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  • Audience-Alienating Premise: The rumors that the movie will completely divorce itself from the Spider-Man property — which is crucial to Venom's story, character design, superpowers, and the appeal to the character — has left a number of fans wondering what the point of this movie is and why Sony should even bother with making it. The answers are likely to be found in the Avi Arad/Matt Tolmach duo, who pushed for the film to get made despite both the blatant diminishing returns of The Amazing Spider-Man Series and the current Sony / Marvel Studios partnership that gave birth to Tom Holland's Spider-Man with much success. The fact that Sony has become infamous for producing some of the most hated movies of recent Internet memory is surely not helping matters, either. In addition, the last time a similar attempt was made at making a solo movie about a supporting character of a famous superhero property with no relation to said famous superhero, it resulted in Catwoman, which was a critical and financial failure, further reducing confidence in this movie's success. Also not helping is the fact that both studios are giving multiple contradictory statements about how the film does or doesn't tie into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, raising suspicions that Sony is putting little real thought into it.
  • Author's Saving Throw: The second trailer shows much more than the first.
    • Shots from the first trailer such as the scene of Eddie screaming out, which quickly became infamous, are shown again but with completed CGI, making the scenes look a lot less silly. Venom himself is finally shown as well after being completely absent from the first one.
    • The relationship between Eddie and the symbiote is explored far more than it was with Topher Grace's portrayal from Spider-Man 3, being portrayed closer to the schizophrenia dynamic from the comics.
    • Much like Ben Affleck's Batman voice, a vocal filter is added to give Brock's Venom form a Badass Baritone instead of Topher Grace's more weaselly and awkward performance. Venom's appearance is also larger and more monstrous rather than looking like a doppelganger of Spider-Man. The creators also made sure to include Venom's trademark dragon-like tongue from the comics, which was not used in Spider-Man 3.
  • Awesome Music: The music from the teaser trailer, "Life in Being", perfectly captures the feeling of darkness Venom brings yet its heroic later tones show how Eddie and Venom are, at their cores, heroes.
  • Common Knowledge: While the "Sym-BEE-Yote" pronunciation is commonly used in Marvel adaptations, the movie opts to go with "Symb-EYE-Yote", which many fans see as being completely wrong. However, the latter pronunciation is still considered as phonetically-correct as the one used in most other Marvel adaptations.
  • Creepy Awesome: The reveal of Venom in all his hideous glory.
  • Creepy Cute: Whilst Venom himself is rather awesome and scary looking...he's also weirdly adorable. See Evil Is Sexy for more.
  • Epileptic Trees:
  • Evil Is Sexy: You'll find no shortage of people finding the fully formed Venom to be surprisingly hot. A lot of the findings point to his tongue. And keep in mind that none of these are even mentioning Tom Hardy, who's already an infamous Mr. Fanservice. (Or, for that matter, the portion of the comic's fandom that's long held this particular torch where Venom is concerned.)
  • Fanfic Fuel: The final Word of God vis-a-vis this movie's connection to the Marvel Cinematic Universe is that the characters in either will not crossover, but they do take place in the same reality. Combine that with the current plans for Spider-Man's villains to not include any who appeared in previous movies and there is ample opportunity for fanfics in which Tom Holland's Spider-Man and Tom Hardy's Venom interact with each other.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
  • Hollywood Homely: In comparison to Michelle Williams's stylish good looks as Ann Weying, Jenny Slate's scientist character wears oversized glasses and frumpy clothing that code her as an average-looking nerd, despite Slate's own attractiveness as an Unkempt Beauty.
  • Internet Backdraft:
  • Just Here for Godzilla: A particularly odd example in that there's a degree of apathy toward the movie itself, as while most Venom fans are excited for the movie, there are some Venom fans that are generally suspicious of Sony Pictures or are Marvel Studios fans worried about Spider-Man's future in the MCU. However, there has been simultaneously some interest in the movie for specific visual effects. After the second trailer was released, many have said they don't actually care about the movie's story and writing all that much, but they will be willing to watch it just for the scenes with Eddie Brock fully-transformed into Venom, which look stunning.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • Confused/Awkward Kevin Feige. Explanation 
    • Tom Hardy's starring role in the movie necessitated more Baneposting.
    • "1:16" Explanation 
      • "When *insert*." Explanation 
    • The ladies of the Internet, especially on Tumblr, are going pretty wild over Venom's tongue.
      • Responses remarking on how Venom is the successor to Tumblr's previous Evil Is Sexy obsession Pennywise.
    • "We.. are Garbo"Explanation 
    • DEFTOM 3 Explanation 
    • News articles pointing out that the full Venom trailer has Venom in it, after the teaser infamously didn't show him off.
    • Symb-EYE-Ote.note 
    • The full trailer reusing the exact same song as an earlier trailer for Avengers: Infinity War has led to much mocking about Sony's infamous online reputation for a lack of originality, or otherwise cracking jokes about the company being so desperate to catch up to the MCU as a whole as to directly copy its music choices.
  • Narm:
    • The scene of Eddie freaking out on the medical table is presented as the trailer's money shot. It... doesn't quite work as intended, which isn't helped by it being sped up.
    "NYYYaAAAAaaaaaaAAaaaaAAAAaaaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAAaaAAAARGH!"
    • There's also the generic-ness of the entire monologue in the teaser that could have been applied to any other movie, along with one of the focuses of it being shots of Tom Hardy just walking by himself as if it's a big deal.
    • The leaked trailer revealed some pretty terrible lines (“The guy you work for is an evil person.”). Tom Hardy's horrible New York...ish(?) accent isn't doing the delivery any favors either. And it really does not help that his voice cracks on the reading of "evil person".
      • Hardy's line reading of "You're not real, you are just in my head." sounds like he's suffering from Elmuh Fudd Syndwome. At worst, he sounds like Adam Sandler's signature Manchild babbling. However there's some speculation that, based on the context of the scene and Eddie's stumbling movements, he's actually drunk, or perhaps even overdosed on medication (considering he was seen taking a bunch of pills, thinking he's sick). That and it could be a case of Reality Ensues, as it's unlikely anyone would keep the mental clarity to speak normally as an alien parasite is slowly bonding with their body.
    • Movie trailers cutting quotes out of context to form a new sentence is nothing new, but the editing on the line "you will only hurt bad people" is particularly poor, and it's very easy to hear that the line has been cut together out of separate pieces of dialogue.
    • How Jenny Slate's character pronounces "symbiote" note . Plus, her giving firm, equal stress to all three syllables like she's speaking some foreign language.
    • Eddie trying to "journalism" his way into a confrontation with the Big Bad in public comes across as a What an Idiot! moment instead of giving off the impression that the character is an Intrepid Reporter. Those familiar with the comics however might remember that Eddie was not as great a journalist as he often made himself out to be and consider his sledgehammer approach to journalism to be perfectly in-character.
    • The shot of Eddie crashing straight through a half-fallen tree in the forest that he could just as easily have ducked under comes across as more comedic than cool, as if they just needed an additional gratuitous shot of something breaking. Especially if your mind goes to Victor from Wet Hot American Summer and his inexplicable refusal to jump over anything. It really does not help that the evil bad-guy vehicle chasing him looks like a slightly modified golf cart.
    • The official trailer using Redshift by Audiomachine (a song already severely overused in fan-trailers) barely a month after Marvel Studios had released the second trailer for Infinity War, which used the exact same song (although they at least had the decency to edit it to fit the Avengers theme.) To make things worse, the trailer was released only several days before the world-wide release of Infinity War, meaning a lot of people were checking out both trailers and could immediately notice the similarities.
    • Although it may look better in the context of the full scene, Eddie flying 50 feet into the air on his motorcycle off a slightly steep hill seems to rather severely break the laws of physics.
  • Narm Charm:
    • If it weren’t for Tom Hardy, the scene in the teaser of Eddie freaking out could’ve been much worse if given to a lesser actor. And it's not that the scene itself is poorly-acted, it's just the placement in the trailer and a lack of context that makes it seem goofy. Indeed, the actual trailer briefly revisits the moment, which looks significantly better with completed visual effects.
    • While Eddie confronting the Big Bad about the allegations against him in public is indeed an incredibly stupid move for a seasoned journalist, it meshes well with the fact that comic book Eddie despite what he believed wasn’t really as good at his job as he claimed. (Him losing his job in the comics was a result of him taking the confession of someone just claiming he was a famed serial killer withouting really collaborating it with Spider-Man catching the real killer soon after.note ) It also kinda endears us to Hardy’s version by showing he does indeed care about the lives of people and is willing to put himself at risk for the sake of finding the truth.
  • Older Than They Think: While the design has been derided for the lack of the white spiders, there is a basis for this, as barring the cover of the initial Ultimate Spider-Man arc and the video gamenote , Ultimate Venom lacks the white spider emblems.
  • Snark Bait: This film, along with Silver & Black, has gotten a lot of hatred for its unappealing premise of being centered around a former Spider-Man villain with practically all ties to Spider-Man removed, especially due to Sony's bungling of The Amazing Spider-Man Series. The fact that Sony has developed a reputation for producing some of the Internet's favorite punching bags (as well as this film being produced by Amy Pascal, who greenlit some of said punching bags) isn't helping, either, as is the fact that Catwoman, a film with a similar concept, turned out to be one of the biggest critical and financial failures in comic book movie history. This film's detractors are hoping that it will, like Fantastic Four (2015) was for Fox, be yet another critical and financial failure for Sony, so that Marvel Studios can fully regain the film rights of the Spider-Man franchise and that Sony will not be able to start a viable cinematic universe centered around Spider-Man and his Rogues Gallery that is not part of the MCU, and so that Amy Pascal can be further humiliated.
  • Special Effect Failure: Some of the tendrils that shoot out of Eddie when he hasn't fully transformed look conspicuously digital. As does the flailing Tom Hardy in the shot where Eddie goes flying off his motorcycle mid-air.
  • Spiritual Adaptation:
    • Corporate espionage resulting in one of the guilty party bonding with something that allows him to create tendrils from his body and perform feats of superhuman strength? This Venom movie makes for a decent [PROTOTYPE] adaptation. And the number of times Eddie's shown on a motorcycle (in addition to the obvious science experiment turned Phlebotinum Rebel Anti-Hero thing) also make it look more like a Darker and Edgier Kamen Rider than [PROTOTYPE] did. And since Eddie and the symbiote can talk to each other and they have to fight similarly combined beings, it's also reminiscent of Parasyte which was like [PROTOTYPE] a few decades early.
    • An anti-hero protagonist with a malevolent empowering otherworldly enemy within that he refers to as a demon and talks down to him inside his head with a sinister voice? Manifests itself often as as black combat tentacles and is capable of forming an armored appearance over top of him? Is this Venom, or The Darkness?
  • Tainted by the Preview:
    • The first teaser trailer was panned by fans across the Internet, as it didn't actually feature Venom himself. The overall consensus seems to be that it looked like a generic action-thriller that just happened to share a name with a Marvel character (which the trailer didn't even reveal, seeing as the movie was only advertised as V for some reason). Even acknowledging that principal photography had wrapped up right before the teaser was released, it's generally agreed upon that the teaser should've been released later when enough of CGI for Venom was finished, instead of making it feel like it was rushed out to screen with Black Panther. Many people have gleefully pointed to what happened the last time another studio tried making a Darker and Edgier adaptation of a Marvel franchise with seemingly little relation to the source material and a "grounded" approach to its sci-fi superpowers as an example of what's likely to happen with this film.
    • The actual trailer, while significantly better-received than the teaser, still has a significant number of detractors for its questionable dialogue (which isn't helped by Tom Hardy's dodgy "New Yorker" accent) and messy visual effects for Eddie's tendril attacks (although the latter may just be incomplete). However, most people have responded positively to the actual Venom transformation at the end.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: The apparent absence of the white spider on Venom's chest in the second trailer is a point of contention among fans of the character, and only further establishes the lack of an actual connection to the Spider-Man franchise that the character is dependent on. If it's merely out of frame, the trailer is sure bent on hiding it (and there is a shot of Eddie's full body mid-transformation where everything but his face and chest is covered in the symbiote).
  • They Copied It, Now It Sucks: Many people were not impressed with the full trailer using the exact same song ("Redshift" by Audiomachine) as an earlier trailer for Avengers: Infinity War.
  • Visual Effects of Awesome: Eddie's actual transformation into Venom is as suitably nightmarish as one could hope for, and a clear recipient of where the movie's budget actually went. It also looks much larger than the Venom in Spider Man 3, and sports much larger teeth and the trademark tongue. Later, an officially-released still showing Venom smiling proved that Venom looking stunning wasn't a one-off.
  • Win the Crowd:
    • While a lot of people wrote the movie off at first as Sony being greedy, some people actually got excited once it was announced that Tom Hardy would be playing Eddie Brock and that Ruben Fleischer (of Zombieland fame) would be directing. People seem to get even more excited as Hardy continued to show enthusiasm for the project.
    • To a lesser degree, the reported involvement of Riz Ahmed has been received positively, especially after he became the first Muslim, South Asian and Asian man to win an acting Emmy in any category (Outstanding Lead Actor in a Limited Series or Movie for The Night Of, to be specific).
    • The reveal that the movie would have Venom/Eddie as an anti-hero and be inspired by storylines like Venom: Lethal Protector got Venom fans excited as Venom rarely appears as an anti-hero in other media, despite being an anti-hero longer than he has been a villain.
    • The reveal of Venom appears in all his slimy, fanged glory in the actual trailer, which quelled concerns that the character would barely appear in that form to save on budget.


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