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jawal Since: Sep, 2018
#157976: Apr 6th 2025 at 4:21:27 AM

Which Naruto villain does body horror well?

Orochimaru and later Kabuto.

Something about them being walking snakes that can vomit themselves.

Edited by jawal on Apr 6th 2025 at 12:22:34 PM

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#157977: Apr 6th 2025 at 5:36:30 AM

[up][up] Part 2 was the part where he learned the Wind Element already.

Sorry i meant the start of Part 2. i lost a bit of my post while revising it. Rather than Naruto triumphantly returning and showing he can do bigger rasengan, i think Naruto should've returned and showed he can do some basic Wind Style.

Already beaten enemy? Kakuzu was on the verge of killing Kakashi.

I mean that Naruto doesn't arrive alone. The moment the reinforcements arrive, Kakuzu is done for. Naruto then insists he does it alone, leading to him beating Kakuzu.

jawal Since: Sep, 2018
#157978: Apr 6th 2025 at 5:59:34 AM

Sorry i meant the start of Part 2. i lost a bit of my post while revising it. Rather than Naruto triumphantly returning and showing he can do bigger rasengan, i think Naruto should've returned and showed he can do some basic Wind Style.

Although this may have caused fans to compare Naruto even less favorably to Sasuke, who has advanced quite a bit during those last three years.

Anyway, Naruto already possessed the most powerful and invincible technique to ever exist, and he knew it since the Academy.

Sexy no Jutsu brought even the mighty Kagoya to her knees.

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#157979: Apr 6th 2025 at 1:31:51 PM

Although this may have caused fans to compare Naruto even less favorably to Sasuke, who has advanced quite a bit during those last three years.

I think this is fine. Sasuke was always stronger and more skilled, roughly until Naruto started using Kurama's power more explicitly. However, this was also a double-edged sword.

Sasuke's thing is that he is (generally) more skilled than Naruto.

IMHO the main thing Naruto needed to demonstrate was mostly that he had learned to fill the gaps in his fighting more, which he doesn't actually do until he gets Sage Mode.

AlexHopeLife Since: Feb, 2025
#157980: Apr 6th 2025 at 1:58:41 PM

Comparing

  • Sakura: Learned to use super strength and medical jutsus.

  • Sasuke: Became an unstoppable one-man army, able to defeat 1,000 ninjas without having to kill them.

  • Naruto: Learned to make a slightly larger Rasengan.

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#157981: Apr 6th 2025 at 2:30:38 PM

I forgot how hard Naruto worked to earn the Rasengan. People say he's dumb and isnt good at jutsu, but the Rasengan was quite hard and learned it relatively easily, like a genius would.

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FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#157982: Apr 6th 2025 at 4:49:52 PM

Sakura is completely retooled into a Tsunade Jr 'this has the problem of making her feel the least original later on' but now the timeskip has to really solidify that this is the version/direction of Sakura going forward no more lip servivce to she's brainy one or a genjutsu type no no no she's the brawler now!

Sasuke is just absurd with his new lightning focus where he has forcefields and energy swords along with his fire jutsu and sharigan! Lightning Snake Sasuke is no joke

and thats kinda the issue Naruto kinda feels like he is a background character for this strecth... like yeah his big first New move is just a big Rasengan with two clones. and really the itachi clone fight is more to establish that kakashi didn't take his asskicking lying down. and then the deidara fight is to show off Kakashi new Sharigan move

He doesn't seem to show any real growth like he still relies on another clone to help him with the rasengan instead of being able to one hand it which would have been a small visiual que to show he had master his chakra control

But I can understand it

Naruto is the main character and Kishi probably doesn't want to overload him with new stuff offscreen he wants to reader to experience Naruto's growth first hand

like some writers don't like making thier heroes suddenly really capable

You can do it look at Luffy in one piece after the timeskip up till Wano or Goku in the 23rd budokai

so yeah Naruto really should have come back from his training with some Elemental jutsu to counter Sasuke but I can understand why Kishi did it that way

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#157983: Apr 6th 2025 at 6:02:07 PM

I feel Tsunade is badass and her will carrying on via Sakura is amazing. Sakura absolutely makes the best out of it, she's absolutely badass. She's a Precure in an absolutely more violent series than Precure which is awesome to me.

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#157985: Apr 6th 2025 at 7:30:01 PM

[up] Yeah, Kinda? Are you talking to me? I agree, it is Kinda.

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lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#157986: Apr 6th 2025 at 7:48:18 PM

I don't think Naruto learning the Rasengan was a a sign of genius, he made his own way to get around the parts that where too difficult for him that required finer control then he could muster at the time.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#157987: Apr 6th 2025 at 7:54:37 PM

[up] Pretty much, think "clever" is a better word to use than genius. There's also a bit more, but I'm not sure how to put it into words.

Edited by Cross on Apr 6th 2025 at 10:55:28 AM

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#157988: Apr 6th 2025 at 7:56:28 PM

That's true. He's really clever, that's a much better word. A genius would have actually mastered it properly. I cant believe even near end of the series Naruto needed clones to make a Rasengan.

EDIT: I have to thank everyone for giving me the word clever. I already knew Genius was way too much but didnt know a more fitting word. Naruto definitely is definitely clever.

Edited by AegisP on Apr 6th 2025 at 7:57:50 AM

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#157989: Apr 7th 2025 at 12:05:38 PM

Character folders either need their descriptions heavily trimmed, or spoiler tags gone.

I'd prefer the former, as most of the descriptions are way too detailed.

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#157990: Apr 7th 2025 at 12:53:21 PM

I forgot how hard Naruto worked to earn the Rasengan. People say he's dumb and isnt good at jutsu, but the Rasengan was quite hard and learned it relatively easily, like a genius would.
It's a bit complicated because Kishimoto loves playing Naruto as dumb-as-a-brick and then have him be shockingly smart 2 seconds later. Naruto also later forgets the abilities of pain, arguably the most important fight in his life.

Having said that, Naruto is most consistently portrayed as practically quite smart but tactically and analytically quite dumb. At one point i think Neji calls him a "genius of hard work".

Naruto is the main character and Kishi probably doesn't want to overload him with new stuff offscreen he wants to reader to experience Naruto's growth first hand
My issue here broadly is that it makes the timeskip just way less interesting. To this day i still don't really get it's purpose, why did it need to be 3 years?

Just one truly new thing would've been enough.

I feel Tsunade is badass and her will carrying on via Sakura is amazing. Sakura absolutely makes the best out of it, she's absolutely badass. She's a Precure in an absolutely more violent series than Precure which is awesome to me.

it's also a good direction for her as a sort of "self-taught ninja"

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#157991: Apr 7th 2025 at 1:57:30 PM

I thought it was only supposed to be 2 years.

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Cross (Don’t ask)
#157992: Apr 7th 2025 at 2:21:34 PM

[up][up] Thought Rock Lee was the genius of hard work?

Edited by Cross on Apr 7th 2025 at 5:22:09 AM

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#157993: Apr 7th 2025 at 2:24:44 PM

[up] Same and it was Gai who said it.

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jawal Since: Sep, 2018
#157994: Apr 7th 2025 at 2:37:31 PM

[up][up][up]

I think it was two and a half years.

At first, I thought that this was a change made by the anime to justify those 80+ fillers, but I remember that the time that passed between the beginning of Shippuden and Orochimaru being ready to possess Sasuke seemed like it could be six months.

So two and a half years (even less in the anime).

Edited by jawal on Apr 7th 2025 at 10:38:19 AM

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Chaosjunction Since: Feb, 2010
#157995: Apr 8th 2025 at 6:56:16 AM

[up] x 5

The timeskip was that long because Kishimoto wanted to reintroduce Naruto at 15, since that's when Japanese kids start high school.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#157996: Apr 8th 2025 at 12:41:15 PM

Naruto definitely should've used Summoning Jutsu more often.

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Freshwater Since: Apr, 2023
#157997: Apr 8th 2025 at 1:22:41 PM

[up]It would have been cool to see more summoning jutsu and more combined transformations like when he and Gamabunta transformed into a nine-tailed fox against Gaara.

FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#157998: Apr 8th 2025 at 4:16:27 PM

[1]

I get it, it can seem kinda like Sasuke got the better teacher since he went from Chidori to fucking lightning swords, energy novas and being able to tactically call down the wraith of Zeus

Naruto atleast should have had discovered his primary element

but again it an issue of Kishi wants you to follow Naruto's journey where he knows ALOT of things the audience.

I think the real issue is Naruto went off to train to learn to control the Kyuubi... Naruto then basically barely seems to use that to buff his moves. like if he was basically like he was at the end of part 1 but not feral but lucid and in control so suddenly he is swiping with chakra arms... OH WAIT THATS WHY

When the first major opponent is all about keep away giving naruto a ranged option would defeat the purpose of the fight.

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#157999: Apr 8th 2025 at 4:29:16 PM

I know this might be off topic, but one of the things Oda got praised when One Piece did its time skip, was that he made SURE to show Luffy's improvement and what he learned with his 2 year training. Fishman Island, other than the nuanced tale of prejudice and racism, was notable because the arc was basically the Straw Hats showing off how much they improved since the time skip.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#158000: Apr 8th 2025 at 6:22:03 PM

So basically, it raises the question of why people need eyes specifically to do what they do.

As I understand it, Japanese culture has a thing about "eyes being a window to the soul" and have some spiritual importance.

Which leads to eyes being a motif in a lot of Japanese anime - Hunter X Hunter has Kurapika's Scarlet Eyes, the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception from Fate, Adam and Jack the Ripper's special eye powers in Record of Ragnarok, the Mikuru Beam in Haruhi, Granolah's eyes in Dragonball Super, the Saiyans losing their irises when they power up, Kenpachi's eyepatch in Bleach, the Jagan Eye in YYH. Then of course you have Naruto's Sharingan, Byakugan, Rinnegan, Sharinnegan, Tenseigan, whatever the heck Boruto has, and te various eye powers from filler.

Where American writers love Flying Brick characters it seems common that Japanese writers love having special eye abilities.

Edited by FOFD on Apr 8th 2025 at 9:25:30 AM


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