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Mod edit to add this convenience link to Girl Genius. Original OP below:


Last thread vanished with the crash...

So, the Weasel Queen interlude is over. Is this Storm King opera another one?

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Feb 19th 2025 at 1:51:41 PM

Wilahlem2 Since: Dec, 1969
#1351: Apr 15th 2009 at 3:43:26 PM

Part of the problem is that Agatha has never fully trusted Gil. Given that he is the son of the man who has been her main antagonist for months now, has violent tendencies, and is something of a control freak you really can’t blame her. She has said herself that she does like him but that she doesn’t trust him. Given this, the castles horrible interpretation of what people say, and Tarvek asking for forgiveness on his death bed we now have the potential for a real love triangle.(at least until Punch and Judy show up. Bringing foster parents back from the dead is a great way to impress a girl)

adam850 Since: Dec, 2009
#1352: Apr 15th 2009 at 8:35:43 PM

Panel two: "You did something in cold blood without hesitation". Sounds like a compliment to a Heterodyne.

Panel four: "...you're clever..." Omitting the rest of the conversation.

Panel six: Shooting everyone and building a doomsday device together must be a Heterodyne's ideal date.

edited 15th Apr '09 8:37:00 PM by adam850

LarryD Incognito Since: Jan, 2001
Incognito
#1353: Apr 15th 2009 at 9:41:20 PM

Yes, from Castle Hetrodyne's unreformed and twisted perspective, it told Agatha the truth. Remember it's fond description of the Skull-Queen of Skral?

Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity. — George S. Patton
adam850 Since: Dec, 2009
#1354: Apr 16th 2009 at 9:13:16 PM

New Comic!

Agatha's pragmatic, I see. And smart enough to know how the castle parses information.

edited 16th Apr '09 9:41:13 PM by adam850

Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#1355: Apr 16th 2009 at 9:32:40 PM

I love the castle asking her to turn down the death ray. It is to giggle.

Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#1356: Apr 16th 2009 at 10:13:28 PM

Sounds like bad news to Agatha, but really, tide's shifting against Zola now. She still thinks the castle can't hear her.

Oh, and we are getting a triangle, aren't we? waii

edited 16th Apr '09 10:14:22 PM by Tangent128

Do you highlight everything looking for secret messages?
Brickman Since: Jan, 2001
#1357: Apr 16th 2009 at 10:14:29 PM

No, it looks like she took it seriously and only considered the possibility that it was misleading her as an afterthought.

Nice to see that our love triangle is now entirely official. And with a fourth who may or may not actually be interested in Gil, we're very nearly entering Love Dodecahedron territory.

Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#1358: Apr 16th 2009 at 10:27:41 PM

Well, she has first-hand experience of how prone the castle is to misrepresenting things in it's own warped way.

adam850 Since: Dec, 2009
#1359: Apr 16th 2009 at 10:37:53 PM

So she takes what the castle says with a grain of salt. That doesn't change the fact that Gil is with Zola, which is suspicious.

Agatha has been downplaying the whole love triangle thing (unsuccessfully, since everyone else wants to talk about it), so do you think that's going to play into how she acts? I.e, making a logical choice over a romantic choice?

edited 16th Apr '09 10:38:59 PM by adam850

Haven Planescape Hijack Since: Jan, 2001
Planescape Hijack
#1360: Apr 16th 2009 at 11:33:38 PM

"Aww, but I already turned it way down!" Hee. "Zownt!" is a fantastic sound effect.

It'll almost certainly be a logical over a romantic choice.

And I still find the idea of a love triangle rather unconvincing or artificial. Agatha's never shown half as much reaction to or interest in Tarvek as she has with Gil, I don't think. Honestly I was hoping them finally getting scenes together again would just be, you know, the two of them and the situation at hand, but a love triangle seems kind of forced.

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Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#1361: Apr 17th 2009 at 12:11:43 AM

Well, at least Agatha herself agrees with you on this point.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
TeChameleon Since: Jan, 2001
#1362: Apr 17th 2009 at 12:37:21 AM

I'm with Haven on this one- personally, I rather suspect that Agatha's at least slightly more motivated by concern than by jealousy here; she already knows that Malibu Heterodyne is more dangerous than most people think (at least when they first encounter her, anyways), and she expects (with some justification, admittedly) that Gil's going to be his usual clueless-goof-around-females self around her.

Also, I'm still a bit confused as to what's going on in Pinky's head with regards to Ruthless!Pinky and Ditz!Pinky. She's a little trigger-happy with that little pink gun of hers. Sometimes >.>

BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
vigilantly taxonomish
#1363: Apr 17th 2009 at 12:42:51 AM

I'm thinking the ditz persona is Obfuscating Stupidity.

Which isn't to say that she's really all that smart, either.

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TeChameleon Since: Jan, 2001
#1364: Apr 17th 2009 at 12:53:49 AM

Except that according to Gil, Ditz!Pinky was pretty much a way of life for her when she was in Paris, and some of the stuff she's said (like about how stuffy the old Knights of Jove were, for example) leave me wondering if Ruthless!Pinky is a front for her true, not-too-bright personality.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#1365: Apr 17th 2009 at 8:03:59 AM

My advice to Agatha:

  1. Go to a neighboring room
  2. Ask Der Kestle for the right angle
  3. Divine Buster.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#1366: Apr 17th 2009 at 8:06:49 AM

@Te Chameleon: So, it's Obfuscating Cleverness?

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Lyanna Since: Jan, 2001
#1367: Apr 17th 2009 at 11:33:03 AM

In othar news: "Year of Storms 22 years ago." Wonder if that's foreshadowing.

It is especially ominous with the new tweets about the state of Le Havre.

Exits, pursued by a bear.
Katsuhagi Since: Jan, 2001
#1368: Apr 17th 2009 at 5:10:30 PM

Props to Irritable Reptilian for the "Malibu Heterodyne" nickname. I think I'll have to start using that.

That aside, the Foglios amaze me with how many things they can add to a Thirty Xanatos Pileup and keep it from derailing.

Brickman Since: Jan, 2001
#1369: Apr 17th 2009 at 5:54:34 PM

While funny, Medinoc's suggestion would sort of add to the destruction of the castle, so it won't go along with that plan.

Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#1370: Apr 17th 2009 at 5:58:09 PM

If the castle thinks it's a choice between having its mind shut down (possibly irretrievably) and losing a few walls, I'm pretty sure it will pick losing the walls. Especially if they're in areas that's the main mind has lost control to a splinter mind.

Rallan but they CANT kiss! Since: Jan, 2001
but they CANT kiss!
#1371: Apr 17th 2009 at 7:37:09 PM

"That aside, the Foglios amaze me with how many things they can add to a Thirty Xanatos Pileup and keep it from derailing. "

Well it's gonna be a thirty something pileup, but probably not a thirty Xanatos pileup. The only folks who seem to have plans within plans are Othar (who's surely going to at least attempt to doublecross Klaus for tradition's sake), Klaus (who must've told Othar a few porkies in anticipation of that), and Tarvek (who's out of it now, but who'll probably start doing a bit of Xanatos Speed Chess once he gets better and attempts to take advantage of the situation). Everyone else is so depressingly straightforward about exactly what it is they're trying to do.

FurikoMaru Reverse the Curse from The Arrogant Wasteland Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
TeChameleon Since: Jan, 2001
#1373: Apr 18th 2009 at 10:49:08 AM

Yeh, 'obfuscating cleverness' works. Although... I dunno, I'm still not quite sold. I mean, yeah, it's possible that Malibu Heterodyne (and I'm pretty sure I stole that from the Yahoo GG group, although it's faintly possible I may have started it there, too... I really don't remember, it was a while ago) is exactly as she seems- a ruthless quasi-mastermind who has been playing the ditz for years, but... hmm.

Haven Planescape Hijack Since: Jan, 2001
Planescape Hijack
#1374: Apr 19th 2009 at 6:20:38 PM

New page up really early.

The traps have minds of their own now, too? Wow.

Alright, this is definitely gonna be a Thirty Xanatos Pileup. If the traps are smart enough, they might start developing schemes in their own right; additionally, Tiktoffen seems like he's on the side of the castle or science itself, which would tentatively put him on Agatha's side but not necessarily, especially with that ominous skull foreshadowing. He'll probably develop an agenda or at least a scheme.

Other possible players: the various other sections of the castle, some of which may still be cogent enough to scheme; the prisoners (including Merlot); any independently operating traps with their own ideas about being cooped up in a castle/taken control of by the other factions/getting annihilated by the baron (come to think of it, every other faction wants to destroy those traps, don't they? but only the baron's scale is really "annihilation" at the moment); and maybe even Zeetha, considering all that foreshadowing the Baron was throwing around.

edited 19th Apr '09 6:31:45 PM by Haven

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LullTheConqueror Love Freak from eternal loli Hell Since: Jan, 2001
#1375: Apr 19th 2009 at 6:21:57 PM

"For goodness' sake... it's just one little clank."

Ominous is the word we use here.

the dice are loaded, the deck is stacked, the game itself will hold you back

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