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"... must be sure Monster Hollow still have monsters for clan after.
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You’re right, it doesn’t make sense for a simple sacrifice to be what’s required to access the gate, requiring a willing sacrifice however might lock out most evil groups, especially if there’s no bringing back such a person.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranMaybe a willing sacrifice of the strongest member of your party, or the one you can least afford to lose.
So in the case of Team Evil, either Redcloak (who would want to avoid it since then he can't finish the plan) or Xykon (since he has no desire to die any time soon).
One Strip! One Strip!It's not like it would be that much of an inconvenience for Xykon to die. He's already undead and has a way to come back.
Edit: Plus, losing the strongest member of your team isn't really a problem when you can bring them back to life in ten or twenty minutes. "Hey, I need you to do a solid but don't worry, you'll be back in 5."
Edited by fredhot16 on Apr 7th 2020 at 3:39:13 AM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.If it's a matter of a sacrifice, I could see it simply being a significant willing sacrifice, not one of people. So the evil people won't think to give up a non-selfish sacrifice, but the good guys could make a substantial donation of a magic item, or a photograph of their departed mother, and it counts. In an emergency, they're perfectly willing to give up a valuable possession, but they you're not in a state of attrition where you have to keep killing off your top allies to get in.
I can't imagine the Gate requiring a sacrifice to access, willing or not. It goes back to that point made earlier that either Serini would want to be able to access it herself or she wouldn't want it to be accessible at all, period.
If she put a lock on the door, that means she intends the door to be opened. It means that she wants the door's contents to be found, either by her or by someone else. With that in mind, I see little value in putting a blood sacrifice on the lock. Certainly Serini herself, if she were of a mind to want to be able to access the Gate, wouldn't want to have to kill someone every time she opens the door.
What kind of hideously evil person would create a door that only opens by murder? And no, "willing sacrifice" doesn't fix it. It changes it from "Door only opens by murder" to "Door only opens by murdering good people, specifically".
The Order of the Scribble, I remind y'all, were good guys. They may not have all gotten along with one another very well, but they were heroes in their own right.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 7th 2020 at 2:10:06 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.It can't be in the diary. Short of the ritual that the Dark One taught Redcloak, the Gates can't be moved. Serini's diary is entirely portable.
If you could just pick up a Gate and carry it to wherever you wanted, Xykon wouldn't even have been brought into the Dark One's plan in the first place.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 7th 2020 at 6:05:37 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.My guess for the trick is that Haley's Exact Words are correct. As she said "I'd bet ten gold that they already search every inch of that chasm before they started picking doors at random, and came up empty".
Of course, there's no reason for the gate to be in the chasm. I still think the best use of dramatic irony would be that the gate was near the mountain lookout that O-Chul and Lien were using to spy on the chasm, but my track record suggests that's wrong.
I stand by my guess that the gate is in a chamber that none of the dungeons connect to and you have to map them all in order to figure out where to dig.
ERROR: The current state of the world is unacceptable. Save anyway? YES/NOI don't think the monsters are magically self-replenishing. I think they're just self-replenishing in the way that mundane animals are.
Like, that's why Oona is helping them. To ensure that they don't just kill all the monsters and therefore prevent the caves from replenishing.
Edited by Gilphon on Apr 8th 2020 at 2:01:33 PM

It's not as if they wouldn't be digging up the monsters along with the Gate.