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No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...

I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?


Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#276: Jun 2nd 2010 at 1:03:52 PM

In the tutorials where I go, the Dreadnought starts already broken, as an objective. But to counterbalance it, there are no deffkoptas in the game.

Also, the staff member usually tips the odds a bit in favor of the player, by including the warboss if he chooses the Orks and not otherwise.

That said, I think the terminators are more dangerous against the 5 nobz than against the 20 boyz, with their One-Hit Kill that suppresses one of the nobz' advantages.

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Halos Since: Dec, 1969
#277: Jun 2nd 2010 at 2:19:15 PM

You'd think that but waaay back when I played that game the first time I was called upon to make saves for the Terminators resulted in five 1s...

Possibly the worst roll I've ever made.

But yeah the Terminators are pretty brutal in that battle, of course they tend to be pretty unpleasant most of the time, Land Raider mounted, Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield Termies say hi!

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#278: Jun 2nd 2010 at 3:05:21 PM

Terminators are especially not-good against my Orks, because every fighty mob has a nob with a klob power klaw. (Not the shooty mob, though.)

Halos Since: Dec, 1969
#279: Jun 2nd 2010 at 4:41:46 PM

I just don't like those stupid shields; a 3+ invulnerable save against everything? Even Perils of the Warp? How does a shield protect from daemons clawing out of your brain?

edited 2nd Jun '10 4:43:22 PM by Halos

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#280: Jun 2nd 2010 at 5:08:44 PM

Bethuel: Brother Maynard? I think daemons are trying to get into my head.
Maynard: [hits Bethuel in the face with a storm shield]
Bethuel: Thanks.

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#281: Jun 2nd 2010 at 5:30:30 PM

stupid shields.

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GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#282: Jun 2nd 2010 at 5:33:55 PM

I'd introduce house rules on that. If its clawing through your brain, your shields don't work.

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Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#283: Jun 2nd 2010 at 5:36:47 PM

(orders XV 88 salvo on termies)

edited 2nd Jun '10 5:36:56 PM by Lanceleoghauni

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TheManInBlack Since: Oct, 2009
#284: Jun 2nd 2010 at 6:35:57 PM

Hey I play the Tau army in 40K and well...thought about expanding to a second army due to a combination of REALLY being into the hobby (and having the money to afford it) and not like being mocked by "Serious" Warhammer fans.

I'd like to start collecting Nid's or DA ORKS!!!! and was wondering...how the armies differ from each other playstyle wise. Both are swarm tactic armies that love to get into melee combat (I've played alot against Ork players, not so much the Tyranids) and also where to start off with either army.

DrRockopolis Rock On from Barsoom Since: Sep, 2009
Rock On
#285: Jun 3rd 2010 at 1:01:32 AM

I played a demo game once; Space Marines vs Tyranids, I was the Space Marines (painted as Black Templars, I think). I had two squads, and I think the rep had genestealers and 'gaunts.

  • So, I start with one squad on a building and another on the ground in front of it, they wipe out the 'gaunts when the genestealers come charging in. Can't fire into melee, so I take the silly but probably in character action of jumping off the roof and into melee with genestealers. I somehow managed to win.

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Halos Since: Dec, 1969
#286: Jun 3rd 2010 at 6:11:01 AM

^^I play tyranids, but I don't know a whole lot about Orks.

When it comes to the 'nids the new codex is all about synergy between your units, getting them to support each other as your get across the board and eat things. There are also some hilariously brutal special characters you can use.

Your basic 'nid army would be a couple of big squads of gaunts to use as a meat shield, a brood or two of outflanking genestealers, some anti-armour in the form of Zoanthropes or Hive Guard, but the army is pretty flexible so you can swap it around as you want.

The best initial purchase would probably be the Battleforce as ever, gets you a decent amount of gaunts and genestealers as well as 3 warriors, if you convert one of those into a 'Tyranid Prime' you can make a fairly useable beginners army.

Oh yeah list of things that are good: Trygons, Tervigons, Hive Guard, Zoanthropes, Genestealers, Warriors+Tyranid Prime, Toxic Hormagaunts, Gaunts with Devourers

Useable things: Hive Tyrant, Venomthropes, Mawlocs

Mostly Useless things: Pyrovores, Lictors

edited 3rd Jun '10 6:11:14 AM by Halos

GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#287: Jun 3rd 2010 at 6:47:29 AM

I think the general rule with Genestealers is "Shoot them first."

The term "Great Man" is disturbingly interchangeable with "mass murderer" in history books.
Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#288: Jun 3rd 2010 at 9:07:40 AM

Or if you're an Angry Marine you "RIP AND FUCKING TEAR THOSE BADGER CUNT DICKS APART!"

edited 3rd Jun '10 9:07:46 AM by Barkey

Halos Since: Dec, 1969
#289: Jun 3rd 2010 at 9:15:49 AM

Yup shooting at Genestealers is good, they don't get a great armour save and their Toughness is mediocre.

But then you get the outflanking ones coming in from a short table edge, or the Ymgarl Stealers coming out of area terrain and you realise you haven't positioned your units quite far enough away and then suddenly it's 'oh god get it off my face arrgahwarbleargh' etc.

It's very amusing.

Canondorf Since: Sep, 2009
#290: Jun 3rd 2010 at 7:29:47 PM

Would I be able to mitigate Marine hatred if I play the Angry Marines?

Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#291: Jun 3rd 2010 at 7:38:07 PM

Just so you know, they have a codex. Fanmade, but written in the professional manner of other codexes.

edited 3rd Jun '10 7:39:23 PM by Barkey

Canondorf Since: Sep, 2009
#292: Jun 3rd 2010 at 7:47:59 PM

I am aware of that. And all of you should be, too.

edited 3rd Jun '10 7:48:10 PM by Canondorf

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#293: Jun 3rd 2010 at 8:17:23 PM

Of course it's okay to play the Angry Marines. though the Disco marines and pretty marines are just plain hilarious

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Canondorf Since: Sep, 2009
#294: Jun 3rd 2010 at 8:34:24 PM

They don't have codices, though.

badgertaco Hi, I'm Talos from The Imperial Throne Since: Jun, 2010
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#295: Jun 19th 2010 at 12:47:56 PM

Well the angry marines should...

Because they're angry about not having them, and they might just send a strongly worded letter of how they are distinctly upset with the current stat of affairs....

And that they're running out of things to kill... which shouldnt happen in a universe so GRIMDARK

edited 19th Jun '10 12:49:09 PM by badgertaco

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Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#296: Jun 19th 2010 at 10:50:16 PM

They don't need a GW codice, the fanmade one is of the same quality. :P

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#297: Jun 20th 2010 at 3:26:54 AM

However, they need it ported to the current edition.

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#298: Jun 22nd 2010 at 5:19:36 PM

What we need is a Reasonable Marines codex.

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Bill "Looking contemplative" from To your left, eventually Since: Jul, 2009
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#299: Jun 22nd 2010 at 8:11:10 PM

Anyone see the daily blog update on the GW website? The store in Hannover Germany 500+ tank battle, check it out.

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#300: Jun 22nd 2010 at 8:14:28 PM

Hooooleeeee crap...that's a feth of a lot of firepower.


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