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Haha, pretending that literally anyone thought he was dead.
I just wonder if D&D are simply trying to be truthful here, or if they genuily do not understand how bad this confession makes them look like?
Normally I would guess the former, but considering how they were blissfully talking about Dany forgetingt the Iron fleet... .
Edited by Zarastro on Oct 30th 2019 at 2:32:06 PM
It almost feels more like trying to make excuses and minimising the blame on them, but it's working in the opposite way.
Edited by GoldenKaos on Oct 30th 2019 at 1:31:48 PM
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."No news on when it will premiere, or whether it will encompass more of Fire and Blood than the Dance.
Article from Watchers on the Wall which I doubt will change any minds but I thought worth posting:
Edited by Hodor2 on Oct 30th 2019 at 2:52:36 PM
Lol, "subverted expectations", that's a paddlin.
I'm not into Star Wars, so I can't say or compare, but this phrase is so funny after the final season of GoT and how it was received.
"Subverted expectations" and [X] kinda forgot about [Y] are the best and worst memes that came out of season 8.
Edited by XFllo on Oct 31st 2019 at 7:46:10 PM
Or it might be the writers thinking that character derailment is the same as character development. And thus they completely devalued previous great scenes.
Remember the intense scene with Jaime in the bath, when he told Brienne why he killed the king and shamed himself forever?
Or when Luke refused to give up on his father, even when Yoda and Obi-Wan told him that it was hopeless. And when he refused to give into his anger threw his lightsaber away?
I know that many people can't enjoy those scenes anymore, because they know how those characters will later nonsensically go against the values they expressed there, just to further the plot. At least I certainly can not.
Eh, I think it's more fans had 30 out-of-universe years to create their own idea of how the character should be.
But this is absolutely neither here nor there.
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A mistake Luke should have never made, as it went against everythin we saw about him in the OT. Just like "I never cared for the people, innocent of otherwise." Bad writing in a nutshell. I am not even against Luke becoming a cynical old man after the destruction of his school, but he should not act like one before it happened.
Go T and TLJ had some great visuals and some shocking scenes, but it is clear that neither product was trying to make any sense in the context of the universe they supposedly took place in.
Luke in RotJ: I refuse to kill a man who has been a ready and willing second in command to an evil, militaristic and genocidal empire for the past 20 years, because I feel there's still good in him.
Luke in TLJ: That easily malleable teenage boy has got some bad vibes in him, better kill him in his fucking sleep.
Mhmm.
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TLJ is miles better than the last season of GOT. There is no question about it.
Luke Skywalker had some of the best scenes in TLJ and some of the best characterization.
1) You should really go to the TLJ thread with this and 2) that's not what happened. As he states in the movie itself, he instinctively activated his lightsaber, but he was never going to use it. You are taking Kylo Ren's version at face value.
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One of the big flaws of the ST, it leaves people to make up their own explanations since it won't provide any. Or the next movie makes vague noise contradicting the last one. Or when it isn't tossed out to the EU to handle, like a recently announced comic dealing with what happened to Ben after he found Luke wanting to murder him in his sleep and the other students at Luke's school.
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Well, this is your opinion. LTJ failed in so many similar ways to Go T, though at least the director of TLJ at least tried to make a good story. It also helps that there is still one film left to fix the worst of the mess, but I doubt it will salvage the trilogy.
And they cut out one of the best, when he learned about Han's death.
Both Go T and SW worked so well because they had committed who often improved the scripts they were given. Sadly at a point this is simply no longer enough to save the film.
Edited by Zarastro on Oct 31st 2019 at 1:18:25 PM

I recall there being plans for several spinoffs. Are any of the others still being produced?