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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
yarrunmace Ghosts' Poet from Seine Since: Jun, 2009
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#4427: Feb 17th 2012 at 2:10:08 PM

Dada smells of nothing, nothing nothing.

you'll then have a grave in the clouds where you won't lie too cramped
OhnoaBear I'm back, baby. from Exiting, pursued by a... Since: Jan, 2011
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#4428: Feb 17th 2012 at 2:12:50 PM

Dada is the persistently backfiring attempt of a man who hated surrealists to mock them.

"The marvel is not that the Bear posts well, but that the Bear posts at all."
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
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OhnoaBear I'm back, baby. from Exiting, pursued by a... Since: Jan, 2011
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TheDeadMansLife Lover of masks. Since: Nov, 2009
Lover of masks.
#4433: Feb 17th 2012 at 3:05:23 PM

Dada isn't.

Please.
OhnoaBear I'm back, baby. from Exiting, pursued by a... Since: Jan, 2011
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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#4437: Feb 17th 2012 at 3:09:41 PM

Dada sucks. Oh, sorry, I said something that made sense.

OhnoaBear I'm back, baby. from Exiting, pursued by a... Since: Jan, 2011
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#4438: Feb 17th 2012 at 3:12:33 PM

Dada forgives.

And, hey, the first thing I said was that also, and (to the best of my knowledge) true!

"The marvel is not that the Bear posts well, but that the Bear posts at all."
alethiophile Shadowed Philosopher from Ëa Since: Nov, 2009
Shadowed Philosopher
#4439: Feb 17th 2012 at 3:13:49 PM

Wannabe Dadaists should stop clogging up this thread. tongue

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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#4440: Feb 17th 2012 at 3:14:10 PM

Dada adad blaga blaga, blue fish.

Yuanchosaan antic disposition from Australia Since: Jan, 2010
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#4441: Feb 17th 2012 at 5:21:46 PM

@Oh no: I thought Dada predated the Surrealist movement? As much as a vaguely defined not-movement of not-art can predate another movement.

"Doctor Who means never having to say you're kidding." - Bocaj
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#4442: Feb 17th 2012 at 6:30:12 PM

I question the idea that such a thing as anti art can even exist. Once you create something that has a message, it's art.

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#4443: Feb 17th 2012 at 6:41:29 PM

[up][up] I am hardly an art historian, I was just parroting some fact I read somewhere. Possibly here on the Dada or Poe's Law page.

edited 17th Feb '12 6:42:27 PM by OhnoaBear

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4444: Feb 17th 2012 at 6:59:11 PM

[up][up]Ahh, but what about things that don't have messages?

OhnoaBear I'm back, baby. from Exiting, pursued by a... Since: Jan, 2011
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#4445: Feb 17th 2012 at 7:02:44 PM

If you calling something without a message art you are giving it a message in reference to its lack of message.

"The marvel is not that the Bear posts well, but that the Bear posts at all."
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4446: Feb 17th 2012 at 7:06:54 PM

If we accept that, then it's fairly easy to define anti-art as a subset of art that has that message.

mrsaturn Youkai Serious Since: Jan, 2001
Youkai Serious
#4447: Feb 18th 2012 at 1:00:28 AM

DADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADDADADADADADDADADADDADADADDADADA

They assed first. I am only retaliating in an ass way. -The Dead Man's Life
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#4448: Feb 18th 2012 at 7:21:14 AM

[up][up]Ahh, but what about things that don't have messages?

Even 'You're awful and don't deserve art' is a message! Unless you're talking about things that were made without any particular message in mind. That can still be art, but right now I'm just mocking Dada because we spent so long talking about it in an art history class I had to take.

edited 18th Feb '12 7:22:38 AM by Arha

yarrunmace Ghosts' Poet from Seine Since: Jun, 2009
Ghosts' Poet
#4449: Feb 18th 2012 at 9:00:30 PM

Dada is Dada.

There's really no getting around that.

you'll then have a grave in the clouds where you won't lie too cramped
JethroQWalrustitty Since: Jan, 2001
#4450: Feb 18th 2012 at 9:15:07 PM

Dada is first and foremost an expression of distaste for mankind and its ideals during one of the most wasteful and pointless wars in human history.

And then people nearly a removed nearly a century in time, and a millenium in context, re-appropropriate it to be just stringing Inherently Funny Words together.

In terms of art and entertainment, I prescribe in many ways to the polar counterpart to Dada, that is Brechtian minimalism. But I recognize the importance of Dada in the history of art, and the strong despair that inspired it.


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