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  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Darkseid won, and Batman is a servant of anti-life... featuring gratuitous political commentary and a few jabs at Grant Morrison.
  • Base-Breaking Character:
    • Damian Wayne. He has a loyal fandom, but also a very vocal hatedom. His death shattered his fandom into people who thought it was handled well and people who thought it was simply not okay.
    • Morrison's interpretation of Jason Todd is rather divisive, particularly among the character's long-time fans. Some people think it's one of his most interesting incarnations, and appreciate him for being an amusingly deranged foil to Dick. Others see him as a one-note jerk, and feel that he worked better as an antiheroic vigilante with a deadly streak.
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  • Broken Base: Batman driving Joe Chill to suicide and doing nothing to stop it. Fans either like it or hate it for making Batman indirectly murder a big part of his motivation.
  • Complete Monster:
    • Dr. Simon Hurt, born Thomas Wayne centuries past, was a devil worshipper who gained immortality when resorting to blood sacrifice to summon demons, instead linking himself with the Hyper-Adapter. Using sacrifice to keep himself alive through centuries, Hurt developed a dark fixation on Bruce Wayne with his obsession to prove that evil could always overcome good. He created the Black Glove, a shadowy evil council dedicated to spreading evil and bloodshed throughout the world. Hurt sought to break Bruce Wayne psychologically, even having him buried without oxygen to permanently damage his mind and shatter him into Hurt's slave. Defeated, Hurt established himself in Mexico as a drug lord known as El Penitente where he financed dark experiments from Professor Pyg that destroyed countless minds, even having a noble opponent of the Cartels turned into a cannibalistic monster who killed his own family. Sacrificing his followers without a second thought, Hurt returned to Gotham intending on spreading the poisons he had developed throughout the city, turning everyone there into a violent monster who would fall upon one another, allowing Hurt to rule over an empire of evil at last.
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    • Batman Incorporated (primarily): Lord Death Man is a bombastic, happily evil supervillain who desires to bring anarchy and "meaningless crime" to Japan in the name of villainy. Though first attacking Gotham years ago, Lord Death Man's penchant for surviving when he is killed allows him to amass a criminal gang and set up shop in Tokyo, Japan, where Lord Death Man begins murdering the local superhero population. Burning Mr. Unknown's hands, eyes, then entire face off with acid to torture and murder him then trying to kill the girlfriend of Unknown's sidekick, Lord Death Man stages an attack on a hospital where he brutally stabs several doctors to death. Setting off a bomb he placed on a disabled children's bus, then blowing up the entire hospital and everyone inside, Lord Death Man goes on a murder spree across Tokyo with his car, running over and gunning down everyone in his path and killing entire families. Returning one last time, Lord Death Man blows up an entire space station filled with his own allies just to claim the lives of several young superheroes, proclaiming his love for murder and desire for a hero-free world to the end.
  • Crazy Awesome:
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    • Lord Death Man, archenemy of Mr. Unknown, is a psychotic Badass in a Nice Suit who wears a skull as a mask, runs around with a freaking tommy gun, can somehow come back from the dead no matter how many times he's killed, and at one point tries to kill Jiro's girlfriend with a giant squid that he shoved into a small apartment. Grant Morrison notes in the deluxe edition that the guy is basically a Grand Theft Auto player character made as a supervillain.
    • The Batman of Zur-En-Arrh. Literally, as he's become quite insane at this point. Dresses in a bright red, yellow, and purple costume meant to display how he's even more confident, kicks all kinds of ass with nothing but a baseball bat and some garbage he uses for batarangs (a tin can lid and a wreath are seen in one page) and spouts such lines as "I am the Batman of ZUR-EN-ARRH!" (Uh-oh.) and "You can't fool the Bat-Radia, it sees through your lies!" To top it off, he's followed around by Bat-Mite who may or may not be a figment of his imagination, and converses with gargoyles while planning his attack.
    • Most of Batman Inc. could be considered Crazy Awesome in their own right, but special mention goes to El Gaucho, Dark Ranger, and of course Bat Cow.
  • Crosses the Line Twice: The Joker's first appearance in the series, shouting "I did it! I finally killed Batman! In front of a bunch of vulnerable, disabled kids! Now get me Santa Claus!" Followed by Batman throwing a badly wounded Joker into a dumpster.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse:
    • Beryl Hutchinson. Originally, Beryl was introduced as a one-shot character during Morrison's run on JLA, then she had a prominent role in Morrison's JLA Classified arc where her competency helped save the world.
    • Amongst the members of Batman Inc., Nightrunner seems to be really popular amongst fans despite his small role.
  • Epileptic Trees: Naturally from a Grant Morrison work, most of which revolved around the Black Glove's identity. Fans' attempts to make sense of everything were also lampshaded/poked fun at by the Joker.
  • Fan Nickname: Dick Grayson as Batman is either referred to as Bat-Dick or DickBats to differentiate him from Bruce, THE Batman.
  • Fashion-Victim Villain:
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
  • Ho Yay/Foe Yay: Some parts of the Batman fanbase caught onto the fact Dick Grayson said he has a thing for crime fighting redheads after Morrison had retconned Jason Todd's hair color from black to red.
  • Jerkass Woobie:
    • Morrison makes Damian this over the course of his run: Cocky reckless brat, really messed up family, and a maximum of two people who actually like him. The conclusion of Batman Vs. Robin alone is enough to make you want to hug him. And then there's what he's going through in Batman Incorporated: being told to go back with his mother or else she'll do something horrible. This is the woman who threw him aside when he disagreed on what path to take and he has to leave the family he's maybe starting to fit with. To make it worse, the storyline brings up his possible Bad Future of Batman #666.
    • Red Hood. Yeah he's a dick who wants to enforce the law in Gotham through brutality, but he gets put through some seriously undeserved shit when Flamingo comes to town.
  • Love to Hate: Doctor Hurt, Professor Pyg and the reinvented Joker are the most depraved supervillains ever put to paper, but they're quite memorable because of it, with Professor Pyg since becoming one of Batman's most recurring villains. Even when Doctor Hurt was brought Back for the Dead, he still managed to reappear in Nightwing.
  • Moral Event Horizon: Talia Al-Ghul orchestrating the brutal murder of her own 10 year old son, although it is later revealed that she didn't order Damian's death. It was the impulse of her large, unstable Damian clone and her Leviathan goons. She eventually crosses the MEH when she decapitates her other son, The Heretic, in Batman Incorporated v2 # 12.
    • And that's ignoring the fact that, in this continuity, she date-raped Batman to make Damian in the first place.
    • Doctor Hurt's mission is to cross this line as many times as possible. He officially hits the utmost pinnacle of cruelty when he persuades the president of the United States to nuke Gotham City.
  • Narm:
    • Apparently the Nightrunner's Superhero Sobriquet is "The Dark Athlete".
    • Ra's Al-Ghul apparently met Talia's mother at Woodstock, dressed in his usual high-collared green cape.
  • Narm Charm:
    • Flamingo's outfit is absolutely ridiculous (he wears a hot pink jacket for God's sake) but somehow it just makes him even more creepy.
    • Jackanape - a talking gorilla in a clown suit. Sounds silly, but the scene where he delivers a Nice Job Breaking It, Hero! on Damian makes him look especially menacing, with his Black Eyes of Evil adding to his menace.
  • Never Live It Down: In Batman #666 Damian's possible future self is shown to have a cat named Alfred. In fandom he's like a Crazy Cat Kid, and Morrison had Damian adopt a cow, Peter J. Tomasi had him adopt a dog and a cat, Gleason had him adopt a freaking gargoyle, and Jon Kent's accidental killing of a cat becomes something Damian holds against him to the point of kidnapping the ten-year-old for interrogation.
  • Protection from Editors: While Morrison's run survived the New 52 reboot relatively intact, it did suffer from several changes, such as the absence of Oracle, Cassandra Cain, and Stephanie Brown, as well as a number of costume changes to make the series part of the New 52 continuity.
  • Recycled Script: Morrison reuses a few ideas that first showed up in his New X-Men run a few years prior. The revelation that Oberon Sexton is the Joker in disguise echoes the revelation that Xorn was Magneto in disguise, while Bruce Wayne's international corporation "Batman Incorporated" is more than a little similar to Charles Xavier's "X-Corporation".
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: Damian, throughout the course of Batman and Robin, mellows out and shows not only his softer side, but also his loyalty to Dick.
  • Rewatch Bonus: Once you know that Oberon Sexton is really the Joker and that he's been working against Simon Hurt from the start of Batman and Robin, nearly all of his dialogue and the "dominoes" theme take on additional meaning, providing considerable Foreshadowing.
  • Shocking Moments:
    • Jezebel Jet was in cahoots with Doctor Hurt.
    • Oberon Sexton is the Joker, but this time he's on Batman's side!
    • Kathy Kane returns in the final issue of Batman: Incorporated.
  • Signature Scene: Batman donning the garb of Zurr-En-Arrh is considered the image that best defines Morrison's run.
  • Stoic Woobie: This trait of Batman is even more pronounced here than in the main books.
  • Take That, Scrappy!:
    • Jason Todd's no-holds-barred smackdown on Damian Wayne in Batman and Robin #6, which ended with Damian getting a broken back for his trouble.
    • Arguably it's Jason who receives the beating here at the hands of the Flamingo, a killer in a bright pink costume that would have killed Jason and his sidekick Scarlet if Damian and Dick had not come to his rescue. It was also Flamingo who shot Damian in the back, paralyzing him.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: "Under the Hood" fans weren't happy that Morrison changed Red Hood's costume or that he was repeatedly made the butt of a joke when Judd Winick had reintroduced him as a competent operative who got the better of Batman and Black Mask. Or that Morrison, who was writing a love letter to continuity, deliberately changed Jason's Pre-Crisis blond hair to make a Red-Headed Stepchild joke, which seemed petty. Jason's run as Wingman and partial reconciliation with Batman was better-received.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
    • How many fans felt about Dick as Batman, especially with Morrison vocally hoping for Dick's tenure to last ten years.
    • The same goes for Jason Todd, whom many have felt had finally reached his potential as a character, only to get derailed due to The New 52.
  • Uncanny Valley: The Heretic is absolutely steeped in this once his helmet comes off. A baby's head on a giant man's body? That's some nightmares right there.
  • What Do You Mean, It Wasn't Made on Drugs?: Subverted Trope In-Universe. Turns out that a good chunk of what happened to Batman in the Silver Age was because he was on drugs. Joker toxin, Scarecrow fear gas, and total isolation for a week to be exact. (And that's not even mentioning Grant Morrison's notorious habits...)

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