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This is the thread for discussion of The Order of the Stick plot, characters, etc. We have a separate thread for discussing game rules and mechanics. Excessive rules discussions here may be thumped as off-topic.

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SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#57751: Jun 25th 2021 at 1:08:21 PM

I mean, the sheer fact that Elan ran off without the party while they’re waiting to have a climactic final battle together should clue them in to enchantment.

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#57752: Jun 25th 2021 at 1:16:57 PM

Especially since he said he wouldn't do that and then abruptly changed his mind, after obvious magical interference (the floating lute).

Edited by RaichuKFM on Jun 25th 2021 at 4:17:16 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#57753: Jun 25th 2021 at 2:07:29 PM

I can't remember, can characters in-universe see swirly eyes? I think I remember that being a thing. They can definitely see X eyes.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 25th 2021 at 2:07:59 AM

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#57754: Jun 25th 2021 at 5:48:05 PM

I think Elan did made a joke about it once?

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#57755: Jun 25th 2021 at 10:00:07 PM

I think it's a fourth-wall-y thing where they can see it as long as seeing it wouldn't affect their decisions or actions.

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#57756: Jun 25th 2021 at 10:07:34 PM

It’s how they could tell that lizard-V used Suggestion on the dragon, but Roy could have just said, “I can tell by the way it’s acting,” or some such. The Medium Awareness was just for the joke and the tone, not strictly necessary for the plot.

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#57757: Jun 25th 2021 at 11:27:15 PM

They can see the swirly eyes if they can detect the enchantment with their Sense Motive.

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#57758: Jun 26th 2021 at 4:11:51 AM

I wouldn't be surprised now to see a Scooby-Dooby Doors scenario where (illusory) Elans lure the other party members into different tunnels.

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#57759: Jun 26th 2021 at 8:26:35 AM

I would say the main problem here is that Haley is going off alone in the tunnel, and that's prime 'Picking off the group one-by-one' material right here.

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#57760: Jun 26th 2021 at 11:29:03 AM

Yeah, I was surprised that they insisted on not breaking up the party, then did just that a minute later.

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#57761: Jun 26th 2021 at 1:30:28 PM

I was confused for a while because the change in colour of the walls when the Order bypassed the trap made me think the Order had been transported.

I assume what happened is that originally both the real and fake passages matched the entrance, and then over the many years of nobody figuring out the trap, the real passage was disused, and the entrance and the fake passage experienced equal wear and discolouration.

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#57762: Jun 26th 2021 at 2:57:55 PM

No, the unused part of the fake dungeon is the same color as the used part. The entrance was simply recolored to match the fake dungeon in order to keep up the illusion.

Edited by Druplesnubb on Jun 26th 2021 at 11:58:20 AM

Aetol from France Since: Jan, 2015
#57763: Jun 26th 2021 at 3:36:13 PM

By the way, looking back at this page, is there a mistake with the smear on the floor? In the panel where Roy is peeking into the end of the tunnel, half of the smear is visible on the tunnel side of the portal. But that's the fake tunnel, so the smear shouldn't be there.

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#57765: Jun 26th 2021 at 4:35:51 PM

Also, four panels previous, the smear seen from the inside the line is present outside but not inside, even though it is present on both sides of the line both before and after.

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#57766: Jun 26th 2021 at 6:33:57 PM

[up] That’s because the smear is only present in the “real” tunnel, the one the Order is in that’s connected to the door. In that panel Blackwing is in the “fake” tunnel; the smear isn’t there with him because that tunnel is somewhere else. In the panel where Roy pokes his head into the dead end, the smear shouldn’t be on either side of the line because it’s showing the fake tunnel on both sides, as indicated by Blackwing in the background. To only show it on Blackwing’s side of the line is an art error.

I’m thinking that now that the Order has been drawn away from their planned ambush, Redcloak is going to notice the half-smear and get clued in to the deception that way. It’s a pretty big tell-tale.

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#57767: Jun 26th 2021 at 8:46:29 PM

Yeah, I hadn't thought of it before all this discussion about the smear (which is actually more of a scorch mark). But yeah, what is visibly half of a scorch mark on the floor does seem like a clear giveaway that shenanigans are afoot if Redcloak happens to make the necessary Spot check to notice it.

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#57768: Jun 27th 2021 at 11:38:01 AM

It would be amusing if it's the MitD who notices it and says something.

Edited by Geoduck on Jun 27th 2021 at 11:38:19 AM

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#57769: Jun 28th 2021 at 5:59:55 AM

#1238: See It Coming

Hey, isn't the scary sorcerer who lives by the sea going to send lawyers at Rich for this? Also, this ain't good.

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Jernaugh Since: Dec, 2009
#57770: Jun 28th 2021 at 6:01:08 AM

Edit: [nja] [nja]

New strip.

Ooh, this is a great opener from Serini. Beholders are tough in the best of circumstances, what with that annoying antimagic, and it favors Serini greatly.

Edited by Jernaugh on Jun 28th 2021 at 6:01:24 AM

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#57771: Jun 28th 2021 at 6:02:56 AM

https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1238.html

Well, I guess someone DID call him after all.

Edited by VengeanceNightBatman on Jun 28th 2021 at 8:03:25 AM

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#57772: Jun 28th 2021 at 6:03:19 AM

Aren't Beholders supposed to be huge assholes? tongue Well, Oo TS is all about smashing such stereotypes anyway.

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#57773: Jun 28th 2021 at 6:09:45 AM

[up][up] OMG, is this the one-off character Rich promised that we'd see in the final book? Holy cow, what a callback.

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#57775: Jun 28th 2021 at 6:15:51 AM

Just updated the Brick Joke section on the Main A-C page, which might need its own page at this point.

Edited by VengeanceNightBatman on Jun 28th 2021 at 8:16:38 AM

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