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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#11826: Jan 2nd 2025 at 5:53:02 AM

Memnarch is fascinated by the idea of Rey losing body parts during the comic. I don't blame them, honestly. She'd be following a solidly established tradition.

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#11828: Jan 5th 2025 at 6:08:07 AM

Yes, let's wrap up that mind control/multiple identity thing. Please.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#11829: Jan 6th 2025 at 8:20:35 PM

There being no lost limb in the ST is a bit weird. Was 3P0 getting a new hand sometime offscreen before the events of the first film supposed to be the new version of that?

TheUnsquished Filthy Casual from A youngun between two oldies Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#11832: Jan 9th 2025 at 5:19:17 AM

There has to be some dialogue that makes the Episode VII [final] scene work.

HA HA HA—No.

BOOXMOWO Since: Mar, 2013
#11833: Jan 9th 2025 at 2:50:13 PM

Anyway, as this is obviously the closing scene just before we get the iris out,

No, no, first we need to check in with our good friends Arashell Sar, Oniho Zaya, and Temiri Blagg.

Edited by BOOXMOWO on Jan 9th 2025 at 2:50:35 AM

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#11835: Jan 12th 2025 at 6:31:52 AM

I really do wonder if Memnarch is going to watch the films after the conclusion of this and give their thoughts on the actual plot vs. what the Irregulars made up. This last scene is supposed to be a Hope Spot.

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Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#11836: Jan 13th 2025 at 7:58:50 AM

I think you mean a "Ray of Hope" Ending.

AFAIR Hope Spot is hope that is explicitly crushed in the next scene. This one is merely forgotten.

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#11839: Jan 14th 2025 at 5:50:56 AM

Porgs as alien geese is a great idea, but doesn't quite fit with the cuteness factor seen later.

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TheUnsquished Filthy Casual from A youngun between two oldies Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Filthy Casual
#11840: Jan 14th 2025 at 7:22:32 AM

Hmm. Having never seen the film, how noisy were those porgs compared to geese?

(Annoyed grunt)
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#11841: Jan 14th 2025 at 7:23:27 AM

Y'know, I don't remember. I don't think they were particularly loud, but those scenes are not fresh in my memory.

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#11843: Jan 16th 2025 at 5:58:38 AM

Y'know, this voices a lot of things I've thought and said about the Star Wars universe. Droid labor should make things like slavery and poverty completely obsolete. The only reason this type of social injustice could persist would be if the ruling powers wanted it to for their own purposes.

Edited by Fighteer on Jan 16th 2025 at 8:59:14 AM

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#11844: Jan 16th 2025 at 7:57:16 PM

I mean, we do see that in Star Wars the places that have slavery still tend to be places ruled by criminals or tyrannical Imperial governors or cruel conquerors. And similarly, poverty seems to exist in so many places because of resources being wrapped up in a relatively small upper class along with power. Say what you will, Star Wars is not failing to depict a world where there are reasons for some with power to prolong these kinds of issues and where others with power are oblivious or complacent. Whether it does that well is another question I don't feel like weighing in on, but it's definitely trying.

Really, it seems that the Galaxy in Star Wars does not see slavery as abhorrently as we do, it's more tolerated. Kinda like Greco-Roman views on it: it's commonly recognized that being a slave is awful, you don't want it to happen to you or those you care about, but the fact that it happens is just accepted. People do not keep slaves because they need to, but because they can. Societies do not practice slavery because slave labor is necessary, they practice them because the ownership of people is accepted.

Don't get me wrong, "Why not have droids doing the jobs that those kids do?" is still a good question, though not an unanswerable one. Maybe droid upkeep costs a bit more than feeding and housing these kids. Maybe the owners are keeping these kids one way or the other and so think they may as well get use out of them. I hope you'll excuse me if I don't dwell on that too much.

Also, I think droids are clearly people and so droid labor is slavery, too (if it's not voluntary and paid). I think the prevalence of droids does explain a part of why slavery of organic people isn't viewed as monstrously as it ought to be. Even if you disagree with me on their personhood—If a character lives in a world where there exist things that are made to serve, that can be bought and sold, changed or even scrapped for parts, which at least superficially resemble people, and everyone sees that as fine? Yeah, they might well have an easier time swallowing a person being used for unpaid labor against their will because of that.

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#11845: Jan 16th 2025 at 8:03:37 PM

While you have valid points, let's be clear that the setting already uses droid labor all over the place. Any ethical or moral qualms people may have over the "ownership" of these beings has been settled a long time ago, even as it is clear that some of them can become fully sapient. (I've seen lore saying that the majority are not: most droids get memory-wiped frequently, preventing them from developing distinct personalities. Whether this is good or bad is a separate question.)

The assertion that a galactic civilization that is accepting of droid ownership would also accept slavery is interesting. I'm not sure the cognitive dissonance necessarily plays out like that. Humans are clearly not droids, so there's no obvious reason to treat them the same. Obviously, some people do treat them the same, or there wouldn't be slavery, but...

...I suppose there's really no point in deeply analyzing the social structure when it's all written for the purpose of telling a space opera story, not for internal consistency or verisimilitude.

I find the implication that some (bad) people keep their droids obedient by inflicting pain to be even more interesting. I guess Jabba is a sadist and he'd gladly hurt droids and humans alike if it gives him some fleeting pleasure.

Edited by Fighteer on Jan 16th 2025 at 11:08:44 AM

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Filthy Casual
#11846: Jan 19th 2025 at 1:57:36 AM

Episode 2572: Growing the Beard

Edited by TheUnsquished on Jan 19th 2025 at 9:57:54 AM

(Annoyed grunt)
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#11847: Jan 19th 2025 at 6:28:47 AM

I continue to wonder if Memnarch will be satisfied or disappointed with the plots of the actual sequel films, especially compared to this wackiness.

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#11848: Jan 20th 2025 at 4:31:08 AM

Luke being Leia with a beard reminds me of that one video where the SW cast play "which SW character are you" quiz and Mark Hamill got Leia Organa, and one commenter jokingly suggests that Hamill should play Leia in Episode 9.

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#11849: Jan 20th 2025 at 5:01:27 AM

Episode 9 is going to be interesting for me, as I’ve not actually ever bother to see it (I’ve also technically never finished Game of Thrones).

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#11850: Jan 20th 2025 at 5:46:27 AM

I suppose I'm looking forward to Episode 9 more in this comic because, for all its faults, I kind of liked what Episode 8 was trying to do, and it's more fun to make fun of things that are universally regarded as terrible. In other words, I don't see how they could do anything but improve the story.

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