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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#72401: Jan 11th 2014 at 8:38:48 PM

...I don't get it. On a scale of one to Ten (ba dum tish) how ashamed of myself should I be for not getting it?

"We're home, Chewie."
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#72402: Jan 11th 2014 at 8:40:34 PM

Out of ten? Eleven.

I don't get it either.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#72403: Jan 11th 2014 at 8:41:21 PM

Depends.

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maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
Mad Scientist Wannabe
#72404: Jan 11th 2014 at 9:01:58 PM

I give it a Denouddaden

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
Fusionman Since: Nov, 2009
#72406: Jan 12th 2014 at 12:53:55 AM

Wack'd: 1

Linkara: 4

Spoony: 6

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#72407: Jan 12th 2014 at 12:58:07 AM

I have no idea who those other people are, but Wack'd probably has a few more points than that.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#72408: Jan 12th 2014 at 1:00:46 AM

Why are you ranking Wack'd against Web Original vloggers?

Fresh-eyed movie blog
Fusionman Since: Nov, 2009
#72409: Jan 12th 2014 at 1:15:00 AM

Thunderdome jokes.

They've done a contest of Thunderdome jokes, had to give Wack'd a point there. That was damn brilliant.

Laura from Shintolin Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
#72410: Jan 12th 2014 at 1:18:20 AM

River is basically the RTD-arced character, except that by knowing the Doctor she becomes more independent and gains a better, fuller life.

edited 12th Jan '14 1:20:13 AM by Laura

He's the Doctor. He could be anywhere in time and space.
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#72411: Jan 12th 2014 at 2:04:03 AM

Is it that important I be ranked? I mean, come on guys, can't we just get beyond Thunderdome jokes?

edited 12th Jan '14 2:04:20 AM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#72412: Jan 12th 2014 at 2:17:06 AM

River is actually a worthwhile deconstruction of the tropes people moan about Moff using on women.

She's uses sexuality in a power sort of way, but her stories make it clear that for portions of their relationship this is actually the only power she has over The Doctor, and she doesn't actually have much confidence in them 'hiding the damage.'

She has 'psychopath' tendencies, but they're shown that despite being captivating, are actually less than glamorous; they deprived her of a childhood and a meaningful life on Earth, and she's acknowledged a few times that it worries her that these rub off on The Doctor (Notably in Impossible Astronaut and Angels Take Manhattan) and actually refuses to travel with her husband for this reason. She is a brilliantly subtle Stepford Smiler and people don't give her credit for it because her mask is so good at holding attention.

Laura from Shintolin Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
#72413: Jan 12th 2014 at 2:27:42 AM

She acts a lot, yeah. Just a bit more flamboyantly than Clara.

He's the Doctor. He could be anywhere in time and space.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#72414: Jan 12th 2014 at 2:33:11 AM

Considering how much love the Moff has for deconstructing characters it was jarring when series 7b left it out it in favour of being easy to access, hopefully Series 8 Moff will stop second guessing himself and overthinking and just write what he's good at and we'll see what it really means to be Clara 'Oswin' Oswald.

Nicknacks Ding-ding! Going down... from Land Down Under Since: Oct, 2010
Ding-ding! Going down...
#72415: Jan 12th 2014 at 2:37:43 AM

Considering how much love the Moff has for deconstructing characters it was jarring when series 7b left it out it in favour of being easy to access

Are you saying that "deconstructions" lack in terms of accessibility? I don't believe that's true.

River is basically the RTD-arced character, except that by knowing the Doctor she becomes more independent and gains a better, fuller life.

But she kills herself to save him.

edited 12th Jan '14 2:40:21 AM by Nicknacks

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PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#72416: Jan 12th 2014 at 2:43:27 AM

No, she kills herself to save him and 4000 other people.

Nicknacks Ding-ding! Going down... from Land Down Under Since: Oct, 2010
Ding-ding! Going down...
#72417: Jan 12th 2014 at 2:46:23 AM

Not true, she kills herself so he won't kill himself.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#72418: Jan 12th 2014 at 3:43:23 AM

Someone had to kill themselves. Better her than him. Especially since, at this stage, if he killed himself now then all the times they had will never have happened retroactively. Wibbly wobbly.

...Why does this sound like a Faction Paradox plot?

...Goddammit, I mean, Faction Paradox is typically devoted to social justice on some level. It doesn't shove women in refrigerators to make men sad, and there's typically some level of ethnic and sexual diversity. I do not want a crossover with filth like Supernatural.

edited 12th Jan '14 4:09:57 AM by unnoun

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#72419: Jan 12th 2014 at 5:03:39 AM

[up][up][up][up] Hay it's the production team which thought that was true, not me.

And I'll admit I could see series 7b being vindicated in time because they can be watched with no foreknowledge for the characters.

edited 12th Jan '14 5:04:23 AM by Whowho

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#72420: Jan 12th 2014 at 5:58:03 AM

This is totally the War Doctor's theme.

Caves of Androzani.

edited 12th Jan '14 6:05:04 AM by unnoun

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#72421: Jan 12th 2014 at 7:05:49 AM

supernatural just disgusts me on so many levels. Nope, we can't have a strong female protagonist, because the fangirls want more incest ho yay, and the writers don't seem to care either. not to mention those two are unsympathetic assholes that make Torchwood look saintly by comparison.

Oboeplum Antiheroic antivillain from somewhere really boring Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Antiheroic antivillain
#72422: Jan 12th 2014 at 7:10:28 AM

SPN's on my list of 'things to watch if they turn up on bbc three'. It looks like it might interest me and I'd like to see what everyone's rambling about on tumblr, but I won't waste time looking for it.

The internet is a waste of time, and that's exactly what's right about it-William Gibson
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#72423: Jan 12th 2014 at 7:18:46 AM

[up][up] Where'd that come from?

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Nicknacks Ding-ding! Going down... from Land Down Under Since: Oct, 2010
Ding-ding! Going down...
#72424: Jan 12th 2014 at 7:19:40 AM

The show hit a sweet groove around its third season, and stayed there for a while, but I'd never call it a good show. It has basically fallen apart now though.

But yeah, there were some great episodes going on for a while, and the fourth/fifth seasons achieved a murderer's row of tv genre writers.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike the show though.

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maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
Mad Scientist Wannabe
#72425: Jan 12th 2014 at 7:29:18 AM

Did Ben Edlund write for it, or was that just for Angel?

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great

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