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Sep 14th 2018 at 1:59:50 PM

The general idea of this conflict is visibly contrived by the forced narrative, not much differently from why Bolt had issues with Naruto in the first place.

alekos23 Spook from Spook
Sep 14th 2018 at 2:46:16 PM

Gaiden had Shikamaru forcing Naruto to pop his clones that were playing with Boruto iirc. Blame him.

Sure he then goes to pretend he's innocent in the movie and tells Naruto to take a break but you know how it goes.

Sep 14th 2018 at 5:30:17 PM

There is a scene where Bolt goes for one of his kunai during said fights, only to change his mind and use the ninja tool.

More than anything what was really his crutch was his need to impress his dad.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 14th 2018 at 5:48:22 AM

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Sep 14th 2018 at 5:36:20 PM

Really Boltís daddy issues is due to Kishi needing to write about his inadequacies as a father due to his time as a mangeka taking away all his family time & so he choose Naruto & Bolt to be his outlet.

The issue is it kinda doesnít fit organically.

Sep 14th 2018 at 7:10:21 PM

Naruto screwed up for a bit, realized it and decides to fix it by having a better work-home life balance from that point on. Himawari's birthday was the low point.

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Sep 15th 2018 at 3:32:40 AM

Oh look, Naruto actually owned up to the fact that he's been a bad father and apologized. Nice.

Also, Naruto and Sasuke vs Momoshiki was awesome fight. It looked great.

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Sep 15th 2018 at 5:45:52 AM

My favorite part of that fight is that Boruto's Dad and the Sauce actually displayed some legitimately good teamwork. That's so rare in anime, especially shounen anime, that I love seeing it.

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Sep 15th 2018 at 9:04:51 AM

I can understand being very critical of Naruto at times for how he handled things, but the "Naruto is a bad dad" thing is just a bit played out. He got too wrapped up in a very demanding job, eventually realized how bad he'd screwed up and resolved to fix it. There's even a bit where he has a makeup birthday party with Himawari and Boruto and promises to not let it happen again.

As for the Momoshiki fight...yeah, it was great. One of the better fights along with Kakashi vs. Obito, Naruto vs. Sasuke and Sakura vs. Shin. And totally agreed on the teamwork bit. Naruto and Sasuke work shockingly well together.

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Sep 15th 2018 at 9:27:25 AM

[up][up]In that case why not leave the paperwork to a clone and show up in person from time to time?
I mean he could but given that he seems to struggle with the paperwork when he does it himself sending a clone to do the work would probably be about as effective as doing it himself (So not much.) and be seen a shirking his responsibilities.

Like no offense but when he can make clones that are damn near the same as him sending them to spend time with his kids isn't a bad thing like Boruto likes to make it out to be. Yeah Naruto should spend time with his family more but him using clones is a valid option as well.

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Sep 15th 2018 at 9:34:12 AM


I disagree. I think this issue was just contrived to add unneeded drama, especially since past Hokages didn't overload themselves with work and made time for their families. And past Hokage regimes were during more conflicted times.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator
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Sep 15th 2018 at 9:46:46 AM

The only other Hokages we see properly throughout the series are Hiruzen and Tsunade and Tsunade is absolutely swamped in paperwork. Not to mention even if the wars have stopped if anything that just means more work overall, since there's probably been a baby boom, the economy is almost certainly growing, which means there's a far bigger administrative burden especially on large metropolitan areas...

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Sep 15th 2018 at 10:42:55 AM

Yeah, we don't actually know this. From what we see, Tobirama didn't even have a family. Hiruzen and Asuma were distant from one another when Hiruzen died, and Hashirama never even mentions his wife and kids, only referencing Tsunade picking up his gambling habit.

Minato was Hokage for a very short time and we don't really know how much time he and Kushina were spending together through it.

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Sep 15th 2018 at 11:06:10 AM

Wasn't Konohamaru also introduced as being obsessed with beating his Grandpa? Not the greatest relationship in the world.

Sep 15th 2018 at 11:29:05 AM

Lesser extent there. Konohamaru wants to be the strongest and his granddad is Hokage. Minato wanted to fight Jiraiya most of all, just a general "I wanna be the best by surpassing the best." He clearly and totally loved Hiruzen, too.

Asuma had a bit when he spoke at Hiruzen's grave commenting that he spent time running off and doing whatveer he wanted without understanding his father for too long but gets him now.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator
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Sep 15th 2018 at 11:53:46 AM

Konohamaru was mainly struggling with the massive expectations that came with being a Hokage's grandson, not any neglect on Hiruzen's part.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
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Sep 15th 2018 at 9:55:39 PM

[up][up] REALLY!? I didnt know that. I need to learn more about Minato's past.

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Sep 20th 2018 at 10:40:13 AM

This weeks Bolt is two episodes.

Inoshikacho join Bolt and Salad by the end and the second dealt with the White Snake Sage Priestesses, who are creepy snake ladies who feed on Chakra of those who fail their tests. Was surprised to see the White Snake Sage herself takes human form and is also a lady.

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Sep 20th 2018 at 5:10:23 PM

Manga reveals Kawaki did not get his Karma from godslaying as Boruto did, rather Jigen gave it to him using his own seal, which is indeed what the diamond on his chin is. Also potty humor..

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Sep 20th 2018 at 6:48:32 PM

Chapter's out.

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Sep 24th 2018 at 1:16:42 AM

Double posting to fix the glitch.

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Oct 8th 2018 at 4:14:44 AM

Hey did anyone see this new Plague of Gripes about Naruto:

I hate to beat a dead horse but what do you make of the hard work vs talent theme of Naruto?

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Oct 8th 2018 at 7:54:57 AM

He pretty much got down to why that fell apart the longer the series went on; it isn't that Naruto never worked hard to get to where he was, it's the absurd number of things he had in his favor that made those gains much more substantial than what a normal person would have gotten. The comparison to Lee, Guy, and Minato is spot on; The first became an irrelevant side-character, the second had to kill himself to do anything to the Big Bad, and the third was still some kind of "prodigy" eve if he had no backstory with any of the old powers.

Plauge even said on the reddit thread about this video that the series technically cycled through several themes instead of sticking to a few that could fit each other thematically, and that it was the lack of cohesion behind all of those themes in Naruto that led to its downfall.

Oct 8th 2018 at 7:57:03 AM

I have told repeatedly that it wasn't, and it was mainly centered around around a character that was going to be screwed over anyway.

Oct 8th 2018 at 8:12:46 AM

The main reason people think that is because of the series itself framing (or "coding" I suppose) Naruto's journey as being about that theme to a degree. It's not accurate no, but it certainly gave that impression for long enough that people can't really be blamed for the author's mixed messages.

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Oct 8th 2018 at 10:25:01 AM

Wow, that video was incredibly on point.

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