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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

TroperNo9001 Dragon in Waiting from the Dollhouse (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: I turn to stone when you are gone
Dragon in Waiting
#3176: Mar 18th 2024 at 2:53:56 AM

Reposting since I haven't received suggestions yet on what to do with Summary.Video Games again.

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Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#3177: Mar 18th 2024 at 3:44:14 AM

Split alphabetically in half?

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TroperNo9001 Dragon in Waiting from the Dollhouse (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: I turn to stone when you are gone
Dragon in Waiting
#3178: Mar 18th 2024 at 5:39:24 AM

As I said, going by the byte count calculation I did in my initial post, it should be A-L and M-Z.

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Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#3179: Mar 18th 2024 at 5:51:04 AM

[up] I mean I'm [tup] that and don't think it'd be an issue to go with it.

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 18th 2024 at 3:51:15 PM

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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#3180: Mar 18th 2024 at 9:12:19 AM

Video Games of the 1990s is displaying the warning. Perhaps the games pages could have separate subpages/folders for franchises, just like the movie pages have?

Malady (X-Troper)
#3181: Mar 18th 2024 at 9:15:13 AM

Well, it seems like you're doing something. If we still need to do something after you're done, why not do the Split By Half-Decades like the other pages?

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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#3182: Mar 18th 2024 at 9:19:01 AM

The half decade suggestion might be simpler, because there’s a lot of games I’m not familiar enough with to know whether they’re part of franchises.

TroperNo9001 Dragon in Waiting from the Dollhouse (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: I turn to stone when you are gone
Dragon in Waiting
#3183: Mar 18th 2024 at 9:34:28 AM

[up][up][up][up]I've split it into Summary.Video Games Number To L and Summary.Video Games M To Z.

Edited by TroperNo9001 on Mar 19th 2024 at 12:34:38 AM

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DecafGrub47393 Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
#3184: Mar 18th 2024 at 5:29:23 PM

TriumphantExample/MToO is displaying the warning now

Edited by DecafGrub47393 on Mar 18th 2024 at 8:30:45 AM

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The Wanderer
#3186: Mar 18th 2024 at 9:38:42 PM

Characters.The Elder Scrolls Online is displaying the warning.

(Kinda wondering if the too-long threshold might be breaking again with all this increased activity.)

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Spinosegnosaurus77 Ramen Fairy from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
Ramen Fairy
#3188: Mar 18th 2024 at 11:32:09 PM

Noting for posterity that I split Classical Mythology: Olympians since it was displaying the warning; I’ll do Classical Mythology: Mortals and Demigods tomorrow if I have the time & energy.

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#3189: Mar 19th 2024 at 7:14:08 AM

[up][up] I would say 2000-2004, 2005-2009 like the other similar cases we had.

Malady (X-Troper)
#3190: Mar 19th 2024 at 7:45:51 AM

[up] - Yeah. I was wondering how 1990-1999 had the warning but 2000s didn't.

Should we start mandating half-decades now instead of full ones for Video Games?

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#3192: Mar 19th 2024 at 10:52:30 AM

^ We could split off one of the longer folders (ex. Anime) into its own page.

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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#3193: Mar 19th 2024 at 2:19:23 PM

Video Games of the 2020s is now displaying the warning.

Edited by costanton11 on Mar 19th 2024 at 4:19:39 AM

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#3194: Mar 19th 2024 at 2:52:27 PM

IThoughtItMeant.A To C and IThoughtThatWas.R To Z are giving the warning.

Edited by rmctagg09 on Mar 19th 2024 at 5:58:05 AM

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GrafVonTirol We can be heroes, just for one day from a state of boredom (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Standing outside, playing "In Your Eyes" on the boombox
We can be heroes, just for one day
#3196: Mar 19th 2024 at 5:50:50 PM

[up][up][up] Already? Oh boy, this would mean 5-year intervals will not suffice in that case.

In this case I suppose 2020-2022, 2023-2026 would do (with an implied 2027-2029 on the horizon when we get that far).

EDIT: Music of the 2000s now has it. I'll work a split the same way I did Music of the 2010s about a year back. I suppose I'll also remove the Genres section too (and on other decade indices).

EDIT 2: And speaking of Music of the 2010s... here we go again with Music of 2010–2014. Somebody readded genres there when past discussions here said to remove them.

Edited by GrafVonTirol on Mar 20th 2024 at 1:22:22 AM

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#3197: Mar 19th 2024 at 6:39:52 PM

Ouch, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker got hit as well. It's happened already to other Zelda games, so I can at least propose a solution when looking at the precedents. The page's examples are currently distributed across six folders. Maybe split into two subpages, one for the first three (thus A to M), and another for the other three (thus N to Z)?

135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311
Spinosegnosaurus77 Ramen Fairy from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
Ramen Fairy
#3198: Mar 19th 2024 at 10:00:46 PM

Throwing my hat in the ring for the 2020-2022/2023-2026/2027-2029 scheme, which we can copy on other pages where applicable.

Peace is the only battle worth waging.
costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#3199: Mar 20th 2024 at 5:51:55 AM

[up][up][up] Maybe remove the genres, citing the discussion, and see if the page still needs to be split afterwards.

GrafVonTirol We can be heroes, just for one day from a state of boredom (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Standing outside, playing "In Your Eyes" on the boombox
We can be heroes, just for one day
#3200: Mar 20th 2024 at 6:01:21 AM

It still puts the notice up. Even if it didn't it may still get to that point so may as well start.

EDIT: Still has that up for 2010-2014 too. May as well split the decade into 2010-2012, 2013-2016 and 2017-2019. This is going to suck...

Edited by GrafVonTirol on Mar 20th 2024 at 6:04:18 AM


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