren't Character Tropes? Like Tail Slap, that seems like a single-episode thing and can / should be deleted?

Edited by Malady on Mar 13th 2022 at 8:45:55 AM

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#2309: Mar 13th 2022 at 8:46:52 PM

Right, we really should clean things up before considering a split.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
N1KF Alleged Number1KirbyFan (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Alleged Number1KirbyFan
#2310: Mar 13th 2022 at 9:18:48 PM

[up][up] A whole lot, it seems. In the T-Z folder, 8 of the first 9 tropes apply to only one episode.

Vandagyre I think I just got AC team loyalty from Dacardia (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
I think I just got AC team loyalty
#2311: Mar 24th 2022 at 11:24:47 AM

Characters.Pokemon The Series Team Rocket Trio is giving the warning. Given that the page contents are roughly 75% about the core trio and 25% about the Pokemon they've used throughout the years, what's the best way to split the page?

Cave Johnson, we're done here.
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#2312: Mar 24th 2022 at 12:27:27 PM

[up] Probably split into three pages: Meowth, Jessie and her Pokemon, and James and his Pokemon.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#2313: Mar 24th 2022 at 2:35:57 PM

We're actually discussing the Pokemon pages here.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#2314: Mar 24th 2022 at 7:55:59 PM

[up]That thread seems to be about the video game character pages, not the anime.

bwburke94 I am mad scientist! It's so cool! from 1.048596% (Y2: Electric Boogaloo) Relationship Status: She does the things you do, but she is an IBM
I am mad scientist! It's so cool!
#2315: Mar 24th 2022 at 8:32:52 PM

[up] Given that the Rocket trio appear in Pokémon Yellow and Pokémon Let's Go, it's tangentially related to a games-based cleanup effort.

2025: the year it all ends?
Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#2316: Mar 26th 2022 at 2:53:00 PM

While clearing wicks for You Gotta Have Blue Hair, I found Chainsaw Man, which has the too-long warning. Split the antagonist section off into its own page?

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
bowserbros No longer active. from Elsewhere Since: May, 2014
No longer active.
#2319: Apr 3rd 2022 at 11:35:48 AM

WMG.Todd In The Shadows Trainwreckords displays the warning banner. Given that the bulk of it is made up of the albums being predicted for the show that haven't been confirmed or deconfirmed yet, would it be best to split that section into multiple pages?

Be kind.
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#2320: Apr 3rd 2022 at 11:36:50 AM

[up] Do we need a section for deconfirmed albums? Isn't WMG guessing about theories that could be real?

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Apr 3rd 2022 at 2:36:58 PM

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
bowserbros No longer active. from Elsewhere Since: May, 2014
No longer active.
#2321: Apr 3rd 2022 at 11:46:45 AM

[up]Honestly, I'm not 100% sure what the format for this specific kind of WMG page ought to be, largely because it's predicting topics for future episodes rather than speculating on anything in-universe.

Personally I think putting the deconfirmed stuff in their own section(s) helps with organizing the page, but even if it used the otherwise typical format of keeping the deconfirmed examples among the unconfirmed ones with a "jossed" sub-bullet, it would still need considerable splitting.

Be kind.
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#2322: Apr 3rd 2022 at 1:57:03 PM

WMG is a free for all. It could be about genuine theories, joke theories, or things you just wish could be true.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#2323: Apr 3rd 2022 at 2:00:26 PM

[up] Oh OK. Wasn't sure if it was allowed under WMG, thanks for filling me in Jay.

Maybe we could split the deconfirmed and Jossed stuff together on one page?

Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
bowserbros No longer active. from Elsewhere Since: May, 2014
No longer active.
#2324: Apr 3rd 2022 at 2:10:24 PM

[up]Maybe, yeah, and if the main folders are still too long (or hit the "too long" threshold again in the future), those can probably be split off into subpages. The original page would then become a directory index.

Edited by bowserbros on Apr 3rd 2022 at 2:11:00 AM

Be kind.
MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#2325: Apr 4th 2022 at 1:09:07 AM

Regarding the Mohs Scale page, my first inclination would be to move the 8s to the 0-7 page, but that page is over 500 KB as it is (though not giving the warning as of yet), so we might want to go to a three-way split, and of course that means going through the rigamarole of changing the names of the existing pages...


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