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Oct 5th 2011 at 9:52:41 AM

Also, since the Zetsus aren't human, their emotions may be fundamentally different from those of humans.

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Oct 5th 2011 at 10:44:51 AM

Blame Madara for giving his creations emotions. That never pans out well for anyone.

Also, why wasn't Naruto able to sense the hate in the Muu clone?

edited 5th Oct '11 10:46:51 AM by Cruherrx

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Oct 5th 2011 at 10:50:56 AM

I just realized some Fridge Brilliance. The Zetsu are made from a portion of the Juubi's chakra. Of course they would gigantic amounts of hate compared to the regular person.

@Cruherxx Because Muu is a pretty calm guy. He seemed to want to help them and so he lacked hatred. Muu looks like the kind of guy whose motto seems to be " Shit Happens. Deal with it."

edited 5th Oct '11 10:54:50 AM by Vanitas

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Oct 5th 2011 at 11:01:14 AM

[up]They were created from Hashirama's cells but grown by Tailed Beast chakra. They should have chakra similar to that of Hashirama since the cells are responsible for chakra.

@wanderlust, I ran your post by some users on a site I'm a mod at and I got an interesting response to your points. I can post it if you'd like.

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Oct 5th 2011 at 11:07:11 AM

[up][up] That Tailed Beast Chakra probably has more influence over Zetsu than that.

I'm imagining all the Zetsu going into Tailed Beast Modes now.

@Cruherxx The fact that you're a mod is suprising. evil grin

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Oct 5th 2011 at 11:22:40 AM

10 tails. Unless Madara took some at some point not mentioned yet, he hasn't had his hands on 9 tails chakra until after the war started.

I've never been a mod on another forum. Every now and then, it's fun to poke fun at each other. Cru just seems to invite that a lot. And it's probably an Uchihate forum.

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Oct 5th 2011 at 11:34:44 AM

As a mod I have to be the voice of reason so I vent my Uchihate here.

@Wanderlust, here you go:

: I donít think Naruto just detects hate. He detects evil and ill intentions. He can probably tell what a personís nature is like while in Kyuubi mode, not just their emotions at the time but also their nature as a whole.

2: I agree that most of the alliance shinobi are useless save for a few that have really shined. I canít argue with that there. Lol.

A: Remember, when a Zetsu absorbs someoneís chakra, they are able to replicate that personís identity perfectly, from their chakra nature, to their physical appearance and their voices, etc. That means not even a sensor type would be able to tell the difference. Even if the sensor network were to try to pick them out, weíve already seen that most shinobi need a sensor shinobi to assist them in linking to that network (like how Naruto was helped by rubber man to contact Bee). In this particular situation, anyone approaching a sensor type ninja could be considered a major threat. Also, it stands to reason the Zetsuís would prioritize attacks on sensor types in each squadron first in order to break up the alliances coordination, so putting them at risk wouldnít be a wise strategy.

B: My belief is that the sensors at HQ lock onto each shinobiís unique chakra signature to identify and communicate with them (when they are not assisted by another sensor type on the battlefield). Now that so many shinobi have identical signatures, that isnít possible anymore. Also, as Shikamaru said, if the enemy has info on any of them they can still fool any form of interrogation.

C: Mind reading skills like those the Yamanaka use, which could actually help in this situation, require direct physical contact with the victim, which, again, puts the user in danger of an assassination attempt and is too risky to be practical in this situation where so many people are involved. Conversely, if Ino used mind/body switch, she would essentially be an open and defenseless target that anyone could kill with little effort.

D: If Zetsuís can replicate a person in every way, up to all their physical characteristics and even their chakra nature, then I assume they will have the same scent as the replicated person as well. You donít think Madara would base his entire plan around this type of surprise tactic if he knew that all it would take to ruin his plans was a few ninja hounds or Inuzuka, do you?

E: Medics are rare as it is and there are already too few to go around. We learned from Tsunadeís backstory already how few there are relative to other ninja types and how vital they are to a war effort. You canít just throw a med nin away with a gamble like that, trying to heal the bad guys.

F: They never said Temari was the only wind user. Just that she was the strongest one there at the time. And even when Naruto did arrive, even his attacks werenít sufficient, so you canít really say it was only incompetence in that case. Narutoís advantage was that he was able to communicate with the Hachibi, which no-one else would have known about, so he was able to learn the Raikageís weakness that only the Hachibi could have provided a clue towards. Had Temari and Rubberman known that vital piece of information, they may have also been able to come up with a better plan to take the Raikage down. Everyone else was still useless though, so I canít argue there.

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Oct 5th 2011 at 12:29:03 PM

[up] Those are some good points, kudos to that guy for putting that all down in a sensible fasion.

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Oct 5th 2011 at 12:30:20 PM

[up]That's the main reason that guy and I get in to so many heated debates lawl

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Oct 5th 2011 at 12:36:10 PM

Quite. Tell him the response was much appreciated, please.

Also, remind him that that was just stuff off the top of my head, if absolutely no one else was of any use.

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Oct 5th 2011 at 1:16:08 PM

When I heard wanderlust's little speech got interesting responses on a forum Cru of all people runs, I can't say I expected to see that said response was disagreeing with him.

But yeah, I agree with what was said.

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Oct 5th 2011 at 1:49:14 PM

Hey, I can't be right all the time. Especially not when I'm just thinking up shit away from a computer.

And we all should've known I'd made a mistake when I started with the assumption that Ino would be worth something.

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Oct 5th 2011 at 1:54:56 PM

[up][up]That place is like work; I have to be calm and be the voice of reason. You guys are like my drinking buddies; I can bitch all day long. wink

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Oct 5th 2011 at 3:16:32 PM

[up]This comment[awesome]

You should have that quote on your page.

edited 5th Oct '11 3:16:42 PM by Vyctorian

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Oct 5th 2011 at 4:07:00 PM

I guess that would make me the kind of DD that smugly snarks in the corner, but once you get them going can be just as bad?

I don't drink, rare for a 22 year old in Texas, but I can act a drunk in the right company. It's infectious.

edited 5th Oct '11 4:56:17 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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Oct 5th 2011 at 5:07:42 PM

[up]I do not drink either (23 years old here), and hey man, you are from Texas!! I am too!!

edited 5th Oct '11 5:07:55 PM by Galeros

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Oct 5th 2011 at 5:10:37 PM

A lot of us are. More specifically, a lot are in or around DFW.

What say we all go egg Fast Eddie's house?

[down]Your point?

edited 5th Oct '11 5:13:00 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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Oct 5th 2011 at 5:11:42 PM

[up]Fast Eddie lives in the Bahamas...

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Oct 5th 2011 at 5:16:05 PM

[up][up][up]Uh..we should not egg his house because I do not think any of us want to get banned.[lol]

edited 5th Oct '11 5:16:14 PM by Galeros

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Oct 5th 2011 at 5:17:40 PM

The shortlived occasions on which this thread has more posts than the Bleach one are always due to interesting derails.

@Cru: It's always been fun to poke fun, but I think within the last 24 hours, this fun poking has clearly cemented into this thread being Vitriolic Best Buds. If not then, then definitely with that post.

You're right. "Let's go egg Fast Eddie's house" is dangerously close to a stock phrase.
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edited 5th Oct '11 5:21:09 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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Oct 5th 2011 at 5:42:12 PM

Man, I'm stuck here in New York. At least I'm by NYC. Now I just have to get into New York Comic Con and I can play Skyward Sword! Anyone want to come and help?

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