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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#3151: Mar 17th 2024 at 1:05:11 AM

[up] Split the page.

Game Mod is now giving the warning.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
AudioSpeaks2 Since: Apr, 2022
#3152: Mar 17th 2024 at 1:10:06 AM

[up] I've split Role-Playing Games into their own subpage, so the "too long" suggestion isnt' there anymore.

StalkerGamer That's All, Folks! Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
#3153: Mar 17th 2024 at 7:58:57 AM

ImageSource.Anime And Manga, ImageSource.Webcomics and ImageSource.Western Animation are giving the warning. Should we split ?

Edited by StalkerGamer on Mar 17th 2024 at 12:01:05 PM

Andariel Never Found from Disappeared never to be seen again (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Never Found
#3154: Mar 17th 2024 at 8:23:10 AM

These pages already have some works split off into their own subpages. Currently, works with a list of links longer than a single desktop screen (and thus probably enough for a subpage as well) are:

  • Anime and Manga: Fullmetal Alchemist, Gundam, Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure, Naruto, Negima! Magister Negi Magi, Neon Genesis Evangelion, One Piece, Pretty Cure, Sailor Moon.
  • Webcomics: Brawl in the Family, Cyanide and Happiness, Freefall, Gunnerkrigg Court, Oglaf, Sluggy Freelance, VG Cats
  • Western Animation: Duck Tales, Gravity Falls, The Loud House, Phineas and Ferb, The Powerpuff Girls, Scooby-Doo, Steven Universe.

TroperNo9001 Dragon in Waiting from the Dollhouse (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: I turn to stone when you are gone
Dragon in Waiting
#3155: Mar 17th 2024 at 9:37:13 AM

I've split off Summary.Licensed Games from Summary.Video Games, but the latter still has the banner. Should we further hard split the folders alphabetically into two pages: A-L and M-Z? I calculated the midpoint to be 44,651 bytes (rounded up, not counting the folder markup and the preface), hence the suggested divisions.

Edited by TroperNo9001 on Mar 18th 2024 at 12:49:24 AM

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Malady (X-Troper)
#3157: Mar 17th 2024 at 12:43:58 PM

Anime & Manga:

Well, Digimon's one page tall for me?

Could split the Fullmetal Alchemist franchise out.

Gundam?

Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure?


Webcomics:

Brawl in the Family?

Gunnerkrigg Court?

Oglaf?

VG Cats?

Edited by Malady on Mar 17th 2024 at 12:51:23 PM

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StalkerGamer That's All, Folks! Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
#3158: Mar 17th 2024 at 1:39:58 PM

[up][up]For ImageSource.Anime And Manga, I think Fullmetal Alchemist and JoJo have the biggest ammount of examples compared to the rest.

Edited by StalkerGamer on Mar 17th 2024 at 5:40:13 AM

StalkerGamer That's All, Folks! Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
#3159: Mar 17th 2024 at 1:41:56 PM

For ImageSource.Webcomics, Gunnerkrigg Court looks good enough to have its own subpage

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#3160: Mar 17th 2024 at 1:56:04 PM

[up][up][up] I split off those four from Webcomics and the warning is gone now. It took splitting off all four to remove it.

  • Gunnerkrigg: 53 examples
  • Oglaf: 41
  • Brawl: 37
  • VG Cats: 37
  • total: 168

Edited by Twiddler on Mar 17th 2024 at 1:58:57 AM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#3161: Mar 17th 2024 at 2:04:37 PM

I split off 3 from Anime and Manga Fullmetal Alchemist, Gundam, and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, but it is still showing the warning:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_17_3_2024_16340_tvtropesorg.jpeg

Maybe One Piece would free it some more as that three is pretty long but I have to head to work and can't handle that right now.

Edited by Bullman on Mar 17th 2024 at 4:07:05 AM

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#3162: Mar 17th 2024 at 2:39:02 PM

I split off One Piece, but the warning is still there.

StalkerGamer That's All, Folks! Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
#3163: Mar 17th 2024 at 3:09:42 PM

Edited by StalkerGamer on Mar 17th 2024 at 7:11:01 AM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#3164: Mar 17th 2024 at 3:24:25 PM

Maybe Neon Genesis Evangelion or Naruto as they are both pretty big.

Edited by Bullman on Mar 17th 2024 at 5:24:47 AM

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Malady (X-Troper)
#3165: Mar 17th 2024 at 3:56:28 PM

Negima! Magister Negi Magi seems longer than Naruto?

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#3166: Mar 17th 2024 at 4:05:15 PM

[up] Looking at it again. You are correct.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#3167: Mar 17th 2024 at 4:34:50 PM

Made pages for Naruto, Negima! Magister Negi Magi, and Neon Genesis Evangelion which finally got rid of the warning.

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#3168: Mar 17th 2024 at 5:43:34 PM

Palette Swap is giving the warning.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
MyFinalEdits Delete message from Parts Unknown (Spin-off Series) Relationship Status: Cast away
Delete message
#3169: Mar 17th 2024 at 6:05:58 PM

Try moving the Fighting Game examples onto a subpage. That's one of the biggest folders (which isn't surprising).

135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#3170: Mar 17th 2024 at 6:13:35 PM

Honestly, I'd just move all the video game entries to their own page first.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#3171: Mar 17th 2024 at 6:15:20 PM

Yeah I would just move all of the video game examples and see how big that page is.

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#3172: Mar 17th 2024 at 8:38:17 PM

Split the videogame examples off into a subpage.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Ayumi-chan 3rd happiest man in Connecticut from Iacon City (Experienced Trainee) Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
3rd happiest man in Connecticut
#3173: Mar 17th 2024 at 8:43:06 PM

I noticed that Characters.Trails Series Ouroboros has a length notice. How should we split it?

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Malady (X-Troper)
#3174: Mar 17th 2024 at 9:22:13 PM

Well, "See this page for a list of characters in the series." Is unnecessary at least?

...

Can these overlap? Or do they have a familial relationship?

  • Offscreen Villain Dark Matter: Ouroboros seems to have nigh-unlimited resources.
  • Organization with Unlimited Funding:


Split out the Enforcers since they're like a group of their own, having so many folders and a General folder of their own?


Literature of the 2010s seems to be the first Literature by Year to need splitting into half-decades?

Edited by Malady on Mar 17th 2024 at 9:31:08 AM

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AudioSpeaks2 Since: Apr, 2022
#3175: Mar 17th 2024 at 9:54:13 PM

[up] I'm doing an effort to categorize and sort that entire page into specific years via Sandbox.Literature Of The2010s

I've also attempted to give franchises and series their own subpage: Literature of the 2010s — Franchises and Series

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Mar 18th 2024 at 12:54:38 AM


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