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HandsomeRob High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood! from Holey Brotherhood Lair Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood!
Mar 3rd 2020 at 11:09:37 AM

....

Oh god! It's the leader of the Holey Brotherhood!

One strip! One strip!

Read this post for my theory
Mar 3rd 2020 at 11:21:49 AM

I mean, "Orange voice" is obviously going to be important. The gist of that comment was that someone know one would even expect is going to come back up.

Unless he's just screwing with people for fun, going making the answer to something like this "The mysterious character who appeared on the last page of the book" means he might as well have said nothing.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
Mar 3rd 2020 at 11:37:01 AM

[up][up] I honestly think you might have it. Save your post, if you’re proven right you’re gonna want to claim credit.

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
TotemicHero Not a bug! from the next level
Not a bug!
Mar 3rd 2020 at 11:43:47 AM

I checked out the appearance thread(s), and I noted one important detail that makes that source potentially unreliable: they count pictures of a character as that character appearing, when Burlew could easily not count it that way.

Granted, I doubt there are any characters that would be brought back into contention that were eliminated otherwise, but it is something to keep in mind.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
HandsomeRob High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood! from Holey Brotherhood Lair Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood!
Kostya from Everywhere Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Mar 3rd 2020 at 1:47:35 PM

I feel like this kind of hinges on Rich's definition of "character". Like the Holey Brotherhood priest could be the person but I'm not sure I'd consider him a proper character given he doesn't even have a name.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas
Professional Forum Ninja
Mar 5th 2020 at 9:13:00 AM "We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
Mar 5th 2020 at 9:28:58 AM

Is the comic not loading for anyone else? I'm getting an error message when I try to see it.

Edit: Turns out it's Firefox-related, I can see the comic fine on Chrome.

Edited by Resileafs on Mar 5th 2020 at 12:44:10 PM

TobiasDrake Exposition Dragon from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Mar 5th 2020 at 9:33:09 AM

"Roy needed to go to college to figure out what to do with a sword." [lol] Savage.

The Exposition Dragon for reviews, rants, and general soapboxing.
HandsomeRob High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood! from Holey Brotherhood Lair Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood!
Mar 5th 2020 at 10:14:44 AM

"And when you make that change, everyone who meets you only knows the new version of you. And that's nice.''

She really is preaching to the choir on that one.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Mar 5th 2020 at 11:14:56 AM

Read this post for my theory
Geoduck bivalve from Pacific Northwest Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
bivalve
Mar 5th 2020 at 11:40:23 AM

[up][up]Just to be pedantic.. You really do have to learn how to properly use a sword. You can't just pick one up and start swinging.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
Mar 5th 2020 at 11:46:24 AM

Yeah, it’s one thing to swing a sword and try to hit people with it. It’s another thing to do it WELL.

Oh God! Natural light!
petersohn from Earth, Solar System Relationship Status: Hiding
Mar 5th 2020 at 11:54:11 AM

And now the anvil drops.

"My battery is low and it's getting dark."—Opportunity
Mar 5th 2020 at 11:58:49 AM

Untrue. Stab enough goblins and you'll become a master swordsman with all that exp pouring in.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
Mar 5th 2020 at 12:17:27 PM

Can that give you profiency in sword use, though?

Oh God! Natural light!
Mar 5th 2020 at 12:23:40 PM

It improves physical ability, including Dexterity, and enables the acquisition of feats such as Spellsplinter. Mass murder is the best way to become a great swordsman.

Kostya from Everywhere Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Mar 5th 2020 at 1:26:18 PM

Okay maybe I'm jumping the gun but I'm calling it now after reading this page. wild mass guessBelkar's final death will happen because he's trying to save Minrah from the Snarl. He'll do this because she's the first person to treat him like a true friend in forever.wild mass guess

Edited by Kostya on Mar 5th 2020 at 4:26:37 AM

odafangirl Indeed. from Land of Fun and Pain Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Indeed.
Mar 5th 2020 at 5:44:43 PM

Aaaww, this was very sweet. Belkar's eventual demise grows more tragic every day. I love it

Despite my screen-name, ranting to you about One Piece is not my top priority.
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
Mar 5th 2020 at 6:14:21 PM

Minrah's speech is a case of Some Anvils Need To Be Dropped?

Edited by GAP on Mar 5th 2020 at 9:14:38 AM

"Some say that the stout slime playing the supporting role in the stack is made of steel instead of the standard metal slime stuff."
M84 YOU HATE TIME TRAVEL from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
YOU HATE TIME TRAVEL
Mar 5th 2020 at 6:18:12 PM

Minrah's speech is similar to something I've been saying about redemption on other threads for a while now.

All it means is choosing to be a better person. There's never an excuse to not be better. If you were a shitty person for most of your life, there's no reason you can't decide to not be a shitty person anymore. It's never too late to turn over a new leaf.

That doesn't mean of course that people are obligated to accept this change or to just give you a pass for past shitty behavior. Choosing to not be shitty anymore doesn't mean you get to dodge the consequences for being shitty in the past. And if you really are trying to not be shitty, you'll accept that.

Disgusted, but not surprised
HeraldAlberich from Ohio Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
Mar 5th 2020 at 10:08:10 PM

I’m not sure Minrah would be so sanguine about this “just be better” message if she had any real idea what Old Belkar was like. (Or if she happened to cast Detect Evil on him, even now.) But then, I guess that’s the point.

“I am [preaching it] because I’m a cleric!” is a great line.

Wryte Pretentious Git from A Disney Pocket Dimension Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Pretentious Git
Mar 5th 2020 at 10:17:54 PM

I adore Minrah. <3

I would read a sequel series starring her.

What matters in this life is much more than winning for ourselves. What really matters is helping others win, too. - F. Rogers.
Mar 6th 2020 at 1:01:30 AM

I love how literal she is in her phrasing and trains of thought. So many good lines.

You're not a type! You're a person, a person who does stuff! If you want to be different, do different stuff!

Did everyone I know tell me, "Oh, I don't really think you're the type to be a cleric"? Yes! Did I listen to them? No! I mean, I listened, or else I wouldn't have known they said it. But it didn't stop me!

If anyone tells you that you can't be better if you want to be, you punch them in their stupid judgy face! No, wait, that's an overrreaction.

petersohn from Earth, Solar System Relationship Status: Hiding
Mar 6th 2020 at 11:02:55 AM

I don't think this is the kind of anvil that needs to be dropped, or at least not this way. First, it looks like that this lecture was directed more towards the audience than towards Belkar. I find Belkar quite OOC with his saying "I'm not the trying my best type". He has always been trying his best towards some goal or another. I don't feel that this strip would integrate well with his character development arc. Second, it's not only a topic that's been told over and over, but it's also told in this very comic, in a much better way, in Tarquin's arc (or anywhere along Elan's character development, really).

Compare this to the lecture O-chul gave in his prequel. I also found that anvilicious, but that's much more in the "need to be dropped" territory. Mostly, because that's backed by the whole characterization of O-chul which that is consistent with.

"My battery is low and it's getting dark."—Opportunity
Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Mar 6th 2020 at 11:10:45 AM

Honestly, I wonder if this is meant to be a subversion and tell Belkar that he doesn't need to play along with common morality in order to "be himself", setting up a Face–Heel Turn. It was the first thing that occurred to me when I read the strip.

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 6th 2020 at 2:11:08 PM

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