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gc10 Human Bean from Pastastastan Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Human Bean
#12626: Jun 10th 2022 at 3:41:25 AM

[up][up]Apologies, I meant to reply to the message above yours.

Yeah, emotions are unpredictable, but it honestly makes Katara something of Unintentionally Unsympathetic. Doesn't she value her own father? Afterall it would have been a logical redemption from Zuko's side: Zuko's nation is responsable for killing Katara's mother, and he redeems himself by saving Katara's father. Instead she only forgives Zuko when he helps her finding the man who killed her mother. Does it mean she values revenge for her mother's death above the fact that his father was saved from likely suffering the same fate?

Anyway, it's kind of nitpicking anyway. Doesn't ruin the series that much nor Katara's character for what matters. It's just something that could have been handled kinda better.

Edited by gc10 on Jun 10th 2022 at 1:19:17 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#12627: Jun 10th 2022 at 5:12:41 AM

That's not remotely why she forgave Zuko.

She forgave Zuko because she realized how pathetic her mother's killer really was and how killing him would have been meaningless. And while she couldn't quite forgive him, realizing how unhealthy holding on to this kind of feeling allowed her to forgive Zuko.

She forgives Zuko not because he helped her get revenge for her mother, but because she realized that Vengeance Feels Empty.

Edited by M84 on Jun 10th 2022 at 8:17:09 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
gc10 Human Bean from Pastastastan Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Human Bean
#12628: Jun 10th 2022 at 8:16:06 AM

I badly worded the part about forgiving Zuko, you're right. There was much more depths than what I implied.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#12629: Jun 10th 2022 at 8:28:11 AM

Also, forgiveness is never owed. If Katara had never forgiven Zuko that would have been a perfectly valid thing for her to do regardless of how much he actually changed (though it would still be wrong if she never acknowledged the change).

That's an important lesson in real life that media should deal with more often.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#12630: Jun 10th 2022 at 8:32:36 AM

Yeah, Katara forgiving Zuko is very much about her deciding she doesn't want to keep nursing her grudge against him and not because he somehow "earned" it.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#12631: Jun 10th 2022 at 8:33:39 AM

A reminder that we saw what happened when someone endless pursued vengeance,they became just another killer

I'm thinking mainly of Hama here

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HeraldAlberich from Ohio (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#12632: Jun 10th 2022 at 1:26:13 PM

Another problem is that Zuko no longer has the advantage of being able to redirect Azula's lightning. Because she has figured out lightning redirection too.

I lost track of the thread for a while, so apologies that this is from two pages ago, but I really want to see Zuko and Azula bounce lightning at each other Tennis Boss-style now.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#12633: Jun 10th 2022 at 1:28:46 PM

Deadman's volly as legend of zelda fans call it

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HeraldAlberich from Ohio (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#12634: Jun 10th 2022 at 2:52:13 PM

Eventually they'd just form a continuous circuit of electricity between their fingers. Stick a cable in it and they could power a house. [lol]

YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#12635: Jun 10th 2022 at 2:56:49 PM

Which, you know, they basically started doing decades later.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#12636: Jun 10th 2022 at 3:08:53 PM

"A reminder that we saw what happened when someone endless pursued vengeance,they became just another killer "

I mean just look katara in that episode were she decide to do bloodbending to a guy just because she wanted to found her mother killer....Katara was going to a very unhealthy mindset in that episode.

I think another reason she forgive zuko is because how he act: he give her the means, they both act on it and Zuko neve ask any question about it, is a sort of....bonding if you will.

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jdeo1997 BLADE Pathfinders from Orion–Cygnus Arm Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
BLADE Pathfinders
#12637: Jun 10th 2022 at 7:06:29 PM

A patented Zuko-brand life-changing field trip

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#12639: Jun 10th 2022 at 8:55:47 PM

Of course her life didn't change due to a field trip with Zuko. Toph's life changed before she met everyone. Same with Iroh.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#12640: Jun 10th 2022 at 10:34:55 PM

Besides, what other advice could Zuko give other than "ditch your parents and find better parental figure(s)"?

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gc10 Human Bean from Pastastastan Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Human Bean
#12641: Jun 11th 2022 at 12:37:27 AM

The silver sandwich stuff.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#12642: Jun 11th 2022 at 12:59:30 AM

[up][up]Zuko dosent have to give you advice, is his life changing bending who do the job on you. tongue

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burninganimefan357 Since: Oct, 2012
#12643: Jun 11th 2022 at 1:43:27 AM

https://gizmodo.com/avatar-the-last-airbender-dawn-of-yangchen-novel-excl-1848951006/amp

Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but there's a preview of the Yangchen novel if anyone is interested.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#12644: Jun 12th 2022 at 3:19:19 PM

Guys anyone want to help with how to arrange the character pages.

Since we're getting into issues especially with the new films coming out and book.

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#12645: Jun 15th 2022 at 9:14:49 AM

According to Deadline, Avatar Studios is working on a total of three animated films currently.

Lauren Montgomery (Avatar: The Last Airbender) is attached to direct the untitled first installment.

Bryan Konietzko and Michael Di Martino, who created the franchise-launching series Avatar: The Last Airbender for Nickelodeon, will produce alongside that show’s EP, Eric Coleman. Paramount Animations’s and Nickelodeon Animation’s EVP of Movies and Global Franchises, Latifa Ouaou, will oversee development on the first film, alongside Jason Mc Connell, who serves as Vice President of Animation at Nickelodeon Animation & Paramount Animation.

Montgomery is a veteran director, producer and storyboard artist who served in the latter capacity on the original Avatar series. Additional credits on the directing side include Voltron: Legendary Defender, Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated and Young Justice

“As original creators Mike and Bryan expand the Avatar universe with us, we’re keeping it all in the family with Lauren bringing the same kind of expert, beautiful work she did on the original series to her new directing duties on the forthcoming theatrical,” said Ramsey Naito, who serves as President of Animation & Development at Paramount Animation and Nickelodeon Animation.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Jun 15th 2022 at 12:40:15 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#12646: Jun 15th 2022 at 9:16:52 AM

That's certainly ambitious

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lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#12647: Jun 15th 2022 at 10:54:02 AM

One is a Zuko centric movie, one is a new Avatar that was before Kyoshi. I wonder what the last is.

uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#12648: Jun 15th 2022 at 11:16:40 AM

Maybee the last one will be set after Legend of Korra so the three movies would be a prequel, midquel and sequel to the series respectivly.

ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#12649: Jun 15th 2022 at 11:22:46 AM

Regarding the new movies, while it's certainly great that they're happening, I'm still curious about why they're happening now, instead of in 2008.

Yes, I know there was the awful live-action movie, and Legend of Korra, but neither of those really felt like a long-term commitment to turning Avatar into a franchise along the lines of, say, Star Wars. Why didn't Nickelodeon strike when the iron was hot, and try to make Avatar into a large multi-media franchise right off the bat instead of sitting on the property for fifteen years?

If they'd done that, we could have gotten these movies a decade ago. I can't help but feel that Nickelodeon has been rather slow on the uptake regarding Avatar's potential as a franchise.

Edited by ElSquibbonator on Jun 15th 2022 at 2:23:54 PM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#12650: Jun 15th 2022 at 11:24:42 AM

Well, I think some of it could be explained as nostalgia for the original show starting to become pretty hot right now.

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