Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.
It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine
They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.
I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.
another programmer's thing
Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning
Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM
Huey Emmerich
i have none, go ahead.
For Mortal Kombat: Guest Fighters, I was thinking of splitting the characters into separate pages, one for the Netherrealm continuity (9-11) and one for the new reboot continuity (1 and any future DLC)
Edited by BlueBlazes on Jan 19th 2025 at 9:45:11 AM
BlueBlazesMainstream Obscurity is getting the warning at over 200,000 characters, but splitting by medium seems fairly simple.
I may try that when I get the chance.
Edited by Lymantria on Jan 20th 2025 at 8:12:41 AM
Join the Five-Man Band cleanup project!While wick-cleaning, found that WMG.Multi Versus is showing the warning at 179,000+.
Edit: GetAStupidAnswer.Music is also showing the warning at 211,000+.
Edit 2: And IThoughtItMeant.A To C, at 186,000+.
Until next time...
Anon e Mouse Jr.
Edited by AnoneMouseJr on Jan 20th 2025 at 9:33:46 AM
If you're responding directly to one of my posts, please ping me to make sure I see it.I split off MainstreamObscurity.Music and the warning no longer appears, but the main Mainstream Obscurity page is still over 190,000 characters, so maybe split off more subpages if it gets too long again.
Join the Five-Man Band cleanup project!So it looks like Zenless Zone Zero: Agent Factions - Part 2 is getting a "too long" page warning. Is it time to make a "Part 3" page?
Part 2 can keep Victoria Housekeeping and the Sons of Calydon, while Section 6 and the Stars of Lyra can go to Part 3.
VideoGame.The Binding Of Isaac
Split into regular and VideoGame.The Binding Of Isaac Rebirth since that's already a redirect?
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Page was already split off, with Section 6 getting their own page.
Characters.Genshin Impact Natlan has hit the too long warning again. Perhaps the six tribes could get their own page? They combine up to 121,415 characters.
SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMYCharacters.Skullgirls DLC Characters - Split by already listed sections?
WMG.Hazbin Hotel Post Premiere Theories
XMeetsY.Western Animation Shows G To P
Edited by Malady on Feb 3rd 2025 at 7:28:10 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576I wouldn't mind splitting off Ambiguous Work Names, like Fanfic.Aberration?
Did it come up already or did we only know that it would?
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Until next time...
Anon e Mouse Jr.
If you're responding directly to one of my posts, please ping me to make sure I see it.Fine by me.
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Until next time...
Anon e Mouse Jr.
If you're responding directly to one of my posts, please ping me to make sure I see it.You probably should, I'm juggling a TLP and other projects.
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Okay, I've started playing with Sandbox.Ambiguity Index Works and Sandbox.Ambiguity Index Tropey Things to see where this might go. Sorted out the numeric and A folders so far, and done some math. Of 186 disambiguation pages looked at:
- 27 refer only to tropes, trope indices, or other non-narrative content, excluding creator pages
- 96 refer only to works or creators (mostly bands)
- 63 refer to both
The entire ambiguity index points to 2,819 pages at present.
This is not a proper usage check (not randomized), but if we were to go through with the split in this fashion and the proportions remain similar through the alphabet I would expect:
- Somewhere in the neighborhood of 1,400 entries on the "Tropey" page
- Somewhere around 2,400 remaining links on the "Works" page
- >900 of these entries would be duplicated across both pages
Of note: in my test sandbox, removing the 27 Tropey-only entries removed the "Too Long" message, so figure that the trigger point is somewhere around 2,800 for this kind of list.
Frankly, I'm not sure if the extra maintenance effort is worth the headroom, and we may need to re-think. This might depend on the purpose of Ambiguity Index: is this index supposed to be worried about indexing? That is, are the index navigation options for these sorts of entries considered important, or is this just a convenient way to maintain a list of disambiguation pages?
Hmm, if Anchor Points work as redirects, we could remove All Asians Are Alike and just point it to its entry on Administrivia.Split Tropes, if we make it say what two tropes it was split into.
Even if the redirect doesn't work perfectly, it's informative enough, and who's using the page anymore anyway?
In other things, Characters.Saikyou Juzoku Tensei is now too long.
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