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  • Accidental Aesop: If someone is really dangerous when angry, you should do your best to appease them, even if it means ignoring their already bad behavior, such as Haruhi's blackmail of the computer club.
  • Accidental Innuendo:
    • This quote from novel 8:
      Putting all her weight on my body, Haruhi then pushed me down to the floor. Haruhi rode me like a horse, getting in the mount position.
    • A British English exclusive example from the Disappearance: "His spunk was nice and all"
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    • And from Disappearance:
      Kyon: I haven't even tasted Haruhi's hot pot yet.
  • Adaptation Displacement: Wait, there are books? And there is a small group of fans who, upon discovering the novels, immediately think that the books are adapted from the anime and manga material, as opposed to the other way around.
  • Alternative Character Interpretation:
    • Good Lord. It would be faster to list characters who don't have followings with widely varied opinions. Not even Those Two Guys are immune. Has its own subpage.
    • Deliberately fueled by the author himself. Itsuki hints that both he and Mikuru are merely putting up acts in order to fit the personalities that Haruhi expects them to have. However, neither the show nor the novels have actually shown this to be true.
  • Arc Fatigue: The "Endless Eight" arc in the anime. Eight episodes (almost three hours) of the exact same events with minor variations, adapted out of a single short story. The visual style of each iteration came to reflect, and subsequently reinforce in viewers, the fatigue experienced by Nagato. While it makes sense from a narrative point of view, that doesn't stop some people from thinking it's still a huge pain to sit through.
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  • Author's Saving Throw: Though planned before base-breaking "Endless Eight" and character re-visualization in the anime, both producers and fans hoped the movie would be this. Whether it succeeded or not is up to debate; while it seems to have fixed part of the fanbase's rage, it certainly didn't save the franchise from ultimately dying.
  • Base-Breaking Character:
  • Better on DVD: The "Endless Eight" arc works better, or at least is less frustrating, on DVD. Knowing beforehand that the arc would end in eight episodes is a morale boost in comparison to the horror of waiting one week for a new episode, only to find an old one remade and having no idea how long this nightmare would last. You can also skip some episodes since nothing is really missed if you only watch the first, second, and last parts. Alternatively, if you do want to watch all eight episodes through, it's almost necessary to do so at once to appreciate their arguable charm point of how almost nothing is exactly the same twice.
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  • Broken Base: Endless Eight. To summarize each side's arguments: those for "Endless Eight" argue that the episodes are distinct because each is animated from scratch, and call it an incredibly effective illustration — if going through the loop eight times is grating on your nerves, imagine how Yuki feels). Those against "Endless Eight" call it meaningless filler with virtually-identical scripts that wasted almost an entire season on what was a single, brief story in the novels. Another criticism leveled at it was that, although Yuki outlined the minor variations of the countless loops, we never got to see most of them, making it even more boring than the plot itself needed it to be. And then, there are those who think that it was a waste of animation, but the fan meltdown was more hilarious than anything KyoAni could have animated, so it was worth it after all. The franchise, especially animated, has never been afraid to screw with viewer expectations so it was pretty much in keeping with the nature of the show. It's been compared to Monty Python's Flying Circus for a reason, after all. On the other hand, backlash against "Endless Eight" and Nagaru Tanigawa reaching George R. R. Martin level of Schedule Slip pretty much killed the show as an anime property.
  • Die for Our Ship:
    • Some Yuki/Kyon and Mikuru/Kyon shippers really hate Haruhi and will cheerfully Demonize her. Played with more literally in the series itself — if Kyon is too nice to Mikuru, Haruhi gets jealous and (unbeknownst to herself) uses her powers to rewrite reality.
    • Yuki and Mikuru get a bit of this as well. Apparently, it's due to backlash for Haruhi being Out of Focus in the last novels.
  • Ending Fatigue: The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya for some people, it goes on even after the resolution and it's almost three hours long. Though the fact that the epilogue contains one of Kyon's biggest Moments of Awesome in the series helps offset this.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse: Taniguchi, Tsuruya (and her superdeformed version, Churuya), Ryoko Asakura, and to a lesser degree Emiri.
  • Epileptic Trees: Lots of this in the fandom. But considering how often the animators screw around with the audience just for the sake of screwing around with the audience, it's understandable. This is made ten times worse by the fact that many very important plot points have been hinted at or foreshadowed in seemingly-innocuous small talk and apparently tangential commentary. This has, of course, led to people combing over every single bit of text and conversation to try and figure what is going on.
  • Even Better Sequel: Disappearance is often regarded as one of the best anime films in history, let alone being a successful follow-up to the original anime.
  • Evil Is Sexy:
    • Haruhi, at the beginning. Evil in that she is willing to blackmail a computer club president through false incrimination. Sexy when it comes to her appearance AND her Genki Girl personality.
  • Fandom Rivalry: Whatever you do, do not mention Haruhi Suzumiya in the same sentence as K-On! at 4chan and Sankaku Complex.
  • Fanon:
    • Haruhi is God. Most fans of the anime took Koizumi's speech in the 3rd chronological episode at face value, but other scenes in the novels and the anime (especially the 2009 version) cast doubt on it:
    • In the third chronological episode, when Koizumi tells Kyon that Haruhi is God, he presents it as the belief of the "higher-ups" in his Agency, and acknowledges that various people in the Agency have different ideas about how to deal with Haruhi. He also describes the theory as the "worst case scenario" that his Agency is acting to counter, which suggests that they're playing a form of Pascal's Wager: even if they're not certain whether Haruhi is God, they think it's just likely and dangerous enough that it's better not to risk the consequences of neglecting to placate her.
    • In the Sigh novel and anime, Asahina tells Kyon to be skeptical of Koizumi and his Agency's theories, and that the time travellers disagree with them. Nagato speculates on the time travelers' theories and their incompatibility with the espers', and hints that the Data Overmind believes something yet different about Haruhi. And to top it off, Koizumi himself also contradicts his earlier explanation that Haruhi is God, theorizing instead that Haruhi must be somebody chosen by God to fix the world.
    • In novel 9 we run into a whole three new factions, at least one of which (Kyoko Tachibana's espers) clearly disagrees with the assertion that Haruhi is God. Or at least she says they do.
    • There is a camp that believes Kyon is really the god-like being playing his (conscious and unconscious) fantasies out through Haruhi. Can anyone say "Freud must be laughing at me right now?"
  • Genius Bonus:
    • Did you know that the mathematical, physical and chemical formulas seen in the opening animation (Bouken Desho Desho) are positronium, Lambda baryons, benzene ring, cyclohexanes, infinite number, Titius-Bode law, Planck's constant, Drake equation, time-dependent Schrödinger equation, Hubble's law, infinite product, definition of information entropy, large numbers, stationary Schrödinger equation, the theory of relativity, probability axioms, definition of Laplace operator, the wave equation in one space dimension, and small numbers? (source: http://seinenramen.wordpress.com/2006/12/05/physicsmaths-in-suzumiya-haruhi/ ) Also, this wasn't just pulled out of a physics books, the writer Nagaru Tanigawa loves this stuff.
    • The novels have even more, with countless throwaway references to astrophysics and at least one in-depth discussion (and illustrations) of Euler's planar graph formula. And let's not even start about the time travel incidents that reach a complexity where you just want to overlook it. Koizumi even talks about time-lines and alternate realities at the same time, with some explanatory visuals.
    • Also, Dissociation mentions Yuki reading a book about "Mathematicians, Artists, Musicians, and their Interrelations". This is probably Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid, by Douglas Hofstadter. The book deals heavily with recursion, parallel worlds, and uncertainty. Suspiciously Apropos Literature or what?
    • Some careful observation reveals a bit of philosophy thrown in.
    • The rapid-fire speech capabilities of Yuki Nagato and Ryoko Asakura are actually human speech sped up 400%-500% and reversed. A few interesting things arose after decoding:
      • Yuki appears to be speaking in SQL.
      • Asakura asks Yuki, during their fight: "You love Kyon-kun, don't you? I know you have realized it."
  • Ho Yay:
    • Itsuki sometimes stands a little too close to Kyon for Kyon's peace of mind. Also, he is the only male path option in the visual novel The Perplexity of Haruhi Suzumiya.
    • Of course, there's Haruhi being all over Mikuru. And Yuki and Asakura, especially in Disappearance and in the way Asakura speaks of Yuki in the first part of Surprise.
    • A less one-sided example would be Yuki and Mikuru, which is particularly noticeable in "Remote Island Syndrome" and even more so in Scheme.
    • We then have Kyoko and Sasaki, what with Kyoko's worshipful attitude toward her, and Sasaki and Haruhi, what with Sasaki's worshipful attitude toward her.
  • Literary Agent Hypothesis: A popular fan theory is that the events portrayed are nothing more than an embellished retelling of author Nagaru Tanigawa's actual high-school experience, with all the supernatural happenings just added so that the series is distinguishable from all the other Slice of Life light novels and anime series out there. Of course, there is no evidence in the novels or anime whatsoever that this speculation is correct; it was probably inspired by the facts that Tanigawa refuses to reveal the real name of his First Person Narrator, that the unnamed city in which the events take place is described in just enough detail as to unmistakably be his hometown, and that he was, in fact, in a literature club back in high school.
  • Launcher of a Thousand Ships: Kyon, but this is probably intended.
  • Memetic Badass:
    • According to fans, Mikuru's Eye Beam attack is one of the most destructive forces in existence. Considering how many different variants on the "Mikuru Beam" ended up coming out of her eye (and eventually sealed away by Yuki), this is entirely possible.
    • Kyon's getting there himself, as exemplified at the end of Disappearance when he leads Yuki and Mikuru back in time to save his own life and ensure the return of their recognizable world. They may have weird powers, Haruhi may attract weirdness, but Kyon can MOBILIZE it.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • Tsuruya, aka Churuya, nyoro~n!
    • All the Hare Hare Yukai videos floating around YouTube.
    • WA-WA-WA-Wasuremono...
    • And the Gender Flip version, which has become so popular that it has even spawned doujinshi aside of fanarts and cosplay.
    • Kyon-kun, denwa~ Explanation 
    • We've entered an endless recursion of time. Explanation 
      • "Do your homework.", alternatively phrased as "JUST FINISH YOUR SUMMER HOMEWORK!" Explanation 
    • Still suffering from Shoushitsu Syndrome?note 
    • Everybody's Itsuki for Kyon! Explanation 
  • Moe:
    • Yuki's endearing lack of understanding towards Earth society, coupled with her quiet, innocent personality and her hidden kindness makes most people want to smother her with a big-giant-hug. Her small and cuddly appearance only serves to make her even more adorable. In fact, Yuki even made the Top 8 during Saimoe 2006, directly defeating both Mikuru and Haruhi.
    • Yuki in Disappearance is this trope cranked up to 11. Seriously, it has to be seen to be believed. This is acknowledged by Kyon in the novel. He thinks that Yuki is ridiculously cute when she starts blushing and fidgeting.
    • Ryoko does have a pretty cute smile and a nice figure. Because of this, she has quite a few fans, both in-universe (Taniguchi rates her as an "AA+ " on his good looking girls scale) and out (despite the knife tendencies).
    • Mikuru. She's called moe in-series for crying out loud!
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • In Surprise, either Kuyo's attempt on Kyon's life in Vol. 1, or crucifying Haruhi in mid-air on Fujiwara's orders in Vol. 2 pushed her over, but it's quite obvious she crossed it somewhere in it if she hadn't already by debilitating Yuki in Dissociation.
    • Attempted deicide pushed Fujiwara over the line at the climax of Surprise Vol. 2.
    • Kyon's reaction skirts dangerously close to the MEH as well, and as Koizumi pointed out, he WOULD have crossed it if he hit her. While Haruhi is a lot of things, the nature of her being inherently makes attacking her a really bad idea. It didn't help that he was only stopped by Mikuru begging him not do do it (keep in mind that she's the one he was doing it for in the first place). It makes things worse in the short term, as it's implied it was one of the causes for Haruhi's subsequent unraveling of reality in the making of the movie. Though, in the grand scheme of things, the two move past it, and his reaction may have actually led to some positive development on Haruhi's part.
  • Never Live It Down: Haruhi will never be able to get away from the reputation she established in the beginning; even if she gets Character Development from it, some fans will inevitably continue to see her as an irredeemable sociopath that never defrosts. Although, to be fair, most of the material in which she does defrost had not (and still has not) been animated yet, and the novels are still pretty niche in the Americas. Plus, Haruhi has not changed THAT much; it is just now she is more of a Jerk with a Heart of Gold (or just a jerk depending on interpretation) than the sociopathic asshat she was initially made out to be.
  • Ships That Pass in the Night: One can guarantee that there's a small faction for pairing up Mikuru and Itsuki together when all the main Kyon pairings are said and done. That said, they don't have many interactions that would count as shipping material, so it could fall squarely under this. Overlaps with Ship Mates though, as those who pair up Mikuru with Itsuki often pair up Kyon with either Haruhi or Yuki as well.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: Many fans reacted this way to the new opening and ending sequences created for the 2009 episodes. Admittedly, the old themes had three full years to become ingrained into the collective fan-consciousness, and the ending theme especially achieved godlike levels of popularity, spawning thousands of fan-made videos and animations. Fortunately the creators of the anime were seemingly aware that they could never top themselves, and avoided the temptation to try simply by coming up with something Completely Different (neither of the new themes feature any dancing whatsoever, and their visual styles are quite distinct from both each other and the old themes). In a lampshaded (in the Viral Marketing) instance, before fan complaints, the English dub was going to use the word "psychic" instead of "esper".
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: The infamous Endless Eight arc in the anime. Except for the last part of the arc, the SOS Brigade does almost the same thing during the two week loop. Other than the clothing they wear, some minor dialogue changes and hints of deja vu, the same things are shown, such as the Bon festival and the part time job. Nagato mentions that there were minor variances in a couple of the loops, where they didn't go to a festival, or they went but didn't do goldfish scooping, or performed different duties at the part time job such as stocking shelves or handling customer service calls. Since KyoAni spent considerable time and money animating all of those episodes, it would've broken up the monotony of showing the same thing eight times and made it more bearable for viewers.
  • Tough Act to Follow: Nagaru Tanigawa's later works are nowhere as popular as the Haruhi novels were.
  • Unintentionally Sympathetic: The Computer Club President reaches Sheldon J Plankton-levels of this. While it was wrong of them to cheat in their challenge of the SOS Brigade, it was to get back a computer Haruhi stole from them using cruel blackmail.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Both Haruhi and Kyon during the infamous scene in Sigh, Haruhi for drugging Mikuru and declaring her her toy, and Kyon for attempting to knock her out for doing so and refusing to feel the least bit sorry about it afterwards, even when the normal state of the world depends on him sucking it up and acknowledging he went too far.
  • The Woobie:
    • Mikuru. She gets uprooted from her friends, family and timeline, is thrown into a culture alien to her without any of the technology she's used to in the future, where she is constantly manipulated, kept out of the loop and emotionally abused by none other than her future self. Add to this the fact that before being sent back in time, she underwent mental conditioning preventing her from ever revealing anything details of her old life to any of her new friends, no matter how much she might want to. And all of this abuse came from the people she's supposed to be saving. As of the end of the 11th book, there is hope for Mikuru now, as Kyon secretly hopes to find a way to safely alter time so that Mikuru doesn't grow up to be like her manipulative future self.
    • Also Yuki Nagato, and to a lesser extent, Itsuki Koizumi in The Disappearance Of Haruhi Suzumiya. Hell, everywhere after Yuki's Hostile Show Takeover and during the "Endless Eight" arc.
    • Jerkass Woobie: Before the start of the series Haruhi painfully realises that her experiences are mundane and not anything special (which is what she desires the most in her life), and in her quest to make her life special, goes on the hunt for aliens, time travellers and ES Pers after some inspiration from Kyon. This leads to her general bluntness, and her obsession with cosplaying Mikuru. And all the exciting things she's hoped for ARE in her life, but she's Locked Out of the Loop!
    • Stoic Woobie: Yuki's normal brand of Woobie.
  • Woolseyism: The quote at the top of the main page more literally translated would have Haruhi asking for people from space, people from the future, people with special powers, and people from other worlds (although "alien" and "esper" are fairly standard translations of their respective Japanese terms).


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