(Mod edit to add a courtesy link to El Goonish Shive.)
Yay! Its back again! I stagger my reading of it to Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday cause there aren't enough good webcomics on those days, so I am not the best person to lead a real time discussion, but it really needs a thread. So in Monday's we see the mysterious return of the dark figure. (linky)
Who is starting to sound really, really desperate.
Also, is it just the art upgrade, or does Ellen's green ray seem more... jeeze, what is a same word to use? Powerful? More powerful then usual?
Edited by wingedcatgirl on Oct 10th 2025 at 12:46:21 PM
I had a comment and thought better of it. Instead, here’s Dan’s commentary on the Facebook page, which “explains” Diane’s outfit.
Edited by HeraldAlberich on May 23rd 2024 at 7:54:53 AM
Does the fact that Nanase's guardian form is weaker than Not-Tengu count as Good Is Impotent? As I wrote on Fridge.El Goonish Shive:
Malady replied in a PM to me (quoted with permission):
But I don't think the excess ambient energy made Not-Tengu's combat spell stronger, it only allowed him to use it longer; thus anything he can do in Moperville, he can do anywhere as long as it doesn't deplete his magic. Thus the spell is either useless or just as formidable outside Moperville, and his reputation
suggests that he is a dangerous fighter even outside Moperville.
https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2013-07-16
The dam made his power grow and grow and grow...
And while Nanase can't hurt him, that doesn't mean he can hurt her, as long as she doesn't engage in hand-to-hand. He doesn't have any ranged options?
Edited by Malady on May 23rd 2024 at 8:21:16 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Transformation spells can be customized at need, to some extent.
Given what we later learn about Elliot's transformation: https://www.egscomics.com/comic/balance-022
It might not be that "Good Is Impotent" so much that "Guardian Forms are much harder to train compared to regular spells like "Tengu" Transformation.
Not-Tengu traded power efficiency for more power "now". Possibly Elliot could do that too, after enough use of the spell.
Edited by Malady on May 23rd 2024 at 8:57:05 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Edited by ArvidSamuelsson on May 23rd 2024 at 10:02:27 AM
- "Are you suggesting that Not-Tengu's spell is inefficient?"
I'm saying that the speed boost he needed to grab an "angel" made him run out of energy faster than if he didn't?
And he was running on ambient magic, since he lost his flight and power glow, while the "angels" could still fly in https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2013-08-06
...
https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2013-08-12
He didn't know he was augmenting himself with ambient energy.
Edited by Malady on May 23rd 2024 at 10:10:04 AM
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- Hmm. So, to compare powers between Not-Tengu and Angel Nanase:
Both can fly, Nanase can fly faster unless Not-Tengu boosts himself. Whether angel form can fly even faster but didn't because they were trying to distract and delay Not-Tengu, is unknown.
Not-Tengu probably has more physical strength, and angel form defenses aren't good enough to make hand-to-hand with Not-Tengu a good idea.
Not-Tengu's physical durability is enough to survive a drop that lasted long enough for him to yell Big "WHAT?!"-s at least
three
times, and still try to get up.
Good Is Impotent? I wouldn't say that. Just that it's more Villains Act, Heroes React, where Attack is Act and Defense / Flee is React?
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Also note that Nanase says that she and Ellen could maybe take Not-Tengu in a fight, but between his longer reach and horns they'd have a tough time safely landing blows. It's not just "bigger number = stronger", he had a physical advantage.
regulation pigeonEdited by ArvidSamuelsson on May 23rd 2024 at 1:26:18 AM
Pandora left Hope with an extremely jank combo deck. No wonder she keeps losing. Also, it looks like True Name matters.
regulation pigeonYeah but bowling shoes are patterned after, like, Oxford-type dress shoes, so holding up a sneaker will only get you so far.
So Pandora had some preparations set for Hope, Hope wishes she could have had more, but at least some happened.
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Physics!
Creed of the Happy Pessimist:Always expect the worst. Then, when it happens, it was only what you expected. All else is a happy surprise.Dan uses plot hook! It's super effective!
Creed of the Happy Pessimist:Always expect the worst. Then, when it happens, it was only what you expected. All else is a happy surprise.

Susan's deck definitely seems like something you bring to your local game shop to have fun. It can probably take your opponent off guard especially if they are playing with a rogue deck but if they are good then by game two they will probably be able to get a good set of counters from their side board and win the match.
Edited by Freshwater on May 22nd 2024 at 11:21:39 AM