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* EvilIsSexy: Bloody Mary. At least in her glamour form. [[spoiler: Her [[FanDisservice true form]] [[NightmareFuel not so much]].]]

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* {{Narm}}: When Bigby [[spoiler:transforms into full wolf form in episode 5, a lot of his growls are clearly lion or tiger growls instead of wolf growls.]]

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** Bloody Mary is so over-the-top that she almost comes off as a tryhard desperately attempting to prove that she's a badass than just naturally being one. The fact that she has to basically cheat to beat Bigby in the alleyway fight does her no favors.
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When Bigby [[spoiler:transforms into full wolf form in episode 5, a lot of his growls are clearly lion or tiger growls instead of wolf growls.]]
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* TearJerker: Holly [[spoiler: grieving for her sister]] and Toad Junior's breakdown while recalling the discovery of [[spoiler: her body]] in Episode 2 both qualify. Also, while Mr. Toad [[spoiler:may deserve being sent to the farm]], the boy doesn't. Him starting to cry only makes it so much worse.
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* TearJerker: Holly [[spoiler: grieving for her sister]] and Toad Junior's breakdown while recalling the discovery of [[spoiler: her body]] in Episode 2 both qualify. Also, while Mr. Toad [[spoiler: may deserve being send to the farm]], the boy doesn't. Him starting to cry only makes it so much worse.

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* TearJerker: Holly [[spoiler: grieving for her sister]] and Toad Junior's breakdown while recalling the discovery of [[spoiler: her body]] in Episode 2 both qualify. Also, while Mr. Toad [[spoiler: may [[spoiler:may deserve being send sent to the farm]], the boy doesn't. Him starting to cry only makes it so much worse.


* AcceptableTargets: The game series really hammers it in how New York City is the worst place to live in. At least once per episode, one of the characters will bring up how New York is terrible because the city life ruined their lives. (To be fair, New York in the '80s ''was'' infamously riddled with crime.)
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The fact that the game's ending is actually affected by your choices and there is a possibility to EarnYourHappyEnding for Bigby has actually won over fans of Telltale Games due to the TooBleakStoppedCaring that's been growing in their games ever since ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' game. Unfortunately, it still has its fair share of BrokenBase.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Bloody Mary. To some she is well received due to her menacing and charismatic entrance whose sadism brings in a much needed darker tone for the upcoming threat Bigby and his allies will soon come up against. Others find her introduction over the top, one-dimensional, and overly reliant on [[EvilGloating cheesy villain monologues]] to the point of {{Narm}}. Her detracters softened on her during the finale where [[spoiler: she reveals her true form and shows us exactly why she is called 'Bloody Mary']].

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Bloody Mary. To some she is well received due to her menacing and charismatic entrance whose sadism brings in a much needed darker tone for the upcoming threat Bigby and his allies will soon come up against. Others find her introduction over the top, one-dimensional, and overly reliant on [[EvilGloating cheesy villain monologues]] to the point of {{Narm}}.{{Narm}} (she spouts about six one-liners in a row as she's leaving at the end of Episode 3, each of which could serve perfectly well to end the conservation). Her detracters softened on her during the finale where [[spoiler: she reveals her true form and shows us exactly why she is called 'Bloody Mary']].

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* [[AwesomeBosses/VideoGames Awesome Bosses]]:
** The Jersey Devil has one of the coolest fight sequences in the entire game.
** [[spoiler: Bloody Mary]]'s true form, which serves as the technical FinalBoss.



* BestBossEver:
** The Jersey Devil has one of the coolest fight sequences in the entire game.
** [[spoiler: Bloody Mary]]'s true form, which serves as the technical FinalBoss.



* ContinuityLockout: Averted; Its nature as a prequel prevents a lot of need to read the comics it's based on, and the Book of Fables does a good job of explaining what certain terms mean, and helps people unfamiliar with the source material to understand the story.

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* ContinuityLockout: Averted; Its its nature as a prequel prevents a lot of need to read the comics it's based on, and the Book of Fables does a good job of explaining what certain terms mean, and helps people unfamiliar with the source material to understand the story.



* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler: Bloody Mary in the finale. She could have killed Bibgy but instead toyed with him, wanting him to go full-on Big Bad Wolf. Anyone could have see that was a mistake. Not to say Bloody Mary's the most rational character anyway.]] She does say that the Crooked Man told her not to.

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* {{Narm}}:
** The game continues giving you "[blank] will remember that" messages when it's obviously ten minutes from ending.
** When Bigby [[spoiler:transforms into full wolf form in episode 5, a lot of his growls are clearly lion or tiger growls instead of wolf growls.]]

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{{Narm}}: When Bigby [[spoiler:transforms into full wolf form in episode 5, a lot of his growls are clearly lion or tiger growls instead of wolf growls.]]
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* UncannyValley: Bufkin, especially the black eyes that seem to stare right into the player's soul.
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* HateSink: Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum are complete assholes with few redeeming qualities, going as far as to threaten Mr. Toad’s son and crash a funeral just to piss off the local Fables. They are designed to be hated by the player. [[spoiler:The closest they get to seeing justice is if the player chooses to kill Dee in Chapter 3]], which very few feel bad about.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The fact that the game's ending is actually affected by your choices and there is a possibility to EarnYourHappyEnding for Bigby has actually won over fans of Telltale Games due to the DarknessInducedAudienceApathy that's been growing in their games ever since ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' game. Unfortunately, it still has its fair share of BrokenBase.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The fact that the game's ending is actually affected by your choices and there is a possibility to EarnYourHappyEnding for Bigby has actually won over fans of Telltale Games due to the DarknessInducedAudienceApathy TooBleakStoppedCaring that's been growing in their games ever since ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' game. Unfortunately, it still has its fair share of BrokenBase.

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** In the comic prequel, [[ItsAllAboutMe The Knave of Hearts]] is a [[HeManWomanHater vile misogynist]] responsible for the creation of Bloody Mary thanks to his torment of her. Wanted by the Wonderland authorities for thievery, the Knave plans to escape any form of justice by selling a glass baby on the BlackMarket in exchange for an escape from law enforcement. Seducing dozens of women via mirrors across the world, the Knave supernaturally impregnates them all in the hopes their reflections will birth his glass baby, turning downright [[DomesticAbuse abusive]] to his lovers even as the pregnancy process usually kills them. When young Mary comes closest to successfully completing her birthing, the Knave grows impatient and [[TraumaticCSection carves the glass baby right out of Mary]], tearing out the umbilical cord with his teeth and leaving the gutted, traumatized Mary for dead. The Knave is flippant to the fact that his glass baby will be destroyed as part of his deal to save his own hide, and even when his plans are foiled, the Knave goes on to gain a new lover for him to abuse and [[DrivenToSuicide drive a victim of the Crooked Man's to suicide]].

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** In the comic prequel, [[ItsAllAboutMe The Knave of Hearts]] is a [[HeManWomanHater vile misogynist]] misogynist responsible for the creation of Bloody Mary thanks to his torment of her. Wanted by the Wonderland authorities for thievery, the Knave plans to escape any form of justice by selling a glass baby on the BlackMarket in exchange for an escape from law enforcement. Seducing dozens of women via mirrors across the world, the Knave supernaturally impregnates them all in the hopes their reflections will birth his glass baby, turning downright [[DomesticAbuse abusive]] to his lovers even as the pregnancy process usually kills them. When young Mary comes closest to successfully completing her birthing, the Knave grows impatient and [[TraumaticCSection carves the glass baby right out of Mary]], tearing out the umbilical cord with his teeth and leaving the gutted, traumatized Mary for dead. The Knave is flippant to the fact that his glass baby will be destroyed as part of his deal to save his own hide, and even when his plans are foiled, the Knave goes on to gain a new lover for him to abuse and [[DrivenToSuicide drive a victim of the Crooked Man's to suicide]].

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* CompleteMonster: The [[FauxAffablyEvil seemingly-benevolent Crooked Man]] is a [[TheDon ruthless crime boss]] and the [[BigBad major source of Fabletown's corruption]]. Controlling much of Fabletown's supply of glamour, the Crooked Man uses desperate citizens' needs to manipulate them into indebting themselves to him, at which point he [[LoanShark forces them to repay him with outrageous prices]], having them killed if they can't pay him back. The Crooked Man also runs the Puddin' N' Pie strip club, which is a front for his prostitution ring where the girls are forced to be sex workers under threat of decapitation by magical ribbons which also magically prevent them from speaking, using Georgie Porgie as a pimp, and forcing the beaten girls to work in his sweatshops. When [[PlayerCharacter Sheriff Bigby Wolf]] confronts him, the Crooked Man tries to pin everything on Georgie and tries to have Bigby killed. After being arrested, and ultimately found guilty, The Crooked Man attempts to throw Bigby down the Witching Well.

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[[FauxAffablyEvil seemingly-benevolent Crooked Man]] is a [[TheDon ruthless crime boss]] and the [[BigBad major source of Fabletown's corruption]]. Controlling much of Fabletown's supply of glamour, the Crooked Man uses desperate citizens' needs to manipulate them into indebting themselves to him, at which point he [[LoanShark forces them to repay him with outrageous prices]], having them killed if they can't pay him back. The Crooked Man also runs the Puddin' N' Pie strip club, which is a front for his prostitution ring where the girls are forced to be sex workers under threat of decapitation by magical ribbons which also magically prevent them from speaking, using Georgie Porgie as a pimp, and forcing the beaten girls to work in his sweatshops. When [[PlayerCharacter Sheriff Bigby Wolf]] confronts him, the Crooked Man tries to pin everything on Georgie and tries to have Bigby killed. After being arrested, and ultimately found guilty, The Crooked Man attempts to throw Bigby down the Witching Well.Well.
**In the comic prequel, [[ItsAllAboutMe The Knave of Hearts]] is a [[HeManWomanHater vile misogynist]] responsible for the creation of Bloody Mary thanks to his torment of her. Wanted by the Wonderland authorities for thievery, the Knave plans to escape any form of justice by selling a glass baby on the BlackMarket in exchange for an escape from law enforcement. Seducing dozens of women via mirrors across the world, the Knave supernaturally impregnates them all in the hopes their reflections will birth his glass baby, turning downright [[DomesticAbuse abusive]] to his lovers even as the pregnancy process usually kills them. When young Mary comes closest to successfully completing her birthing, the Knave grows impatient and [[TraumaticCSection carves the glass baby right out of Mary]], tearing out the umbilical cord with his teeth and leaving the gutted, traumatized Mary for dead. The Knave is flippant to the fact that his glass baby will be destroyed as part of his deal to save his own hide, and even when his plans are foiled, the Knave goes on to gain a new lover for him to abuse and [[DrivenToSuicide drive a victim of the Crooked Man's to suicide]].
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* FoeYay: For whatever reason, Bloody Mary felt the need to pounce on top of Bigby before punching him in the face.
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* CultClassic: While the other visual adventure games by Telltale were also well received, many of them depended of the fame of the property they came from. Like Game of Thrones, The Walking dead or more mainstream DC comics properties, Fables is not unknown but its presence is comparatively minuscule, that paired with an incredibly stylish design and a solid plot and characters, guarantees its cult classic place amongst that era of Telltale games..

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* CultClassic: While the other visual adventure games by Telltale were also well received, many of them depended of the fame of the property they came from. Like Game of Thrones, The Walking dead Dead or more mainstream DC comics properties, Fables is not unknown but its presence is comparatively minuscule, that paired with an incredibly stylish design and a solid plot and characters, guarantees its cult classic place amongst that era of Telltale games..
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** In a closely related vein, entitlement and unreasonable expectations of aid from the little people to government is addressed. Bigby constantly gets yelled at for not helping people when they first got in tight spots, when often those same people didn't call him in the first place, and [[BeAsUnhelpfulAsPossible were uncooperative when he was tring to solve the problem]].

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** In a closely related vein, entitlement and unreasonable expectations of aid from the little people to government is addressed. Bigby constantly gets yelled at for not helping people when they first got in tight spots, when often those same people didn't call him in the first place, and [[BeAsUnhelpfulAsPossible were uncooperative when he was tring trying to solve the problem]].
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* CultClassic: While the other visual adventure games by Telltale were also well received, many of them depended of the fame of the property they came from. Like Game of Thrones, The Walking dead or more mainstream DC comics properties, Fables is not unknown but its presence is comparatively minuscule, that paired with an incredibly stylish design and a solid plot and characters, guarantees its cult classic place amongst that era of Telltale games..
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* HateSink: Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum are complete assholes with few redeeming qualities, going as far as to threaten Mr. Toad’s son and crash a funeral just to piss off the local Fables. They are designed to be hated by the player. [[spoiler:The closest they get to seeing justice is if the player chooses to kill Dee in Chapter 3]], which very few feel bad about.

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* {{Anvilicious}}/SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The driving force of the story is the social divide between the rich and poor, and the government's failure to answer the needs of the latter. Ironically, this differentiates from Bill Willingham's conservative views that also include the notions of limited government.

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The driving force of the story is the social divide between the rich and poor, and the government's failure to answer the needs of the latter. Ironically, this differentiates from Bill Willingham's conservative views that also include the notions of limited government.



*** In a closely related vein, entitlement and unreasonable expectations of aid from the little people to government is addressed. Bigby constantly gets yelled at for not helping people when they first got in tight spots, when often those same people didn't call him in the first place, and [[BeAsUnhelpfulAsPossible were uncooperative when he was trying to solve the problem]].

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*** ** In a closely related vein, entitlement and unreasonable expectations of aid from the little people to government is addressed. Bigby constantly gets yelled at for not helping people when they first got in tight spots, when often those same people didn't call him in the first place, and [[BeAsUnhelpfulAsPossible were uncooperative when he was trying tring to solve the problem]].



*** And it seems that the government is understaffed, because the only people who can financially support it (ie, Bluebeard) are the ones who also have their own agenda. The inefficiency of the government leads to corruption (ie, Crane pocketing extra cash), which in turn leads to the poorer citizens turning elsewhere to sustain themselves.

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*** ** And it seems that the government is understaffed, because the only people who can financially support it (ie, Bluebeard) are the ones who also have their own agenda. The inefficiency of the government leads to corruption (ie, Crane pocketing extra cash), which in turn leads to the poorer citizens turning elsewhere to sustain themselves.



** In the ending, [[spoiler: Mr. Toad is sent to the farm regardless of your own decision in the matter, and even if you gave him money to pay for a glamour]]. Some feel that this is an utter copout for Telltale like the decision didn't even matter, while others feel it's another [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped anvilicious lesson]] about how government works and how sometimes, good intentioned workers get their hands tied by the system they work in. It's also worth noting that in the comics Toad was living at the farm, so he was destined to end up there regardless.

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** In the ending, [[spoiler: Mr. Toad is sent to the farm regardless of your own decision in the matter, and even if you gave him money to pay for a glamour]]. Some feel that this is an utter copout for Telltale like the decision didn't even matter, while others feel it's another [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped anvilicious lesson]] lesson about how government works and how sometimes, good intentioned workers get their hands tied by the system they work in. It's also worth noting that in the comics Toad was living at the farm, so he was destined to end up there regardless.

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* PortingDisaster: The Xbox 360 version of the game's season pass wasn't tested well, it seems- when Episode 2 came out, players discovered that they couldn't access the option that let them get Episode 2 for free. Cue backlash, especially from Irish and Kiwi gamers who were still sore over ''The Walking Dead''.
** Thankfully, the remaining episodes afterwards were shipped without problems.

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* PortingDisaster: The Xbox 360 version of the game's season pass game wasn't tested well, well.
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it seems- seems when Episode 2 came out, players discovered that they couldn't access the option that let them get Episode 2 for free. Cue backlash, especially from Irish and Kiwi gamers who were still sore over ''The Walking Dead''.
** Thankfully, When the remaining episodes afterwards disc version was released, anyone who bought it immediately discovered that it was extremely laggy, to the point of being literally unplayable. Cutscenes were shipped without problems.extremely jittery, QuickTimeEvents would disappear before you even saw them, making action scenes unwinnable in most cases.
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*** All the options to permanently deal with the Crooked Man are very satisfying. If you take the non-violent option he will be [[spoiler: [[AndIMustScream turned in a bird and unable to speak]], and while most players will probably find the option to tear off his head in front of everyone too brutal, there is still the option to throw him down the Witching Well after he makes one last desperate attempt to kill Bigby. Heck, if you’re okay with the town and Snow White being mad at you, you don't even have to take the Crooked Man in, you can just strangle him right on the spot if you are so inclined]].

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*** All the options to permanently deal with the Crooked Man are very satisfying. If you take the non-violent option he will be [[spoiler: [[AndIMustScream turned in a bird and unable to speak]], and while most players will probably find the option to tear off his head in front of everyone too brutal, there is still the option to throw him down the Witching Wishing Well after he makes one last desperate attempt to kill Bigby. Heck, if you’re okay with the town and Snow White being mad at you, you don't even have to take the Crooked Man in, you can just strangle him right on the spot if you are so inclined]].
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*** All the options to permanently deal with the Crooked Man are very satisfying. If you take the non-violent option he will be [[spoiler: [[AndIMustScream turned in a bird and unable to speak]], and while most players will probably find the option to tear off his head in front of everyone too brutal, there is still the option to throw him down the witching well killing him after he makes one last desperate attempt to kill Bigby. Heck, if your okay with the town and Snow White being mad at you, you don't even have to take the Crooked Man in, you can just strangle him right on the spot if you are so inclined]].

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*** All the options to permanently deal with the Crooked Man are very satisfying. If you take the non-violent option he will be [[spoiler: [[AndIMustScream turned in a bird and unable to speak]], and while most players will probably find the option to tear off his head in front of everyone too brutal, there is still the option to throw him down the witching well killing him Witching Well after he makes one last desperate attempt to kill Bigby. Heck, if your you’re okay with the town and Snow White being mad at you, you don't even have to take the Crooked Man in, you can just strangle him right on the spot if you are so inclined]].
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*** All the options to permanently deal with the Crooked Man are very satisfying. If you take the non-violent option he will be [[spoiler: [[AndIMustScream turned in a bird and unable to speak]], and while most players will probably find the option to tear off the the his head in front of everyone too brutal, there is still the option to throw him down the witching well killing him after he makes one last desperate attempt to kill Bigby. Heck, if your okay with the town and Snow White being mad at you, you don't even have to take the Crooked Man in, you can just strangle him right on the spot if you are so inclined]].

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*** All the options to permanently deal with the Crooked Man are very satisfying. If you take the non-violent option he will be [[spoiler: [[AndIMustScream turned in a bird and unable to speak]], and while most players will probably find the option to tear off the the his head in front of everyone too brutal, there is still the option to throw him down the witching well killing him after he makes one last desperate attempt to kill Bigby. Heck, if your okay with the town and Snow White being mad at you, you don't even have to take the Crooked Man in, you can just strangle him right on the spot if you are so inclined]].


* MostAnnoyingSound: Although they're scary in appearance and even sound, [[spoiler: The Bloody Mary clones' hisses and sounds of glass heard can very annoying rather quickly since it's the same sound repeated over and over again. Made even worse by the fact the hissing and glass have echo effects. Though this probably makes it more satisfying when you destroy them as Bigby in his true wolf form.]]
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** The Jersey Devil has also gotten this thanks to his [[BestBossEver boss fight]]

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*** It especially cathartic to keep punching Georgie [[spoiler: even while he's bleeding to death after the reveal that he was the one who murdered Faith and Lilly. You can even chose to tell him that he deserves worse and he won't even argue, with the prompt saying he will take that to his grave]].



*** All the options to permanently deal with the Crooked Man are very satisfying. If you take the non-violent option he will be [[spoiler: [[AndIMustScream turned in a bird and unable to speak]], and while most players will probably find the option to tear off the the his head in front of everyone too brutal, there is still the option to throw him down the witching well killing him after he makes one last desperate attempt to kill Bigby. Heck, if your okay with the town and Snow White being mad at you, you don't even have to take the Crooked Man in, you can just strangle him right on the spot if you are so inclined]].



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Bluebeard seems to be getting this treatment a bit, due at least in part to sharing the same voice actor as Lee Everett from ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead''.

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Bluebeard seems to be getting this treatment a bit, due at least in part to sharing the same voice actor as Lee Everett from ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead''.''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead''.
** The Jersey Devil has also gotten this thanks to his [[BestBossEver boss fight]]

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