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  • Awesome Music: While largely ignored, the self titled album has some good songs, notably "Beyond the Dark Sun".
  • Contested Sequel: The Forest Seasons, from some, just for not being Time II, along with the controversies over the crowdfunding drama and its Loudness War mixing.
  • Fandom Rivalry: With Ensiferum. However, there is no bad blood between the bands themselves, and Jari has stayed a good friend with Ensiferum's Markus Toivonen.
  • Fan Nickname: "Finnish Democracy" for Time.
  • Hype Backlash: Despite how much they've gotten a fanbase, the metal community is not kind to the band due to the sheer amount of time it took for Jari to make Time I (considering it took six years to make), even more with the debated Development Hell that Time II went through. That and the lack of guitar solos. Jari's behavior throughout this process has not made him any friends either.
  • It's Short, So It Sucks!: One of the common complaints about Time I. The other being that it lacks long guitar solos.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • Any joke about when Time II is to drop.
    • The slew of jokes regarding Time II and Wintersun being called the metal equivalent to Valve and Half-Life, even saying "Time II is basically Half Life 3".
    • As mentioned above, saunas.
    • "IT IS DONE."
    • The "crowdfunding" for The Forest Seasons has become this, especially with accusations/jokes about Jari conning fans.
  • Narm: The chorus of "Time" can be fairly cringe-worthy, with its rather sappy lyrics, bombastic music and Jari's nigh-operatic delivery.
  • Narm Charm: "WE ARE THE SONS OF WIIINTER AND STAAA-ARS! WE COME FROM AFAR, BEYOND TIME!" Incredible amounts of Ham and Cheese, but also catchy as all hell. Lampshaded by the band themselves on the bonus track, which, after what sounds like a rehearsal of the chorus, has them reciting other lyrics from the song and immediately cracking up.
  • Overshadowed by Controversy: Name a person who doesn't mention the infamous crowdfunding drama surrounding The Forest Seasons.

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