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  • Acceptable Targets: Politicians. He makes fun of right-wing politics many times, which is ironic since in real life, he is more or less open about being right-wing himself. He has even collaborated several times with Usul, a leftwing youtuber who notably wrote the Tropico V narrative let's play. He also takes little shots at French trade unions and such, though.
  • Award Snub: One of the many people not even nominated for the Web Comedy Awards in 2014.
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  • Awesome Music: Many different kinds of music are used during his episodes, which always leads to commenters asking "What is the music from this part from?" Fortunately, nowadays the music shows up in the credits.
  • Bizarro Episode: The two-part Takeshi's Challenge episode features a different opening, an opening narration in Fred's... approximate Japanesenote  that has nothing to do with the game in the first part, a frantic pacing, out-of-nowhere references and a very wacky tone, in line with the game itself.
  • Broken Base: The comedy/storyline skits in his reviews. They have both their fans and detractors.
  • Critical Research Failure:
    • In the Asterix and the Great Rescue review, he says that the Roman disguised as a tree is something that happened in the "first Asterix". Romans in tree disguises didn't appear in the series until The Big Fight. However, some Romans did use the Mobile Shrubbery tactic in the first Asterix book.
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    • One video mentions THQ as being the makers of Warhammer 40,000 (they made Dawn of War, not the parent verse). JdG was only talking about the video games here. (Not knowing there are maybe other 40k video games than Dawn of War.)
    • In his superhero special, he wears an afro and a disco remix of his theme song starts. Except that it fails because before that, he talks about the 60s Batman: The Movie. Disco's first appearance was in the mid-70s.
    • In his Black & White review, he keeps calling the game "Black and White", despite the title of the video, the box of the game and clips from it showing he's talking about the second one.
    • In "De la 2D à la 3D", he calls Fox McCloud Starfox.
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    • When he criticizes the bad voice quality in Virtual Hydlide, he says that NES games had better audio, and then he shows a video clip of Ikari Warriors II where a villain screams "You can't escape me!" except this clip is from the Arcade version.
    • In the Half-Life Papy Grenier, one of the clips he uses (when talking about the G-man) comes from the Expansion Pack Opposing Force.
    • When he reviews Drake of the 99 Dragons in the Xbox episode, he says that the character design was done by Bruce Timm. Timm had no involvement with the game: the creators just mimicked his style.
    • The Rambo video has Co dress up and impersonate an officer's wife. Despite the game reading "general's wife" right there in white on black, they keep referring to her as the captain's wife.
    • In the "Mondo TV" episode, during the sequence reviewing Pocahontas: Princess of the American Indians, he critizes the seemingly absurd character design of American Indian gods encountered by a character; while non-sensical by Western standards, those characters actually look like representations of Hopi deities (Fred even introduce the scene by mentioning the character is Hopi.).
    • In the Papy Grenier about Metal Gear Solid, he pokes fun at the fact Sniper Wolf calls herself Kurdish desping being a pale skinned, blue-eyed blonde. Some commenters irritatedly pointed out that blond Kurds are actually not that uncommon.
    • In his 2000s cartoon special, he criticizes Code Lyoko's use of Recruit Teenagers with Attitude by pointing out that realistically, the characters should stop playing with a dangerous supercomputer and just call responsible adults already to handle the whole thing. However, the reason the protagonists aren't doing this is addressed very early on in the show, and is in fact a major plot point- they are concerned adults would want to shut down and dismantle the supercomputer right away with Aelita still on Lyoko, thus sacrificing her, when they would rather find a way to save her first and then shut it down. This is especially jarring in that the footage he shows while raising this point is from the very episode where it was explained.
    • In the Ecco the Dolphin episode, Fred depicts John C. Lilly, one of the inspirations of the game, as some sect guru who thinks Earth is controlled by an alien race called ECCO, took drugs and had sex with dolphins. Actually, he thinks that E.C.C.O. is a command center belonging to a greater ensemble controlled by cosmic entities. And concerning his works about dolphins, he never had sex with them, the closest thing from a sexual intercourse with dolphins was one of his coworkers who masturbated a male dolphin to relieve his urges.
    • In the review of The Fifth Element videogame adaptation, Fred mocks the plot by pointing how unplausible a mere cab driver is to become an epic action hero. Korben isn't just a cab driver, he's actually a former elite commando who became a cab driver once retired, and he's tasked for the mission to retrieve the stones by the government, with the Gemini croquettes contest he "wins" being rigged to that end.
  • Crosses the Line Twice:
    • "Those drawings are as bad as my little sister's.' And my little sister is DEAD! I KILLED her because her drawings SUCKED!"
    • Seb as the Joker cutting someone's fingers off... and replacing them with sausages. The victim later finds himself unable to resist eating his new 'fingers' because they are simply too delicious.
    Marius: It's at the same time painful... and delicious... (eats one of the sausages)
    • Most of the things Papy Grenier does or says. At one point, he shoots one of his grandkids to see if people react like in the N64 Goldeneye videogame when they're shot and seems genuinely surprised that it's not the case. Then he tells the other kids to search some bandage to tend the wound. He also tried to convince his daughter to abort and wants to tell the story to the grandchildren, may have killed and buried a child in his backyard, keeps the skull of someone on him (thinking it was his father's), and, in general, he revels in abusing Videogame Cruelty Potential For the Evulz.
    • In his Civilization Let's Plays, he once again abuses the Videogame Cruelty Potential For the Evulz. And while as Napoleon he at least showed Pragmatic Villainy from time to time; as Catherine de Medicis, he doesn't.
    • His The Guild narrative Let's Play stars a dynasty of merchants scheming and murdering their way into power in ways that wouldn't be out of place in Game of Thrones. All of it is played for laughs.
    • At the end of the first review of games adapted from comic books, Duckman and the Eagle of the Night end up maiming a class of fourth graders playing laser tags, thinking they are the Big Bad's henchmen. They're not, and even the Big Bad is apalled by their needless brutality!
    • The second comic episode starts with Barbara Magret saying she wants to help with capturing supervillains, and Magret telling her "Tu peux toujours courir." It's a common French expression to express a blunt refusal, but it also literally means "run if you want." It doesn't seem like much until you realize he says that to his wheelchaired daughter.
  • Ear Worm: From the second Man Enough video: "C'était une métaphore", Fred's revenge for having to sit through short loops of bad MIDI music in other games.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse: Since he started to appear in the videos, Seb has become just as popular as Fred, if not more.
  • Fridge Horror: At the end of the Stranded Deep narrative let's play, he manages to find a small gyrocopter, make fuel for it from potatoes and determine his exact position (the coordinates he gives are about 500km east of Florida, right in the Bermuda Triangle). He leaves his island, smiles to the audience and the series ends. A perfectly happy ending right? Except when you realize that, with how fast the gyrocopter's fuel meter is decreasing, he's not gonna reach Florida anytime soon.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:
    • Sort of. In the Raid 2020 review, the Joueur du Grenier makes fun of the game catchphrase ("Winner fight drugs") by showing a photograph of Lance Armstrong while saying "except him". Armstrong was stripped of his winning titles on the Tour de France (because of doping and after a very long suspicion) a few weeks after the release of the video. It should be noted that, while Armstrong was proved of doping himself after the video was released, almost everyone took for granted that it was the case.
    • In the Star Wars episode in December 2015, there's a joke about a resistance soldier with the code-name Charlie − "Charlie! Where are you? We've lost Charlie!"note  Willy Gauchet, the actor who played Charlie, passed away a few months later at the age of 24 (an In Memoriam was included at the end of the Matrix episode).
  • Gateway Series: His original intention for making the show, because he wanted to introduce more people to AVGN and the kind. So far, it seems like he's succeeded as long as the French are concerned.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: In the Rambo video, one of the old youtubers he mention as being "dead" is TheFantasio974. Two days later, Fanta made his last video, saying he quit youtube.
  • He Panned It, Now He Sucks!:
    • His "vrac" game on Garfield has him saying how much he hates Garfield (although it was his Grenier persona, his real self just doesn't care about Garfield) got a lot of backslash. He even spent most of his first Tomb Raider LP setting the record straight.
    • Some people felt that his post-Genesis Sonic bashing (including using the expression "shitty friends" for every character not Sonic or Dr. Robotnik/Eggman) in his "2D to 3D" episode and his second video game adaptions special was really not warranted. And it didn't help that he also bashed Sonic SatAM (by calling Sally Sonic's "furry girlfriend from a comic-con" and calling the other characters pointless).
    • Let's just say that Fred and Seb calling the Metal Gear games "B-movies" during their Gamescom debrief didn't bode well with the fans.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • His My Little Pony parody "Battle for Pony Land" made before the season finale of the fourth season of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic that does show a war between ponies.
    • Early in his career, Fred made a special episode (not available in the channel) where he continuously gave genuine praise to Aladdin (Virgin Games) while keeping his usual angry tone and actingnote . In 2019, Aladdin was reviewed in a regular Jeux en Vrac episode.
    • The review of Asterix and the Great Rescue starts with a parody of the usual opening of the Asterix books and animated adaptation, with the Gauls' village replaced by Fred's face and the Roman forts replaced by (then) current-gen consoles. This video is one of the first of the channel and has been released while Fred and Seb lived in Southwestern France. A few years later, they moved to live in Fougères, a town located in North-East of Brittany, so in the general area where Asterix's village was supposed to be found.
  • I Am Not Shazam: During the whole Links: Faces of Evil episode, he calls the wizard Gwonam "Squadala", thanks to one of his lines in the opening cutscene of the game.
  • Inherently Funny Words:
    • Grenier pronouncing "Hydlide" as id-leed.
    • His insistance on pronouncing "Gear" with a soft "g", because he had been too influenced by Game Gear console French ads that pronounced it such.
    • The way he pronounces Suikoden is kinda weird too.
    • He pronounces "Evil" as "é-vil".
    • In general, his way of pronouncing English words while keeping a French accent, especially in his oldest videos.
  • It's Short, So It Sucks!: Another complaint he talked about is that if his Jeux en Vrac (a short review of a game he doesn't have time on his regular review) only takes 3 minutes to talk it's gonna be a 3 minutes video since the whole point of it was that the main channel got him stuck in a format and Bazar du Grenier is for video not limited by that.
  • Memetic Mutation: David Goodenough.note 
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: The Zelda-themed Papy Grenier received a lot of criticisms from fans since instead of old Papy Grenier telling a story, it is a fake news report broadcasted on television.
  • They Copied It, So It Sucks!: When his first videos appeared, many viewers accused him of being an AVGN knockoff. It didn't help he copied a bit too much of Rolfe's trademarks... but now he has Grown the Beard (not literally, he already had one) and many French gamers prefer him over AVGN (and that doesn't include the language barrier).

    It's worth mentioning that at first he made sure not to review games already reviewed by Rolfe, a decision that has helped him avoid this trope for the most part. So far, the games he reviewed that Rolfe had reviewed before are justified by being as infamous in France as they were in the US back in the day. An exception is The Legend of Zelda: Faces of Evil, which was highly requested by the viewers. While reviewing these games, he avoided the issues Rolfe had covered as much as he could (the fact that AVGN didn't get too far in some of these games helped a lot, since JdG had a lot to say about these games' later levels). Also, some of the more obscure games (like Dark Castle and Barbie) were reviewed by JdG long before AVGN got to them. Fred admitted that he started to look a bit more in the AVGN's repertoire around 2015-16, when it became hard to find interesting bad games — though that's still a minority of the episodes.
  • Values Dissonance:
    • In the "Disney ripoffs" episode, he is at shock at a Pocahontas episode where a tribe has their nipples bloodily ripped off by hooked ropes, and finds it gruesome. He is later seen at a Buffalo Grill restaurantnote , kicking the totem pole. While this kind of joke can be seen as funny to his French audience, it would be much more controversial to an actual American audience as Native Americans are considered Unacceptable Targets nowadays.
    • In his Die Hard Trilogy review, he stops short of joking about the title screen, which shows two towers in flames, saying he has "no politically correct jokes" in store for this one. Three minutes later he proceeds to do a 9/11 joke anyway. Needless to say, an American audience wouldn't have laughed, but he doesn't have an American audience.
  • The Woobie: The worker played by Fred in the Frost Punk narrative Let's Play. Outside of the fact that he's stuck in a post-apocalyptic world where ice storms have ravaged the world and lives under the leadership of an Overseer of questionable competence, he loses his wife and later his daughter due to decisions made by the Overseer. He also has to put up with his captain's callous insensitivity towards their deaths. The series ends with him silently shooting his leader to death after having crossed the Despair Event Horizon.


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