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  • Accidental Innuendo: In "Game Of Thrones Hot Takes" she describes later season's habit of Pandering to the Base as Fanservice. Any troper will be familiar with the original (Western) meaning of the term...
  • Author's Saving Throw:
    • She has gone on record to say that she regretted the crossover review of Moulin Rouge! because Doug wrote it and her lines were his opinions - since she actually enjoys the film. In her essay of Phantom of the Opera she talks more positively about Moulin Rouge! and why it works as a film.
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    • Her Nostalgia Chick review of Hercules earned a lot of criticism for its mocking tone - despite her saying that it was flawed but she still liked it. In her video essay on Hercules she gets very technical on why she feels it doesn't work, while also praising its good points.
    • It is highly recommended for viewers to follow her on Twitter as any divisive statements she has made in her videos will receive follow-ups or change opinion later on. Even in this very wiki any entries/opinions on certain subjects will get deleted due to her rotating opinions on her latest Twitter post.
    • A more humorous instance of this; in her Loose Canon retrospective on The Phantom of the Opera, she notes an amusing moment in the 1990 miniseries where Erik punches a fake deer in the face, but her jokenote  flubs up due to a misplaced edit. Years later in "The Most Whitewashed Character In Literary History", while re-summarizing the material from said Loose Canon video, she takes the opportunity to play the joke correctly this time.
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  • Awesome Music: The "Orc Cop Rap" by Masta Artisan aka The Rap Critic from the the review of Bright.
  • Bizarro Episode: "YouTube: Manufacturing Authenticity (For Fun and Profit!)" is much more stylised and surreal than her usual output — featuring a lot of Retraux and ContraPoints-style production to go with her analysis. So far, it's also the only time she's ever analysed online content as the main topic.
  • Critical Research Failure: On her Loose Canon video on the Wicked Witch of the West, she claims that MGM still owns the rights to 1939's The Wizard of Oz... except they don't anymore. Warner Bros. have owned the rights since MGM sold most of their Turner catalog to them in the late 90's. She also confuses the release dates of the Wicked Broadway musical and the similarly-titled, but totally unrelated movie Wicked (1998).
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  • Growing the Beard: While The Nostalgia Chick is generally well-liked by most, many agree that Lindsay's more serious and investigative post-Chick material is a huge leap in quality. Lindsay herself has advised viewers not to watch any of her work from before 2015.note  Specifically, her remake of her Hercules video seems to have been a major jumping-on point for new fans. Her Game of Thrones two-part rant earned her new fans in 2019.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: Multiple:
    • In this video talking about film school with Dan Olson, Lindsay lays some shade at unnamed "exploitative assholes" she used to work for on sets that were "a total shitshow." Following the publicity surrounding the #ChangeTheChannel controversies more than a year later... it's pretty obvious in hindsight who she was referring to.
    • Her old Blonde Girls video as Nostalgia Chick where she calls Kesha's music a Guilty Pleasure and questions how good a message her Hard-Drinking Party Girl image is sending to her fans. She draws attention to this in her third video on The Hobbit that - once she discovered the circumstances under which that image was manufactured - she could no longer enjoy the music the way she used to.
    • The Loose Canon video on Santa Claus has a line where she says she's not someone who loves the innocence and nostalgia of childhood. Again her videos on The Hobbit are partly about her discovering that The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit were made under the exploitation of the New Zealand film industry - and that she wishes she could feel the same way she did as a child when she watched the original trilogy.
    • In her video on Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame, Lindsay puts forth the argument that Disney radically changing the moral of Victor Hugo's original novel is justified because Hugo's original message — a call for the Notre Dame cathedral to be renovated and preserved — had already been heard and accomplished. Less than two years after the video came out, the real Notre Dame caught fire due to a mishap involving its constant renovations and was only barely saved from total destruction. A line where Lindsay notes the historical inaccuracy of Quasimodo in the film climbing on a spire that wasn't erected until the 1800s in real life hits particularly hard since that very spire collapsed in the fire and is no longer there.
    • In her video on Pocahontas, before talking about cultural appropriation, she makes a joke "RIP comment section" that at the time was black comedy about the inevitable flame war that would probably result from even mentioning the topic. However in 2018, Lindsay was the victim of an online harassment and smear campaign that led to her conspicuously disappearing from YouTube for a while. She gave a a talk at the XOXO convention detailing her experiences with this smear campaign, also revealing that she no longer reads the comments on her videos for the sake of her mental health.
  • He Panned It, Now He Sucks!: Not as much as her time as the Nostalgia Chick, but Lindsay isn't immune to this either:
    • The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes! fans don't seem too happy that Lindsay called the show "unremarkable" in her Captain America Loose Canon video.
    • Her very short quip about Ready Player One in "The Upside Down of Nostalgia" earned her a disproportionate amount of backlash.
    • Some fans of Bright weren't too keen on her video explaining why it didn't work as a movie.
    • She got a lot of flack for a comment made in the Pocahontas video where she criticised Disney for featuring heroic white characters in The Princess and the Frog, where she seems to be implying that the movie ignores the racism of the time altogether (it doesn'tnote ) and that Lottie and her father are somehow Mighty Whiteys - which they aren't - and the story features numerous other white characters that aren't heroic. Several comments pointed out that making a story darker doesn't automatically make it better.
    • The Pocahontas video itself - though this was a more divisive reaction. Rather a lot of comments criticised her views on the movie - particularly her accusation that "Pocahontas falls in love with the first white man she sees", which ignores that Pocahontas tries to leave when John insults her and her people. Her comments about stereotyping in Moana were met with a similar reaction.
    • As mentioned before, she gotta lot of flak for her Hercules review, even when she made a separate video clarifying her views people felt she was overly harsh. Her comment of “everyone knows it sucks” especially drew ire considering how many consider the film to be one of Disney’s most underrated movies.
    • Inverted for her views on Captain Marvel (2019) and discussed on Twitter. It took her forever to admit that she disliked the film, as she didn't want to get "hugboxed by a bunch of misogynists".
    • Discussed in her epilogue to "YouTube: Manufacturing Authenticity (For Fun and Profit!)", where she addresses the apparent misconception a number of her own critics have that analyzing something isn't the same as saying something negative about it and encourages viewers not to take everything at face value. Trolls ignored this and tried to launch a smear campaign against her when they "revealed" that she had a corporate sponsorship with the same people who made Man About Cake, calling her a hypocrite.
    • "Protest Music In The Bush Era" saw a little backlash from people who genuinely liked the music she was criticizing (music being a much more sensitive topic than film in general) and felt she didn't have much to say about it other than whether she liked or disliked it.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • Lindsay comments in her Loose Canon video about the Wicked Witch of the West that Disney's Oz productions of The New '10s take such obvious inspiration from MGM's The Wizard of Oz, that "Disney just wants the rights to the 1939 film so bad!" In 2017, The Wizard of Oz joined the library of the Disney-owned digital movie distribution service Movies Anywhere, via a deal to carry several Warner Bros.-owned films, including works MGM produced before getting bought by Ted Turner in 1986.
    • In her video on Disney villains, she makes a long, snarky speculation on the plot of Disney's then-to-be-released Gigantic based on their prominent recent fondness for self-subversion. This became a bit more amusing when it was later announced that Gigantic was shelved due to its creators hitting a creative brick wall.
    • In talking about the history of Award Bait for the Oscars she lists of a series of common factors, one of which includes being produced by the Weinsteins. This video was made in 2016, in 2017 Harvey Weinstein's career was decimated by the reporting of repeated sexual predator behavior. Given the context of her comment was on the snarky side already (and later talking about the boys club issues with the MPAA), it was far more relevant than she intended.
    • Her first Game of Thrones video presents Jon Snow and Daenerys's love story as a trailer for a fluffy Romantic Comedy. Emilia Clarke's first notable role after the show ended was the romantic comedy Last Christmas, and she had already done Me Before You.
    • Back in her Nostalgia Chick days, she made a Self-Deprecation joke when reviewing She-Ra asking who would be interested in a Distaff Counterpart who's a "shameless knockoff of her more popular male counterpart" (referencing that she was introduced to be the female counterpart to the Nostalgia Critic). But towards the end of The New '10s - especially regarding the downfall of Channel Awesome as a whole - Lindsay's popularity has indeed surpassed anything she ever did back then.
  • Hollywood Pudgy: On Twitter she's spoken about how frequently she's been attacked over her weight, or not being as thin as she was in her Nostalgia Chick days. She's at a perfectly healthy and normal size for a woman in her mid-30s, and attributes some weight gain to the above-mentioned online smear campaign.
  • More Popular Spin-Off: Her video essays are this in relation to her old show. In particular, they usually get plenty of upvotes on r/movies, usually with reactions like "why wasn't she making these in the first place?" In fact, one of the main reasons it was an Old Shame for her is that she admits real critical analysis was what she wanted to do, rather than the method of "comically summarize and nitpick movie everyone already knows is bad" that she had to do before.
  • Most Wonderful Sound: In the video for The Hunchback of Notre Dame, the part where she insists Phoebus and Esmerelda ending up together is okay. Specially she says "this is fine" over and over in the most Adorkable way.
  • Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped:
    • A recurring one that gets dropped a lot is that (contrary to popular belief), media criticism is not intended to shame people for liking certain things, especially if it addresses Unfortunate Implications in regards to things like gender or race. It is important to think critically about the media you consume though.
    • In her video of the Beauty & the Beast remake she makes the very good point that pedantic nitpicking is not the same as critical analysis, and the resulting negative impact it can have on media.
    • Her last video for her three-part review of The Hobbit also drops the important message that accepting that the makers of your favorite entertainment have done something morally objectionable is not the same as accepting when people in any other business do it simply because entertainment, by default, requires the audience to trust its creator with their emotions.
    • The entire point of her Independence Day vs. War of the Worlds video is to definitively say that simple entertainment (the former) can still be satisfying if it's structurally functional and that a Darker and Edgier movie isn't automatically more sophisticated, let alone good, if it's structurally unsound.
    • She raises a good point in the first Game of Thrones video when addressing Unfortunate Implications in general.
      No piece of media is ever going to be ideologically pure, and it's unrealistic to expect that.
    • Similar to the above, "Woke Disney" emphasizes that simply identifying something problematic about an old movie is meaningless in and of itself without any other direction to go in, and that doing nothing beyond covering up what's considered offensive about it by modern standards with Politically Correct History doesn't "fix" these problems so much as make them more offensive because it implies that the problematic aspects never existed while also sucking out everything that made those films classics despite their problems.
      You've taken step one and identified the problem. What do you want to do with that? Are you the guy in that Onion article that likes to bring up that John Lennon used to beat his wife? Do you want to drag the company that made the thing through the street? Do you want to wave it off and say it was a product of its time?
    • "Why is Cats?": cinema, especially realistically-grounded live-action cinema, is not the be all, end all entertainment medium because there are some stories that can only be told in a different medium, and shoehorning a work that wasn't created for live-action film (in this case, musical theater) into live-action film doesn't automatically make the work more prestigious so much as play to live-action films' weaknesses and make the film industry look elitist.
  • Unconventional Learning Experience: Invoked. Lindsey has half-jokingly claimed that she wants to turn video essays into a legitimate form of education, largely to "save you from the student debt". Indeed, one can learn lots about film theory, production and writing from watching The Whole Plate.


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