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BigBadShadow25 With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg. from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Desperate
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#14251: Dec 7th 2024 at 6:18:23 AM

It’s an interesting concept if true. Post Apocalyptic setting, little amputee girl for the avatar…

I mean, FOP: A New Wish turned out to be real, let’s see how this plays out.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Dec 7th 2024 at 3:00:50 PM

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TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#14252: Dec 7th 2024 at 10:42:01 AM

[up] I don't think she's paraplegic, everything I've seen has her missing one of her legs.

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#14253: Dec 7th 2024 at 12:03:33 PM

[up]Okay fixed. But it’s honestly a very interesting direction to take it. And it’s a good idea to have the younger Avatar again.

If it is gonna be post apocalyptic, it’s gonna be interesting to see what technologies have survived. Did they say how long it was since the events of Korra? Like could it have advanced to their world’s version of the 1950s? 70s? 90s?

Okay, I just read the cyberpunk thing. That answers that.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Dec 7th 2024 at 4:48:26 AM

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#14254: Dec 7th 2024 at 5:18:45 PM

[up] What cyberpunk thing? There's a lot going around, so even if the original leak is real take most of what you see with a grain of salt.

BigBadShadow25 With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg. from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Desperate
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#14255: Dec 7th 2024 at 5:47:57 PM

Okay… well, I hope it happens. It’ll be fun and dark and possibly have a big brother/little sister dynamic that will be so wholesome.

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#14256: Dec 7th 2024 at 5:52:59 PM

[up]If it’s anything like the last time the Avatar was misidentified, “wholesome” is not on my bingo card.

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BigBadShadow25 With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg. from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Desperate
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#14257: Dec 7th 2024 at 5:56:00 PM

You did see the animatic and the art of the main characters? I’m expecting AANG levels of wholesome, at least until the looming shadow of the plot appears.

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#14258: Dec 7th 2024 at 6:03:23 PM

[up]Sure, it always starts out that way.

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#14259: Dec 7th 2024 at 6:24:29 PM

Hmm this is minor but i kinda doubt the protag is going to be younger than Aang was or at least significantly younger. Although, if true, I guess the supposed apocalypse hastens everything.

Edited by MacronNotes on Dec 8th 2024 at 12:45:35 PM

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#14261: Dec 7th 2024 at 6:29:15 PM

[up][up]What I’m reading is that the kid is probably about 10. At least at the start. But yeah, the accuracy is probably TBD.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Dec 7th 2024 at 9:30:17 AM

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TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#14262: Dec 7th 2024 at 10:34:01 PM

I can see them having a very young main character because I think the main point of this series will be to bring in new, younger fans. Korra had ratings problems in part because it was so narrowly targeted at older established fans, being very heavy on continuity and connections to the previous series. So I buy that they'd want a younger main character and less burdensome continuity to be more newcomer friendly.

This leads to a pet theory: assuming the Lela’s are mostly true, I'd wager the new avatar isn't actually the one immediately after Korra, but that the series will take place hundreds or even thousands of years after the previous one. That lets them be fully divorced from the continuity of the previous series and makes the big changes to the worldbuilding go down easier.

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#14263: Dec 7th 2024 at 11:53:59 PM

[up] No, it didnt, it premiered to absolutely wild ratings 4 million in kids which the first series never did. But for some reason they moved it from Saturday Mornings into Friday for the second season and its audience never recovered. But even at its lowest rated Korra did the last "Truly Amazing ratings" out of any action show aimed at kids.

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#14264: Dec 8th 2024 at 12:56:33 AM

[up] Rating was more of a synecdoche for general underperformance. iirc the motive for moving it to Friday was the disappointing sales of its toy line. Regardless, it still makes sense to try to avoid Continuity Lock-Out with any new series, especially given how much longer it's been between series.

It's kind of weird for me to think about it this way, but ATLA and Korra came out very close together, only four years. It's been almost three times that, the target audience for a hypothetical new show wasn't born when Korra ended.

BigBadShadow25 With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg. from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Desperate
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#14265: Dec 8th 2024 at 5:08:07 PM

I found some of the leaked concept art flying around. Am I okay to share it on this thread (in a folder) or should I not risk it?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#14266: Dec 10th 2024 at 12:53:01 PM

Random question:

Do we know all the cultural influences in Avatar:

I know the Earth Kingdom is a specific era from Chinese History (not sure which one), and the Fire Nation seems to be Imperial Japan. And the Air Nomads in their original state pre-Sozin kicking their asses seems to be Tibetan Monks.

And the both Water Tribes are indigenous tribes of the Arctic and Antarctic.

Am I forgetting anyone?

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#14267: Dec 10th 2024 at 12:55:43 PM

Swampies! No idea if they are based anyone.

And the Hippies based on... hippies.

Those two tribes from The great Divide...

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#14268: Dec 10th 2024 at 12:59:40 PM

There's Sun Warriors, who are based primarily on ancient pre-Columbian Mesoamerica, including the Aztec and Maya civilizations, as well as the Inca Empire of South America.

Edited by jouXIII on Dec 10th 2024 at 10:59:50 PM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#14269: Dec 10th 2024 at 1:03:18 PM

[up]Oh right. I can't believe I forgot about those guys.

Also, I kinda lost track of what Artic and Antarctic Indigenous tribes are referred to now.

I had to look up if they're still known as Inuit or if that term has been phased out. Still not totally sure to be honest.

That's kinda what inspired this.

[up][up]I think them just being hippies is fine.[lol]

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#14270: Dec 10th 2024 at 1:05:30 PM

And the main hippy caused Sokka to have a red mark on his forehead thanks to lots and lots of facepalming. XD

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#14271: Dec 10th 2024 at 2:10:49 PM

While individual Asian cultures obviously have their distinctions, the color scheme and "inspired by" filter the show uses means a lot of things blur together.

Earth Kingdom is generally the most China influence, but Omashu has some India quirks that the live action show emphasized. Fire Nation is Japanese especially in their Faceless Mooks having Samurai style armor, but generals had more Chinese style armor. Water Tribes are Iniuit generally, but adopt a lot of broad Polynesian ideas while most of those cultures never industrialized the way the Northern Tribe was (or Southern Tribe in Korras time) and thus adopted China architecture with maybe some Russian hints. Air Nomads are Tibetan and Shaolin.

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#14272: Dec 10th 2024 at 2:14:08 PM

All of the nations in Avatar borrow from a few different cultures but primarily use Chinese clothing and architecture as the main backbone.

  • Earth Kingdom uses a lot of Ming and Qing Dynasty aesthetics but other places like Song are clearly wearing Korean hanboks and Kyoshi Island with its Kabuki makeup, kimonos and weaponry. Specific places like the Earth Kingdom's palace was inspired by the Forbidden City and the great walls of Ba Sing Sei by the Great Wall of China.
  • The Fire Nation's architecture was particularly inspired by the Yellow Crane Tower in Wuhan and primarily characters wear mandarin collars and Chinese style clothing and wield weapons used in Chinese kung fu.
  • The Air Nomads primarily borrow from Chinese Shaolin and Tibetan Buddhism. The typical outfit is fairly fantastical. Aang switches to a single shouldered kasaya and barechested is a very pop culture Shaolin kind of outfit. The Air Acolytes dress in more traditional Tibetan clerical fashion.
  • The Water Tribe is dominantly inspired by Inuit culture, but elements of Mandarin style architecture are seen in the Northern Water Tribe and its canaled streets are deliberately designed to resemble Venice.

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#14273: Dec 10th 2024 at 2:31:43 PM

As far as the Foggy Swamp tribe goes, people have considered bayou influences because of the accent and the swamp but I read a post on reddit that says they more closely resemble indigenous cultures present in Vietnam.

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#14274: Dec 10th 2024 at 2:48:57 PM

In terms of the way they speak and act, the Swamp Tribe are clearly based more on American "redneck" stereotypes than anything.

Edited by TheMountainKing on Dec 10th 2024 at 6:34:08 AM

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#14275: Dec 10th 2024 at 3:29:58 PM

There's also the Indian-coded Guru Pathik, from... we don't know.

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