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No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...

I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?


Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#45926: Nov 6th 2025 at 6:21:21 PM

Jaghatai Khan was even more of a wild card. So much so that both the Loyalists and the Traitors thought he would turn Traitor too.

But despite his many issues with the Imperium, the Khan still thought Chaos was worse. The Khan knew it was a choice between two evils, and he figured Chaos was the greater evil.

Edited by M84 on Nov 6th 2025 at 10:22:02 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#45927: Nov 6th 2025 at 6:34:32 PM

Yeah that bit of lore I just found out going over his page, and yeah that's totally fair. Imperium sucks but Chaos worse. He also had his men protect civilians in the Siege of Terra, which is based.

But as a Chaos player.......cool

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#45928: Nov 6th 2025 at 6:41:56 PM

Of course, after the Heresy the Khan had as little to do with the Imperium as possible. He ultimately fucked off to the Webway chasing after Drukhari raiders and hasn't been seen since.

Disgusted, but not surprised
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#45929: Nov 6th 2025 at 6:51:50 PM

Which….totally fair.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#45930: Nov 7th 2025 at 3:37:33 PM

So for people here who follow the Dark Angels, what's your take on Luther as a character? And dad?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#45931: Nov 7th 2025 at 4:43:42 PM

Guy once considered nuking his adoptive son out of jealousy long before the actual Heresy.

Overall shitty dad and person though not as bad as Kor Phaeron or Necare. That's a low bar though.

Disgusted, but not surprised
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#45932: Nov 7th 2025 at 4:48:32 PM

To be fair constant upstaging sucks even for non evil or arrogant people! It's human to get tired of it. Just don't go the super genocide route. (Well everyone was on that route at the time, so maybe don't go for the spikier super genocide route?)

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#45933: Nov 7th 2025 at 4:49:49 PM

Fuck Kor Phaeron.

I'm not too deep into Lion lore in the 30K but part of Luther's bitterness was that he was reduced to an equal commander to the Lion despite being his dad.

Which.....I can sort of get, but If I were in his position, I'd be totally happy to work with my kid as comrades in arms.

I dunno, I personally don't think it's that bad a deal that Luther had to see the Lion as an equal.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 7th 2025 at 8:55:11 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#45934: Nov 7th 2025 at 4:53:01 PM

Also the Lion was like, only slightly better than Dorn in social stuff back in 30k. Frankly it's a little too much how much better he got after the power nap. [lol]

Edited by alekos23 on Nov 7th 2025 at 2:53:27 PM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#45935: Nov 7th 2025 at 4:54:52 PM

If only we could all get over our social issues after a power nap. sad

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#45936: Nov 7th 2025 at 5:11:35 PM

Nurgle's plagues are so mighty they blighted the audio for the Warhammer Preview that's going on. As of this post the stream is paused so they can fix it. They've been at it for ten minutes when they said two.

Edited by Silentedge89 on Nov 7th 2025 at 5:11:57 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#45937: Nov 7th 2025 at 5:14:27 PM

Yeah I was watching it as well to see if we'd get more Chaos content.

I zoned out with the Fantasy stuff though.

EDIT: Okay, it's back.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 7th 2025 at 9:15:40 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#45938: Nov 7th 2025 at 5:28:06 PM

WOOOOO!!!!!! MORE IRON WARRIORS STUFF!!!!!!

SIEGE!!!!!!!

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#45939: Nov 7th 2025 at 5:38:05 PM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/download_2025_11_08t093710290.png

Now that is an impressive tank. Just what I'd expect from the I Vth.

Also Stream paralyzed again.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#45940: Nov 7th 2025 at 5:57:33 PM

SPACE MARINE 3!!!!!!!!!!

AND TITUS MET GUILLIMAN!!! I FUCKING CALLED IT!!!

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#45941: Nov 7th 2025 at 6:03:25 PM

Oh, it's just a model announcement and book series.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
KRider Desire Grand Prix Entry from Origin System Since: Feb, 2021
Desire Grand Prix Entry
#45942: Nov 7th 2025 at 6:15:52 PM

At least Titus is a proven draw.

Set! Avenge! "Henshin." Black General! Bujin Sword! Ready, Fight!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#45943: Nov 7th 2025 at 6:21:07 PM

Honestly, I'm hyped to see more Titus, he's got an AWESOME model, and crew, plus all sorts of Necron models that were also revealed.

I really did enjoy that show technical difficulties aside, I'm def painting that new Titus model and crew.

Sadly, Titus only gets to have one black friend on his team at all times.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
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