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No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...

I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?


Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM

Mara999 International Man of Mystery from Grim Up North Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
International Man of Mystery
#36776: Sep 2nd 2023 at 4:32:04 AM

Among the articles on new additions to Tyranids there is a closer look at the different types of Lictors. A fun detail on the models for Lictors, Neurolictors, and on Death Leaper, is that the raised claws ought to be easily converted into wings. A flying Lictor could be really cool, while such a model gets plenty of use outside of 40K as well. I could use one as a Spawn of Cthulhu in Arkham Horror. grin

Mara999 International Man of Mystery from Grim Up North Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
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#36777: Sep 14th 2023 at 1:30:10 PM

Double-post: Heresy Thursday showcases a a new Traitor Consul. I really like this model, for looking like a badass fighter and a harsh disciplinarian, like a space-Centurion in the space-Legions of Rome. He might also have my new favourite helmet among all Space Marines, because I dig the futuristic pickelhaube. I know the article describes him as a Traitor, but I see no problem with using him as a Loyalist, even in 40K.

Edited by Mara999 on Sep 14th 2023 at 11:30:28 AM

CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#36778: Sep 14th 2023 at 3:13:07 PM

[up] You would probably need to do some file work on the Eye on his belt buckle, at least.

I may grab him and add some spikes and skulls for a contemporary Iron Warrior. He'd fit in pretty well without much modification.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36779: Sep 16th 2023 at 5:34:14 AM

[up][up]Yeah, that is a nice and chunky looking model (it's also always good to see a model with a sheath for the sword they're holding). I do hope they do models in other marks of armour as well.

Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#36780: Sep 18th 2023 at 4:58:14 PM

I have some questions concerning Characters.Warhammer 40000 Tyranids. Right now, it's folderized and subdivided so that each bioform or bioform family (e.g., rippers, gaunts, lictors, carnifexes, tyrannofexes, etc.) has its own distinct section. Trouble is, the vast majority of these sections only have one, two, or three examples each, which a) strikes as very poor ground for making dedicated character sections, and b) looks bad, especially since a lot of these have an image for every creature in the classification and so end with a folder consisting primarily of empty space with a line of pictures down one side. A couple sections are just empty, for that matter.

I'm also skeptical in concept about treating every single troop type as a character group; it's one with organized and distinct groups like Astartes chapters, Craftworlds, or Leagues, with distinct subcultures like the Orks', or even with individual specialists and character choices like Techmarines or Oddboyz, but this really doesn't strike me as useful character groups to divide a page by and the extreme scarcity of examples per entry strikes me as supporting that.

I mean, look. At the end of the day we're a trope wiki first and foremost, right? So the way we organize pages should be intended to facilitate sorting and finding tropes. Creating twenty-seven sections averaging two entries each (technically 1.9, to be precise) doesn't strike me as doing that very well!

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#36781: Sep 18th 2023 at 6:24:23 PM

I'd get rid of the size classification folders and lump them all under "tyranid units" or "Followers". So no Small, Medium, Large, Flying, or Bio-Titans folders.

I'd also get rid of the Warrior Prime entry if no one bothers to put any actual tropes there. The other entries could also stand to have more tropes added.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#36782: Sep 18th 2023 at 6:25:41 PM

[up] That works for me, I think the size classification is janky as well.

Edited by Willbyr on Sep 18th 2023 at 8:25:55 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#36783: Sep 18th 2023 at 6:28:35 PM

If others agree to it, I'll edit the change myself.

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SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36784: Sep 19th 2023 at 12:30:11 PM

Yesterday on Warhammer Community: This year's Warhammer Day miniature is The Ancestors’ Wrath, a female Einhyr Champion with big hammer, shield and stag crest. I really like the model.

Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#36785: Sep 19th 2023 at 11:24:28 PM

I'd get rid of the size classification folders and lump them all under "tyranid units" or "Followers". So no Small, Medium, Large, Flying, or Bio-Titans folders.

I'd also get rid of the Warrior Prime entry if no one bothers to put any actual tropes there.

Well, that's done now.

Mara999 International Man of Mystery from Grim Up North Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
International Man of Mystery
#36786: Sep 20th 2023 at 10:58:56 AM

[up][up]She is pretty cool. With a little bit of tweaking, that model and many others in the range could be converted to be taller and then used to kitbash some Marines.

The 40-year retrospective takes a look at another Votann model and talks about the faction's return from obscurity. The Living Ancestor would need very little converting to become a Dwarf spellcaster in WHFB.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#36787: Sep 20th 2023 at 5:32:13 PM

Someone split the Genestealer Cults off to their own page unilaterally. I don't think the page was giving the "too long" warning before so this seems unnecessary to me. Thoughts?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#36788: Sep 20th 2023 at 6:03:38 PM

It is kind of long, but there should at least be a placeholder link to their page on the Tyranid page. They are still part of the Tyranid Swarm after all.

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Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#36789: Sep 21st 2023 at 12:43:52 AM

I don't really mind? They're treated as their own faction in most regards, and more importantly there's enough material on the new page to make interesting reading. I don't think I'd have split it off of my own initiative, but as it is I don't think that its presence is a problem.

(All the same, this is something that should have been discussed beforehand.)

I'd agree with leaving at least a cursory commentary on the main Tyranids page.

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#36790: Sep 21st 2023 at 9:54:45 AM

[up] I got to thinking about it after posting, and since they're treated as their own faction now, I'm not as against the move as I was originally. That said, I do agree that this should've been discussed.

Mara999 International Man of Mystery from Grim Up North Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
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#36791: Sep 21st 2023 at 11:11:38 AM

Heresy Thursday features this time an awesome Space Wolf Praetor and some custom beakie-helmets for the Legion. I really like the ornate armour on this one. It wouldn't take too much effort to remove all obvious sci-fi bits, to make him merely an exaggerated fantasy knight. The heads also look pretty cool, especially the ones with markings that look like fangs on the helmet.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36792: Sep 21st 2023 at 11:17:59 AM

[up]Yeah, that is a great model. I love the runes. They keep making things difficult to choose which loyalist legion to use. I now can't choose between Dark Angels, Imperial Fists, Emperor's Children loyalists, Salamanders, and now Space Wolves.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36793: Sep 26th 2023 at 12:20:16 PM

Double post for Warhammer Community stuff:

Yesterday there was the reveal of some jumping mech suits for Necromanda's Van Saar (these look quite good but I would have preferred something anti-grav for the House with the most advanced tech) and designers' notes for the new Marines.

Today we have a look at the new Sternguard and Terminator sets (these are a good upgrade of the previous models) and a new style of carry case for skirmish games (interesting style so will have to see how it works).

Mara999 International Man of Mystery from Grim Up North Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
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#36794: Sep 27th 2023 at 11:10:02 AM

This time the 40-year retrospective takes a look at Vashtorr and Chaos' general relation to machinery, such as Daemon Engines. The article mentions his designs for potential godhood, though I wonder what he would be Chaos God of? The corruption of the natural through rampant industry, maybe? That is pretty much what Hashut is in WHFB, while the Horned Rat is close to it in AOS, as he has technologically-minded servant. The current Chaos Gods are all corruptions of positive attributes, so Vashtorr would be the corruption of curiosity and problem-solving, i.e. science. It does get a bit close to Tzeentch being a corruption of scholarly pursuits, but the Science vs. Magic conflict would be quite cool.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#36795: Sep 28th 2023 at 8:00:19 PM

Something that I was considering for the page for the first founding chapters, since so many of them have pics that should be made transparent, is doing with them like I did for the heretic Astartes page and putting the chapter symbols above the Marines, sorta like this:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/newif.png

The only issue is that finding regular Intercessor pics for all of them is likely gonna be really tough, even with mining pics from the Citadel paint app. I don't mind to use pics other than Intercessors, but I wanted to run this change by here to get thoughts on it.

Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#36796: Sep 28th 2023 at 9:14:55 PM

I don't think it'd be an issue if they can't all be Intercessors. I think a little variety in the images is kind of nice, actually. For instance, I like how the White Scars have a biker in their image since that's their specialty.

Edited by Theriocephalus on Sep 28th 2023 at 11:18:59 AM

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#36797: Sep 29th 2023 at 1:29:31 PM

[up] Cool. I'm probably going to have a lot of spare time on my hands next week, so if that does end up being the case, I'll make it a project to come up with potential pics and make an IP thread for the page.

Mara999 International Man of Mystery from Grim Up North Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
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#36798: Oct 2nd 2023 at 11:08:53 AM

It is Orktober again, so Youtube will be full with tabletop-crafters making videos on Ork-y conversions like this one:

I might have the time to make some myself this year. I've set aside some suitable toy-cars and other bits that can work well with Orks. I found an old construction loader I had as kid, almost as big as a Stompa. It's already damaged a bit, so it will look perfect as an Ork battle-wagon of some sort, once I put lots of guns and extra plating on it.

Mara999 International Man of Mystery from Grim Up North Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
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#36799: Oct 2nd 2023 at 1:52:36 PM

Double-post: Some nice new things for Necromunda, like an unregistered Psyker-for-hire, some techno-organic squids, and custom bits for the Ash Wastes. I really like the Mind-locked Wyrd, and along with the custom Van Saar head I'm getting ideas for an Imperial Guardsman regiment. Possibly a band stuck for long on an inhospitable planet, where they are gradually going native, with even their sanctioned psyker becoming more like a tribal shaman for them.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#36800: Oct 2nd 2023 at 6:05:26 PM

Sandbox.Warhammer 40000 Astartes

For a while now, I've been working on a way to combine the pages for the Firstborn and Primaris Marines, both to consolidate their information and to update a lot of the pictures, and I think it's finally ready to pitch for comments.


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