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No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...

I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?


Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#41776: Mar 13th 2025 at 3:26:53 AM

I actually like that Guilliman is weaker compared to his brothers relatively, since the more interesting parts of his character IMO are his return when he's trying his best to put tape on the broken dam that is the Imperium and reacting to how insane everything has become.

No coincidence that my favorite traitor primarch is Angron, who has taken so many losses and is one of the worst dads.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#41777: Mar 13th 2025 at 3:31:01 AM

The only Primarchs Roboute straight up outmatches would be the Alpharius / Omegon pair. They are after all the Primarchs who specialize in the art of mindgames, not straight combat.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#41778: Mar 13th 2025 at 3:55:20 AM

[up] And Lorgar pre-transformation.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#41779: Mar 13th 2025 at 4:01:53 AM

Yeah, before Lorgar unleashed his psyker potential he was widely considered the weakest Primarch.

After he stopped holding back he became a power-house.

Disgusted, but not surprised
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#41780: Mar 13th 2025 at 4:07:28 AM

You know, speaking of Lorgar, I find it quite poignant that the ONLY primarch who genuinely liked Angron was also the same one that damned him to slavery to Khorne for eternity by turning him into a Daemon Prince, in part because Angron saved his life at one point, and Lorgar thought he was doing Angron a favor.

Just like the Emperor depending on how one views his teleportation of Angron away from his gladiators.

Hell, the worst things that happened to Angron, the nails and becoming a Daemon Prince was because he saved someone's life, IE sparing his adoptive father against the wishes of the slavers.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#41781: Mar 13th 2025 at 4:26:20 AM

And the World Eaters never forgave Lorgar or the Word Bearers for this.

Disgusted, but not surprised
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#41782: Mar 13th 2025 at 4:42:11 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/what_did_erebus_do_v0_gxpa9tfsy3ud1.webp

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#41783: Mar 13th 2025 at 6:02:10 AM

Erebus is the one guy everyone in 40k has reason to hit.

Disgusted, but not surprised
dArtagnanMusic Since: Oct, 2022
#41784: Mar 13th 2025 at 11:10:50 AM

Erebus is the only Space Marine worthy of respect. He is evil, knows it, owns it, and had the balls and determination to look at a not-god that could make armies kneel with just a thought and said "i'm gonna ruin this man's whole career".
And then he did.
Oh, also Space Marine 3 is officialy in developpment. More than twenty years and xenos game don't get a single sequel, but we can greenlight a space marine sequel within a year of their previosu game releasing.
Please GW, tell us again how people who root for the Imperium are just idiots who "don't get the satire" and it's not your fault if Nazis like the Imperium.

Edited by dArtagnanMusic on Mar 13th 2025 at 12:43:00 PM

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#41785: Mar 13th 2025 at 11:32:46 AM

[up] Space Marine 2 did sell well, so I can understand why. But I still wish they at least tried more xenos games.

Mara999 International Man of Mystery from Grim Up North Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
International Man of Mystery
#41786: Mar 13th 2025 at 12:10:57 PM

This time on Heresy Thrursday we get to see Mechanicum Knights for Legions Imperialis. I wonder if these are big enough to be converted into alternate Siege Automata or guard-bots in 28mm?

Edited by Mara999 on Mar 13th 2025 at 9:11:18 PM

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#41787: Mar 13th 2025 at 1:08:41 PM

the little Magos/Skitaari-like head is pretty funny.

Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#41788: Mar 13th 2025 at 2:46:05 PM

Didn't know dArtagnanMusic was Erebus' sock puppet account but hey, new information learned every day lol

(I'm just kidding btw)

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#41789: Mar 13th 2025 at 2:46:42 PM

[up][up][up][up]

Imagine if we got a Necron Space Marine team up.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 13th 2025 at 5:47:06 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#41790: Mar 13th 2025 at 2:54:33 PM

I wonder if these are big enough to be converted into alternate Siege Automata or guard-bots in 28mm?

Here's a size comparison between a Titanicus Knight and a Space Marine, and the Titanicus range does double duty in LI.

Mara999 International Man of Mystery from Grim Up North Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
International Man of Mystery
#41791: Mar 13th 2025 at 2:59:47 PM

[up]Nice! Size-comparisons is what most of my research consists of when I might buy something. If they're roughly the size of a Primaris, then I'd use them to make security-bots like ED-209.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#41792: Mar 13th 2025 at 4:34:53 PM

Someone posted this excerpt on Lucius from the new codex:

"Lucius does not know how many times he has died. Each time he returns wears away at his fragile sanity, but more so at his pride. However painful his return is to the individual he subsumes, the swordsman cannot escape the knowledge that it was a foe he did not kill with his own skill. Lucius is forever denied the chance to prove his superiority against them, and the thought enrages him."

Truly a blessing from the savorer of sensations. [lol]

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#41793: Mar 13th 2025 at 4:46:58 PM

[up] Has it ever mentioned what happens if he's killed by someone who doesn't take satisfaction in his death? Like a tyranid or necron soldier?

KRider Desire Grand Prix Entry from Origin System Since: Feb, 2021
Desire Grand Prix Entry
#41794: Mar 13th 2025 at 4:47:22 PM

[up][up]He's still bummed that a factory worker "killed" him w/ a landmine. Say what you will about Kharn but at least he didn't stumble around landmines.

Edited by KRider on Mar 13th 2025 at 7:48:13 PM

Set! Avenge! "Henshin." Black General! Bujin Sword! Ready, Fight!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#41795: Mar 13th 2025 at 4:55:32 PM

[up][up] Slaanesh cheats. Like the rules don't really matter as long as Slaanesh is entertained by her toy.

So a mindless Necron could kill him, and suddenly the Necron would become Lucius.

In fact, I bet she wants us to keep thinking up ways to loophole Lucius to death so we'd feel disappointment when it inevitably doesn't work.

[up] So who the fuck told that one mine maker "Good job, your mine killed Lucius. Emperor bless you."? [lol]

Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 13th 2025 at 7:56:42 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Silentedge89 Since: Apr, 2012
#41796: Mar 13th 2025 at 4:57:19 PM

[up][up][up] That would have been a perma-death before Nykona Sharrowkyn iced him. Now it doesn't matter. Lucius is truly immortal.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#41797: Mar 13th 2025 at 4:59:13 PM

Now I know that the real rule is that as long as Slaanesh is entertained by her favorite chew toy, Lucius will keep coming back because it hurts his pride that much, but honestly, I can see a scenario where Kharn kills Lucius without even realizing it in a berserker rage, and Slaanesh can't turn Kharn to Lucius because Khorne is still stronger than her, and protects his champion.

So Slaanesh just turns a complete rando into Lucius.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 13th 2025 at 8:01:41 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
burninganimefan357 Since: Oct, 2012
#41798: Mar 13th 2025 at 5:41:51 PM

"In the millennia since that first horrific resurrection, Lucius has returned from death each time. How, when and where it happens never seems to occur the same way twice. He has emerged from within the flesh of a six-armed alien mercenary aboard a voidship light years from his place of death. He has pushed his way out of a gory pit of putrefying servitor offcuts on a forge world. He once surfaced from the living metal of a Cryptek centuries after his death at the hands of the Necron's mindless automata."

Even if someone takes no pride in his death, Slaanesh will just cheat and just bring back Lucius one way or the other.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#41799: Mar 13th 2025 at 5:47:41 PM

The only way he could stay dead is if he is somehow beyond Slaanesh’s reach.

I imagine if something sufficiently powerful enough was the one to kill him that would keep him dead. Like a C’tan Transcendent Shard or the Emperor himself.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#41800: Mar 13th 2025 at 6:04:02 PM

Pull a Planescape toment and.. massive spoilers

Trap him in a Negative Material Plane that prevents him living,everytime Slaanash tries to raise him he's dies!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server

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