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  • And You Thought It Would Fail:
    • When being interviewed by Decibel in September 2006, Trevor recalled that the band was struggling mightily to connect with extreme music fans when they first formed, as their "Iron Maiden meets Crowbar" approach wasn't resonating with an audience that was looking for bands that sounded like Earth Crisis or Hatebreed. This apparently compelled Buz to ask him if he was "ready to grab hold", and when Trevor asked him what he was grabbing, he said "the sinking ship". Obviously, things got better for them.
    • There was a tad bit of skepticism when it was first announced that they had recruited a drummer off of YouTube. This ignored the fact that the selection process that brought Nick into the band was the internet equivalent of an invitation-only audition, with the band only looking into drummers who already had experience with other bandsnote , and explicitly asking them to record the drum tracks from their older work and post them on their pages. There's also the fact that Nick had to run an entire tour as a fill-in before being bumped up to full-time, which probably would have been a condition for any other drummer who could've gotten past the audition phase. These days, majority opinion is that Nick was an excellent fit with the band.
  • Base-Breaking Character: Derek Kerswill. Some think he was a perfectly capable drummer who did exactly what he was asked to on The March, was unfairly derided by a fandom who didn't quite get what the band was going for on that album, and was then unceremoniously drummed out when the rest of the band didn't like his ideas for their next one. Others say he was a mediocre drummer whose shoddy work kept the band's most ambitious album from reaching its full potential, and was then justifiably let go when he tried to push the band onto a mainstream rock path it never could've gone down without dropping its key member.
  • Contested Sequel: There was some controversy surrounding Darkness In The Light as the band made a number of subtle shifts (and a few less subtle ones, like the return of the clean vocals) that had preceded a full shift out of Metalcore and into mainstream metal among many of their contemporaries. The subsequent shift away from this and towards a more Melodic Death Metal-esque sound on Watchers of Rule may have been a response to this reaction.
  • Critical Dissonance: The Oncoming Storm received mixed reviews from many music critics, particularly long-time metal critics, but was immediately latched onto by the metalcore scene and is now widely regarded by both critics and fans as a prime example of the genre at its best. Conversely, The Stings of Conscience was very well received critically upon its release, but while plenty of pre-2004 fans still love it, Storm has largely overshadowed it in the public eye.
    • To an extent, this is true of their entire discography - they're beloved by metalcore fans for largely staying the course and managing to maintain creative vitality while doing it, and have even carved out a small Periphery Demographic in the Extreme Metal community due to their noticeably harsher sound compared to many melodic metalcore acts. Metal critics, however, have been very divided over the band,note  although more of them have ruled in their favor during The New '10s.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: Discussed in an interview from 2016, where Trevor mentioned that US tours like the one they were on at the time had become increasingly rare for them as interest in the genre slowly dried up from the late 2000's onward. Even with their fanbase remaining relatively strong compared to a lot of their contemporaries, they were finding more success booking shows in Europe (and getting crowds to those shows) since their style still held strong appeal there.
  • Signature Song: "My Will Be Done"

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