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Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#201: Jun 30th 2011 at 3:51:52 PM

Hey, who knows? It could even be a matter of personal, aesthetic opinion on the part of the Cybertronian in question.

What's precedent ever done for us?
Geostomp In the name of the POWER, I will punish you! from Arkansas, USA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#202: Jun 30th 2011 at 3:58:53 PM

If they're robots, why do they even have males? Male is not the default gender anymore than female is. It's just that male secondary sex characteristics are much less noticeable than their female counterparts.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#203: Jun 30th 2011 at 4:00:10 PM

[up]True but the T Fs we usually see are soldiers and soldiers tend to be males.

Geostomp In the name of the POWER, I will punish you! from Arkansas, USA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#204: Jun 30th 2011 at 4:09:23 PM

Not when they're inherently genderless entities. Male or female features are not strictly necessary for fighting.

"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" Futurama, Godfellas
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#205: Jun 30th 2011 at 4:22:14 PM

[up]But males are commonly seen as having a larger body and muscles. Plus deeper voices are more intimidating.

Soldiers would want these features.

They're not technically males but we interpret them as such.

edited 30th Jun '11 4:22:49 PM by Kostya

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#206: Jun 30th 2011 at 4:31:09 PM

Tell that to Strika.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#207: Jun 30th 2011 at 6:03:34 PM

Its probably more an aesthetics thing in universe. Either that, or their default models happen to coincide with human genders without actually being separate genders. Some robots are just built/born curvy and with higher pitched voices. Possibly to denote them as specialized soldiers built for slightly different functions that the standard Cybertronian.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#208: Jul 3rd 2011 at 3:23:10 PM

just learned Shockwave is going to come in the first episode of season 2

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#209: Jul 3rd 2011 at 3:41:08 PM

Another scary, badass Decepticon? Cool.

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LordIronHat Watch your head... from Up hill, both ways Since: Feb, 2011
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#210: Jul 3rd 2011 at 6:20:02 PM

Hell yes, freaking love Shockwave.cool

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vanthebaron Mystical Monkey Master from Carlyle, Il Since: Sep, 2010
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#211: Jul 3rd 2011 at 9:54:19 PM

That's "mothafuckin" shockwave to you

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blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#212: Jul 3rd 2011 at 10:53:13 PM

I hope it's bad-ass Shockwave from the Comics, not servile Shockwave from the cartoon.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#213: Jul 4th 2011 at 5:08:02 AM

[up] I bet they'll follow Derrick J. Wyatt and introduce him by killing off a beloved Autobot.

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MegaRock35 from The Multiverse Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Desperate
#214: Jul 4th 2011 at 1:30:15 PM

Shockwave? Seems logical.

I hope Prime Shockwave is as badass as Animated Shockwave. He was one of my favorite 'Cons.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#215: Jul 4th 2011 at 6:12:52 PM

Prime has certainly done very well with the bad guys, Shockwave was pretty interesting in Animated and was pretty badass in DOTM, so I'm waiting to see what Prime can do with the character. Introducing a minion who is a bruiser on par with Breakdown, has the ruthlessness of Megatron and the ambition of Starscream can only be interesting.

As for Transformer gender, I've always looked at it being similar to how the film series explained that they took on human characteristics that seemed appropriate, Jazz talks as being the "hip" one because that is the closest analogue to his alien personality. "Gender" may not be subject to such personal choices but it's likely the concepts of both male and female are just the closest human equivalent. I'm not aware of any Transformers incarnation that establishes Transformer reproduction as requiring genders, so even that may just be unexplained class differences not too far different from Bumblebee being a scout class. As for the ratio of "male" to "female," that's largely Most Writers Are Male.

C0mraid from Here and there Since: Aug, 2010
#216: Jul 4th 2011 at 7:40:21 PM

[up] No it's most Transformer figure buyers are boys.

My problem with female transformers is this.. Is G1 Bumblebee paticularly male? Apart from the occasional example, like G1 cartoon Ironhide, I've never thought of any Transformer as male except in the presence of an obviously female one. It's not so much the voice actors but the female looking designs (and colour schemes) that bother me. Also any relationships between "male" and "female" Transformers. If there a 60 "male" transformers to 2 "female" transformers and no reproductive value to it thentheres no way it should work out like that. Actualy any robot sexuality disturbs me, and gender just sets peoples minds towards it.

I've seen a few episodes of this show and I think it's quite good.

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vanthebaron Mystical Monkey Master from Carlyle, Il Since: Sep, 2010
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#217: Jul 5th 2011 at 12:48:33 AM

Its to get female demographic. Except our "Token Female" Autobot just happens to have barings the size of Megatons ego. Seriously shes Autobot Laura Croft.

edited 5th Jul '11 12:49:54 AM by vanthebaron

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#218: Jul 5th 2011 at 3:56:49 PM

ok just learned about the season finale in spoiler tags

Starscream is defecting to the autobots. Who thinks this will last

vanthebaron Mystical Monkey Master from Carlyle, Il Since: Sep, 2010
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vanthebaron Mystical Monkey Master from Carlyle, Il Since: Sep, 2010
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#221: Jul 5th 2011 at 5:46:41 PM

Seriously...we know he's only doing it to get access to the autobot base

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#222: Jul 5th 2011 at 6:57:10 PM

[up]yeah I pretty much figured that out my self its kind of clear but the episode is not out yet so maybe he will suprise us

SpaceJawa UTINNI! from Right Here Since: Jan, 2001
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#223: Jul 5th 2011 at 7:11:29 PM

[up][up] I'm not quite so sure it's that simple. This is Starscream, after all. odds are that even if it wasn't assigned that way, he'll try to twist it into a plot to help kill off Megatron again, perhaps in a way that he hopes destroys the Autobots at the same time, leaving him in charge of the Decepticons again - especially if someone like Soundwave knows he's suppose to be a double agent and he's responsible for offing the Autobots - and ridding him of the biggest pain in his butt when he was in charge last time aside from Megatron being Not Quite Dead.

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if it's a more than one episode thing, perhaps building up to the season finale when he finally reveals his true colors.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#224: Jul 6th 2011 at 1:15:26 AM

(I doubt the logic of spoiling an official episode synopsis, but since everyone else is) I sincerely doubt the Autobots will come to trust him with the base locations within even a two-parter episode. It is likely a Xanatos Gambit to either undermine Megatron or eliminate the Autobots, but it may be a more genuine Enemy Mine or semi-sincere Heel–Face Turn.

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#225: Jul 6th 2011 at 5:37:59 AM

Gotta say, the Autobots are going to need a really good reason to trust (or at least tolerate) him. I mean, this is the guy who murdered Cliffjumper and tortured Fowler.

What's precedent ever done for us?

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