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  • Anticlimax Boss: The Fallen was over 20,000 years old, at least as old as Jetfire (who was falling apart), and would not come to Earth until Optimus was dead, implying that he was somewhat afraid of Optimus, so it is somewhat justified within the movie. Still, it was quite a disappointment to see the guy the comics have always presented as about midway between Megs and Unicron on the Oh, Crap!-ometer go down so easily.
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  • Alternative Character Interpretation: The scene early in the movie where the Autobots and N.E.S.T. are in Shanghai attacking Decepticons who were doing nothing but minding their own business has led some people to consider that the Autobots (or at least Optimus) are not as heroic as the movie intends them to be seen as.
  • Ass Pull:
    • Only just finding a shard of the AllSpark attached to his shirt a full two years after killing Megatron.
    • Simmons just happening to know of a weapon that could take down Devastator, which just happens to be on a nearby warship.
    • Scorponok just happening to show up during the battle in Egypt where he mauls Jetfire before he's unceremoniously disposed of, having apparently managed to avoid detection for two years after his defeat in Qatar.
    • The infamous sequence where the Primes resurrect Sam and repair the Matrix comes completely out of nowhere.
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    • The ability of the Transformers to teleport, which we see from both Jetfire and the Fallen is not explained or an ability seen from equally powerful cybertronians like Optimus or Megatron.
  • Badass Decay: Megatron got this slightly; while still very powerful, he's now The Fallen's Yes-Man and is not quite as unstoppable as before. Starscream, on the other hand, was the character who definitely got this, becoming a complete Dirty Coward.
  • Base-Breaking Character: Optimus fell into this. He remained the most popular Transformer in the series and is one of the biggest badasses in the movie, but quite a few fans took issue with his more savage battle tendencies introduced in this movie, which contradict the relatively pacifistic nature of the Optimus Prime character in most media. A third group of fans liked this incarnation more, happy that the movies were willing to make some changes with the usually infallible role that Optimus usually takes.
  • Big-Lipped Alligator Moment:
    • The scene with the Allspark fragment from the first film falling into the kitchen, turning his kitchen appliances into destructive feral Transformers, a fight ensues, the house is destroyed. Afterwards, this scene is never mentioned again, despite likely being used to establish the power of just one Allspark fragment.
    • Even worse, after the scene Sam goes right back to insisting he doesn't need Bumblebee's protection anymore.
    • When Simmons climbs up to Devastator, he sees that he has two wrecking balls hanging from his crotch to resemble a scrotum. None of the components of Devastator were shown to have wrecking balls, and it ultimately serves no plot relevance outside of a quick bit of Vulgar Humor,
  • Complete Monster:
    • The Fallen, also known as Megatronus Prime, is this film's Big Bad and the film universe's first Decepticon. Originally one of the 7 members of the Dynasty of Primes, The Fallen betrayed his brothers and attempted to use the Star Harvester on Earth's Sun regardless of the Dynasty's code against taking life, solely because of his Fantastic Racism towards primitive humankind. Eons after his defeat, The Fallen corrupts Megatron, creates the Decepticons, and orders him to find the All Spark, making him responsible for the events of the first film. After he lures Optimus Prime to his death using Sam as bait, The Fallen sank an aircraft carrier, attacked several human cities, and slaughtered a sizable military force while acquiring the Matrix of Leadership to activate the Star Harvester again, fully intending to wipe out the human race.
    • In the IDW comic adaptation, The Fallen himself is portrayed as even worse than his film counterpart. Once a member of the Thirteen Primes, The Fallen came to believe he was destined to become the most powerful of his brothers by re-powering the Allspark, then using it to make himself all-powerful. Using the Star Harvester, The Fallen drains the energy from a sun, uncaring that it leads to an entire planet dying, and blames it on one of his own servants when confronted about it. After attempting to use the Star Harvester once more, The Fallen comes to the realization that he no longer needs his Prime "brothers" or the Allspark, prompting instead to travel the universe searching for sentient life, then slaughtering countless worlds of their sentient species, absorbing the knowledge, weapons, and strategies of the billions he slays as he goes along. After butchering his Prime brothers, The Fallen attempts to use the Star Harvester to wipe out the entire Earth, taking extra time to crush humans underfoot while laughing. Though sealed away for thousands of years, The Fallen continues his wicked ways, as he reaches out and corrupts the noble Megatron into waging a war against Optimus Prime and the Autobots, leading to countless deaths and the destruction of Cybertron itself. The Fallen hopes to return to Earth and use the Star Harvester to destroy it for good this time, solely as a final act of spite toward his brothers.
  • Contested Sequel: Everyone agrees the Sequel Escalation was excessive, but the final opinion is divided between "mindless fun" or "total abomination".
  • Critic-Proof: Despite a 20% Rotten Tomatoes score and extreme hatred toward the film on various movie sites, the film still grossed over $800 million worldwide, and (with only a 2D release, no less) ranks among the few movies to make over $400 million in the U.S./Canada market; indeed, it was the 2nd highest grossing film of 2009 (behind Avatar), in the United States, and the 4th highest worldwide, and adjusted for inflation is the 81st highest grossing movie of all time. It has also received a solid Cinemascore rating and Rotten Tomatoes user rating, and has sold generally well on DVD and BluRay.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse: Jetfire, Sideswipe and Simmons (the latter of which was Rescued from the Scrappy Heap).
    • A greater example is Soundwave, with Frank Welker voicing him which made the appearance of the character help immensely.
    • Despite having no spoken lines and only a few brief shots, Long Haul holds a special place for many fans due to having a particularly awesome design that has been emulated in other characters, particularly Onslaught in TLK. It helps too that it was also the design that got concept artist Josh Nizzi on board as a Promoted Fanboy.
  • Ethnic Scrappy: Mudflap and Skids, already not helping their case by being Spotlight-Stealing Squad along with the humans (and, less unfavorably, Bumblebee), are also seen in many ways seen as racist caricatures of urban African-Americans. Thankfully, Michael Bay recognized how unpopular they were, and they managed to avoid the Creator's Pet curse by being almost completely cut from the sequel (and by being killed off by Sentinel Prime in its adaptations).
    • At least some of those are countered in the novelization. For example, Skids' and Mudflap's line that "we don't really do much reading" to justify why they couldn't read Cybertronian symbols (when they're, you know, robots who have computers for brains) is changed to that they can read, but the symbols are from the language of the Primes, which they don't know and is separate from the standard Cybertronian language.
    • And, apparently, they weren't intended to be parodies of urban African-Americans at all, but instead jab at the subculture of white males who emulate hip-hop mannerism to an offensive degree. Not a horrible idea in-and-of-itself, since the Autobots were already shown to adopt Earth cultures they most identify with and this could've been presented as a rather entertainingly cynical look at their cultural appropriation. However, the commentary falls somewhat short since they're, y'know, robots that have no ethnicity, leaving the audience to draw the most logical conclusions over what they're supposed to be representing.
  • Ham and Cheese: John Turturro as Simmons.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: Mikaela says to Sam that she loves him after he is killed by Megatron? That love won't last long.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • There's an entire scene with alien mecha wrecking battleships...
    • The Fallen's main scheme is to destroy the Sun with its' Harvester. Though he fails here, The Force Awakens shows that the First Order perfected the process of draining a star for its' energy. You'd half-expect The Fallen to be watching The Force Awakens, and throwing a beer at the screen when the First Order drains the star with ease.
    • The film revolves around a titular antagonist with ties to ancient Egypt, and also received substantially less praise than its predecessor and said antagonist was panned for being a Flat Character. The same would happen in 2016's X-Men: Apocalypse.
  • Ho Yay:
    • Between Megatron and Starscream.
      "Starscream, I'm home!"
    • Leo and Simmons always seemed real close to some.
    • Megatron looks absolutely heartbroken at the Fallen's demise.
  • Memetic Mutation: Optimus' line "Give me your face!" right before tearing the Fallen's face off.
  • Memetic Psychopath: The above-mentioned line "Give me your face" line especially blew up on, and for awhile references to Optimus stealing faces were inescapable on the wiki. Standout examples include:
  • Misblamed:
    • Michael Bay is not responsible for the Unfortunate Implications of Skids and Mudflap; the twins were improvised by their actors, and are meant to be parodies of white people pretending to be black. Of course, it's rather hard to tell when they're green and orange robot cars. Notably, Reno Wilson (who is black himself) was saddened to hear that his performance was apparently offensive to himself.
    • The weak story is not Michael Bay's fault either, and is largely due to the writer's strike going on at the time.
  • Narm: See here.
  • Narm Charm: "Give me your face!" Only Optimus Prime can make such a silly line sound threatening.
  • Never Live It Down: Before the release of RotF, the first Transformers movie was pretty well-liked but still debatable (even being nominated for a People's Choice Award). After the release of RotF, people started lumping the first movie together with its sequels as one of the "worst action movies of all time", and generally feel that any sequel released will inevitably fall into the same pit of putrid quality (including the two that have already been released).
    • Michael Bay himself has yet to fully separate himself from the reputation this film has gained, as it helped cement what audiences and critics disliked most about his directing style.
    • Movie Prime has yet to live down his "Give me your face!" line. Not helped by his tendency to target heads in the sequels.
    • Many know ROTF only as "the film with the two racist stereotypes and the wrecking balls testes joke".
  • Older Than They Think:
    • This is not the first time that a Transformers series had featured Ethnic Scrappy Cybertronians.
    • The idea of Transformers like Alice who can turn into humans is actually nothing new. The Pretenders first appeared in Generation 1, and both sides had them. (Although in that version, a Pretender's disguise was more like Powered Armor which could actually fight independently of the Pretender once it revealed itself.)
  • Romantic Plot Tumor: The Sam and Mikaela subplot mostly distracts from the main story, particularly due to Mikaela insisting Sam say he loves her while the fate of the world hangs in the balance. The next film would reveal the characters broke up anyway, making the subplot feel even more unneeded and pointless.
  • The Scrappy:
    • Skids and Mudflap are widely hated by fans for their obnoxious personalities and horribly stereotypical attitudes.
    • Though he certainly looked awesome and had Tony Todd's performance gong for him, between having zero motivation or characterization, a bizarre grab bag of unexplained powers, an awful, anticlimactic clusterfuck of a fight to his name, and nothing shown in the way of actual transformation, there's a reason the Fallen himself is widely considered to be the worst Big Bad of any of the films. Even Bay himself admitted that the Fallen was "kind of a (expletive) character" in an interview.
    • Sam's parents and Leo are the worst characters in the film for being a burden and annoyance. They have no significant influence to the plot.
    • Megatron starts his Badass Decay in earnest here, going from the supreme badass of the first movie to the Fallen's Yes-Man. However, this is nothing compared to what happens to him in Transformers: Dark of the Moon... but then he gets his cool factor back as Galvatron.
    • The Pretender Alice, whose presence in the plot feels rather forced, exacerbating the already contentious Sam and Mikaela subplot, and the film having difficulty deciding if it wants her to be scary or funny. The fact that a concept bringing in as much Paranoia Fuel as her, did actually have the potential to be something very dangerous and interesting, certainly doesn't help the disappointment over how she was used as just a romantic plot device either.
  • "Seinfeld" Is Unfunny: When ROTF was released, critics hated it, but general audiences were kinder to it and even defended the movie. Now, after two sequels full of deliberate attempts to correct ROTF's flaws, the movie is far less popular with general audiences, and is much more widely hated for turning the Transformers series into the critics' favorite punching bag.
  • Sequel Displacement: Revenge of the Fallen, much more than the first movie, has pretty much become a stereotype of what critics and fans expect from a Transformers movie, often resulting in pessimistic critics and pleasantly surprised audiences for the other sequels.
  • Sequelitis: Is infamously the second worst-reviewed movie in the series, and is widely considered one of the worst mega-blockbusters of all time. It is often credited (along with G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra) with causing the genre to no longer be taken seriously in Hollywood. It's saying something when a lot of Dark of the Moon's pre-release info involved assuring audiences that it would be better than this film.
  • Signature Scene:
    • Other quality issues aside, this movie does contain the famous forest battle, generally considered to be the series' best fight scene.
    • Whatever you may think of Devastator himself, his introduction falls squarely under this.
    • Optimus forging with Jetfire's remains before confronting The Fallen is also worthy of note.
  • Sophomore Slump: It's near-universally considered to be worse than the first film and Dark of the Moon.
  • Special Effects Failure: It's plainly obvious that the rendering and animation of the robots during all of the desert scenes, with the notable exception of Devastator, aren't up to par with the rest of the movie. The scenes that take place on Saturn's moon and in particular, the one where Starscream backs into a hatchling's pod, also look unfinished. It's particularly egregious when you consider Revenge’s budget outstripped its predecessor's by $50 million. Appropriately, while the first and third movies were nominated for the Visual Effects Oscar, this one was not. See Narm above for another infamous example.
  • Squick: Devastator's wrecking balls.
    • For some, Agent Simmons' thong-clad ass may count as such.
    • The Decepticon hatchlings.
    • Sam's two dogs mating.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
    • The titular Fallen. He's voiced by Tony Todd, the Greater-Scope Villain to all of the Decepticons, pretty savvy when it comes to picking his spots, and evidently quite a winner in the Superpower Lottery. Sadly, he also turns out to be a Flat Character with the barest minimum of screen time, not to mention his extremely glaring Forgot About His Powers moment against Optimus that results in an Anit Climax Boss. And reportedly, even Word of God ultimately regrets how he's turned out.
    • Arcee, Chromia, and Elita-1 as well. They get even far less screen time and dialogue than the aforementioned Fallen, Elita-1 is abruptly Killed Mid-Sentence during the finale, and both Arcee and Chromia subsequently suffer What Happened to the Mouse? statuses. Not helped at all by Michael Bay confirming all three of them to be dead and that he killed them off out of sheer hatred of the characters.
    • Alice, a Cybertronian Pretender who could perfectly mimic any human. She could easily have become a threat had she assassinated and imitated someone like a military general, where she could have actively worked to worsen human/Autobot relationships and sabotaged NEST from the inside. But instead, her only involvement is with the Romantic Plot Tumour.
    • Devastator. They give us a giant behemoth far more monstrous than any previous Decepticon combiner and what do they do with him? Drive a railgun through his head after fighting only two Autobots and accomplishing nothing of relevance aside from freeing up the sun harvester. Even worse, despite Constructicons being mass-produced in this universe (and therefore carrying the implication that multiple Devastators can be formed), this is the only Devastator that appears over the course of the film series.
  • Uncanny Valley: The Autobots and the Decepticons taking on increasingly human-like features as part of their primary modes; for example, the Fallen's "beard" and head resembling an Egyptian headdress. This would later become a norm for the sequels.
    • Skids and Mudflap were widely accused of mimicking blackface.
    • Finally, Devastator's wrecking balls.
  • Unexpected Character: Back when the film was first announced, fans were wondering who would be the main villain of the film now that Megatron was dead. Very few fans were expecting Bay to go with the Fallen, who at the time had only appeared in a single story-arc of Dreamwave's Transformers Generation One comics.
  • Values Dissonance: The entire reason why Skids and Mudflap were later removed entirely from the later films.
    • Once again, the alleged oversexualization of the female cast members among the humans received flak from some.
    • The professor's suggestive gestures and comments towards his female students right there in the classroom in plain view of the Dean certainly would not fly in any modern day institution and would be considered criminal in most circles of the law.
  • What an Idiot!: At the Smithsonian, Sam and Co. don’t bother to check the faction insignia of the Seeker they’re reviving until after they’ve already placed the Allspark fragment on the dormant Transformer. The inert jet turns out to have a Decepticon insignia plastered on it. Fortunately for them, Jetfire turns out to be a Defector from Decadence, but if that weren’t the case, things would have gone south for them very quickly.
  • What Do You Mean, It's Not Political?: Some accused Michael Bay of holding an anti-Barack Obama agenda, since he is specifically mentioned as being the president, and the government officials go from being generally cooperative (albeit in over their heads) in the last film to being complete jerkwads in this one. However, as Bay pointed out, the screenplay was completed and filming began at the start of 2008, before he or anyone else involved knew that the Democrats would nominate Obama (Hillary Clinton was still the favorite for their nomination at the start of 2008, albeit by a slim margin), much less that he would out-poll all other presidential candidates. Furthermore, Bay and the writers are known Democratic voters and meant no offense to Obama, and the decision to namedrop him occurred after Obama became president. Additionally, Obama is only mentioned in a brief line and shown in a few brief shots of news footage, both of which were obviously changes made in post-production. The line and snippet of footage could've easily been changed to focus on John McCain had he won the 2008 election.

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