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Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 12th 2025 at 5:03:16 PM
Why not? That's what I'd do, if I was a star.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.![]()
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...I'd ask if Daleks would seriously be dumb enough to decide to blow up their own sun, but I think we all know the answer to that.
edited 29th Jan '14 2:54:02 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.But they're declaring war on all intelligent life so shouldn't they hate each other too?
Are they giant flaming daleks or something?
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI think that after the Daleks develop Space Travel that Skaro basically becomes a giant tourist trap. I mean, it has no actual resources or strategic value. I suppose once they get Time Travel it becomes a bit more important because that historical value can be turned against them, but otherwise, it's mostly just a really big monument to Dalek supremacy.
edited 29th Jan '14 3:02:53 PM by unnoun
@Boc
They declared war because the most efficient way to travel in a universe where faster than light travel was either impossible, or highly impractical, was moving your entire solar system with a star engine (Which are actually logistically viable things and hold up even in modern understandings of physics) and of course. The stars didn't like being moved, and tried to avoid this eventuality of opportunistic thinking life.
Whether stars were intelligent was left ambiguous; it was hinted that they run on some sort of 1937 version of quantum mechanics; where stars do things most likely to allow stars to exist.
Fundamentally stars exist, therefore, stars are good at existing. Don't think you can tell the driving process of then universe as it is understood what it should do.
edited 29th Jan '14 3:05:31 PM by Whowho
Hasn't that model been thoroughly debunked?
In this context, I'm pretty sure that 'where are we going?' is not even a valid question, because it seems to assume an objective frame of reference. We are moving relative to other things and they are moving relative to us and each other, but there is no end-goal, any more than there is an end-goal to biological evolution.
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Something to keep in mind Boc that the setting of The Starmaker assumes that the universe was created by purposed design. If stars existing untampered is required for the universe to clock on as originally planned, measures must be taken in the design to ensure this.
In fact the oddness of how stars work was one of the things that clued the protagonists in that the universe was designed. Though it was nice to see the 1937 Englishman's face when he found out it wasn't made by that entity named God.
edited 29th Jan '14 3:10:54 PM by Whowho
Strata.
It was Kind of a spoof on Ringworld. Controversially, I actually like it better than Ringworld.
edited 29th Jan '14 3:35:39 PM by Bocaj
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Like those wossnames, jupiters or yavins.
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