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OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England Since: Jul, 2010
It's super effective.
#5251: Jun 10th 2011 at 3:22:59 PM

And one could argue that the Doctor would have no reason to put his "Time Lordiness" into Tim (or Daughter of Mine) and just made his presence known to them.

edited 10th Jun '11 3:23:15 PM by OldManHoOh

Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#5252: Jun 10th 2011 at 3:43:34 PM

wild mass guess The Headless Monks are the Silence, decapitated and largely de-powered in order to get around the Doctor's trick wild mass guess

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JOZeldenrust Since: Jul, 2010
#5253: Jun 10th 2011 at 4:14:14 PM

[up]That had occured to me too. Also, some people seem to be under the impression that the Headless Monks are the elite mooks of the Church of England, but they're not: Anglican Marines need to convert to become Headless Monks, so the Headless Monks aren't Anglican.

I'm not quite sure where the Papal Mainframe fits in the whole story. Is it the highest authority within the Church of England, or is it the leader of the Headless Monks? Maybe the Headless Monks are Catholic?

Has anyone noticed anything that could shed some light on the role of the Papal Mainframe?

edited 10th Jun '11 4:14:46 PM by JOZeldenrust

Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#5254: Jun 10th 2011 at 4:19:34 PM

It's possible that the Catholic Church has somehow reunified. (Were the marines ever specified as being Anglican? I don't remember that...) That would still leave the Headless Monks outside the church orders, though.

wild mass guess The Papal Mainframe is Pope Peter II integrated into an immortal supercomputer wild mass guess

edited 10th Jun '11 4:20:15 PM by Noaqiyeum

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OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England Since: Jul, 2010
It's super effective.
#5255: Jun 10th 2011 at 4:36:14 PM

Fat One and Thin One are the only gay thin/fat Anglican married couple (that's why they don't have names), and I think that the episode implies that the organisation itself isn't Church of England, only Those Two Guys.

edited 10th Jun '11 4:36:59 PM by OldManHoOh

SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#5256: Jun 10th 2011 at 4:57:42 PM

The Church of England is a couple of affable homosexuals of obtuse body shape while the Catholic Church maintains hordes of headless monks devoted to no thought and who hunt people down with their laser swords.

Sounds about right.

Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#5257: Jun 10th 2011 at 5:30:23 PM

...again, I'm pretty sure that the Headless Monks exist outside of the normal church's organization.

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spasticgecko Dat Troper from Maryland Since: Oct, 2011
Dat Troper
#5258: Jun 10th 2011 at 6:24:35 PM

I thought the whole group was the Church of England?

faradayangel electrifying from Gallifrey Since: Nov, 2010
electrifying
#5259: Jun 10th 2011 at 8:25:55 PM

The organisation was definitely Catholic(hence why they needed permission from the Papacy to look on the Monks and Anglicans must be quite rare in tthe army if that's one of the reasons they don't need names)

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Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#5260: Jun 10th 2011 at 8:46:49 PM

That's what I thought.

Father Octavian would be a rather odd name for an Anglican priest, too, I think.

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#5262: Jun 10th 2011 at 10:27:42 PM

Thought: we've been told that Silence-induced amnesia "sometimes" causes nausea/vomiting. We saw this effect in Amy and River. Amy was later revealed to be quasi-pregnant by proxy.

Is River pregnant in The Impossible Astronaut? I doubt it due to the fact that every time the Doctor meets her it's always the previous time she met him. But if it were so that drops a ton more tragedy on the kiss scene at the end of Day of the Moon.

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the1ultimate Protector of the Realm from Plato's Cave Since: Jan, 2010
Protector of the Realm
#5263: Jun 11th 2011 at 2:31:17 AM

[up] It's not certain that she always meets the Doctor exactly earlier than she last met him.

I figure it's a general trend. In any case it definitely doesn't apply to her as a baby, so I figure he might see her in order for one or two points as she grows up. But with Adult River, it's impossible to say for certain the order of meeting, since she always seems to know exactly when they are at because of the diary.

By the way, it was the Doctor's diary, which he gave to her when he completed it right? Shouldn't that be soon if they are moving mostly in opposite directions?

edited 11th Jun '11 2:33:39 AM by the1ultimate

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Yej (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
#5264: Jun 11th 2011 at 3:45:43 AM

Only if the Doctor actually dies, which is unlikely. Remember, Matt doesn't open the TARDIS by snapping his fingers.

faradayangel electrifying from Gallifrey Since: Nov, 2010
electrifying
#5265: Jun 11th 2011 at 3:52:56 AM

[up] he has opened it by snapping his fingers though

edited 11th Jun '11 3:53:22 AM by faradayangel

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TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#5266: Jun 11th 2011 at 8:18:14 AM

[up] Sexy must find that awfully rude.

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Yej (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
#5267: Jun 11th 2011 at 8:21:40 AM

[up][up] Well, Ten did it once as a test, but AFAIK Eleven didn't do it at all.

[up]More so than 700 years of pushing to open?

edited 11th Jun '11 8:23:58 AM by Yej

Nicknacks Ding-ding! Going down... from Land Down Under Since: Oct, 2010
Ding-ding! Going down...
#5268: Jun 11th 2011 at 9:14:59 AM

[up]He tried to in The Doctor's Wife, I think. There's definitely one episode this season where he desperately tries to open the TARDIS doors by clicking at them. Probably that one.

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#5270: Jun 11th 2011 at 9:29:01 AM

[up]Seeing as they show up more than three-hundred years after the family tree stops, I'm finding it hard to believe it really matters.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
faradayangel electrifying from Gallifrey Since: Nov, 2010
electrifying
#5271: Jun 11th 2011 at 9:35:27 AM

he definitely opened it via clicking in The Eleventh Hour, and maybe others I can't think of

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eX 94. Grandmaster of Shark Since: Jan, 2001
94. Grandmaster of Shark
#5272: Jun 11th 2011 at 9:49:00 AM

Episodes like the last few makes me wish Doctor Who would do serials again.

Player2isDead Game Over. Try Again? from Four days in the future. Since: Feb, 2010
Game Over. Try Again?
#5273: Jun 11th 2011 at 10:17:16 AM

Eleven snapped open the doors in The Eleventh Hour when we first see the new TARDIS, once in Day of the Moon when they escape from Area 51 in the cloaked TARDIS, and tries to when The House steals the TARDIS in The Doctor's Wife.

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spasticgecko Dat Troper from Maryland Since: Oct, 2011
Dat Troper
#5274: Jun 11th 2011 at 10:52:18 AM

According to the tardis wiki, "A Good Man Goes to War" got chamged from "Demons Run". But when I watched it (online), the title in the opening sequence was "Demons Run".

Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
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#5275: Jun 11th 2011 at 10:58:47 AM

Are you sure? "Demon's Run" does appear prominently on the screen early on as a location identifier.

I guess it is.

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