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YMMV / Scum

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  • Anvilicious: The first two versions of Scum are very much this, though not entirely without justification. To non Britons, it should be noted that the Borstal system was abolished in 1982. However, Archer seems to have essentially been designed to provide Author Tract and Author Filibuster. Dog Pound isn't quite as Anvilicious.... at least until the very end, when the riot police show up.
  • Crosses the Line Twice: The scene where Davis brags about fucking his girlfriend's mom.
  • It's the Same, Now It Sucks!: A good chunk of the criticisms level toward Dog Pound were this (well, at least on IMDB; the actual critical consensus toward it was generally positive). Naturally, the rest of the criticism was They Changed It, Now It Sucks.
    • Roy Minton, who wrote both versions of Scum, thought this about the film, insofar as they cast a lot of the same actors that had been in the TV version two years earlier (in particular Ray Winstone, John Blundell and Phil Daniels.) Minton thought it was more upsetting to see guys barely out of their teens being that violent; when they were 20 or older, it seemed less unnatural.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: Ray Winstone came to feel that he'd done this for the movie version of Scum. In the original Carlin is shown to be in a relationship with another inmate, but on remaking the film two years later he told the director that he thought it'd be better if that were left out, so it was. He later came to regret this, blaming it on his own insecurity as a young man.
  • Jerkass Woobie: In Dog Pound, Goodyear definitely seems to be this by the end.
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  • Nightmare Fuel / Tearjerker: The rape scene and the suicide scenes involving Davis definitely qualify.
  • The Woobie: Davis. DEAR GOD DAVIS! Each version seems to delight in finding new ways to woobify him.

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