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  • Alas, Poor Scrappy: Tommen's death. He was becoming a spineless Puppet King, but it was still immensely sad to see him commit suicide after witnessing the destructive results of his mother's machinations. This was a boy of no more than fourteen, who was Happily Married, wanted to be a good king to his people, and he drops out the window with no more effort than one might take to go on a stroll. He crossed the Despair Event Horizon, and he crossed it hard.
  • Alternative Character Interpretation:
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    • Jaime's reaction to returning to King's Landing and watching Cersei's crowning is decidedly neutral, leaving it ambiguous as to what his opinion of her actions is.
    • Jon Snow banishes Melisandre to the south instead of execution, perhaps in a secret belief that she may still play a part in the wars to come. Though he does make it clear that if she returns to the North, she will be hanged for murder.
    • Melisandre doesn't actually believe Shireen's sacrifice gained the Lord of Light's favor, just that the Lord of Light needed her around to resurrect Jon Snow. Her desperate plea that she is still needed is based less on the slightly farther away threat of the White Walkers, but more on her fear that she is now unneeded by the Lord of Light and is no longer protected by him.
    • Littlefinger does not like Jon because he does not have Littlefinger's beloved Catelyn's blood and because Catelyn resented the boy for being Ned's illegitimate son by another woman who was openly raised by Ned at Winterfell as his son. Well, as far as Littlefinger knows, as he is not aware Cat had a change of heart a few months/weeks/days before her death.
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    • Did the High Sparrow really have no idea about what Cersei had been planning, or did he know and either was confident that the Seven would protect them or was he willing to die a martyr?
      • On another level, did he remain silent in the face of Margaery's warnings because he was truly confident in keeping everyone in the Sept to maintain the sanctity of the trial? Or did he remain silent because he understood the danger they were in, but simply didn't know what to do? Or dismiss it out of hand because the idea came from a woman?
    • Sansa's exchange of looks with Littlefinger while Jon is declared King in the North: is she wary of Littlefinger's treachery, or is she upset that the lords of the North will crown Jon instead of her and planning to stab him in the back, thinking that Littlefinger's "pretty picture" looks pretty good after all?
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    • Cersei's reaction to Tommen's death is rather subdued especially in comparison to Joffrey's. Is she in Despair Event Horizon? Does she simply not care due to how he's been undermining her the whole season and effectively sentenced her to death by abolishing trial by combat? Is she resigned to the fact that she would outlive her children and is now simply riding out the prophecy? Or has she Jumped Off The Slippery Slope, not caring about his death at all?
  • Anvilicious: Davos calling the Lord of Light "evil" struck some viewers of this, as the show has kept repeatedly harping on Religion Is Wrong sentiments time and time again (as that claim is wrong in and of itself since nearly every religion is right about at least a few things and some are right about more than others, it's not something the books promote and came at the expense of some details and scenes from the story and has been criticized by non-religious people just as much as religious people have, too). This was combined with giving Melisandre excessive Adaptational Villainy on top of the Adaptational Villainy the Faith of the Seven have been saddled with. Many also point out that Davos didn't bring up Stannis and Shireen's fate in any of the preceding episodes earlier this season and only latched on because Shireen's wooden stag miraculously survived the funeral pyre leading to his belated Eureka Moment. Some book viewers also note that calling any side "evil" is missing the point of the entire series, especially Melisandre, who George R. R. Martin considered to be his "most misunderstood character" and Martin, while an atheist himself, approaches a Warts and All stance on religion.
  • Author's Saving Throw: We get several versions of scenes the fans had been complaining about possibly never getting — the Freys in pies scheme is given to Arya, Varys's murder of Kevan is replaced with Qyburn murdering Pycelle (with Kevan dying shortly thereafter), Jaime is finally starting to turn against Cersei despite the show dropping his and Tyrion's final conversation, and we got to hear the iconic quote "Vengeance. Justice. Fire and blood" (albeit split between Ellaria and Varys, rather than the late Doran).
  • Awesome Music:
    • Light of the Seven, the piano/organ suite that plays during the course of Loras's trial and Cersei's destruction of the Sept of Baelor was a fantastic mood setter for the entire scene. What makes the song stand out so much is that the composer went out of his way to use instruments that hadn't been used for music before in the series.
    • The Winds of Winter, the piece that plays in the final scene when Daenerys' Fleet has finally set sail for Westeros.
    • The Tower, the piece that plays when finally young Ned reaches Lyanna in the Tower and finds out she's dying of childbirth. The awesome climactic moment plays when the camera focuses on Lyanna's son, and follows a Wham Shot with Jon sitting in Winterfell's hall.
  • Captain Obvious Reveal: The books and, to a lesser extent the show, have been dropping gazillions of hints about Jon's true parentage for years, turning the actual reveal into more of a formality.
  • Cargo Ship: Sam's love for books is displayed more prominently than ever before.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • Bronn griping about a server girl looking at Jaime and how easy it is for him to attract other women. Then we find out that server was really Arya. In the books and TV series, Jaime was never on Arya's kill list, apparently because word had spread enough when she was at Harrenhal that Robb had captured Jaime before her father died and he wasn't directly involved in the gravest atrocities against her family. (Well, he did throw Bran out a window, but Arya never found that part out.) In a post-episode interview, the showrunners mention that Arya was surprised to see Jaime at the Twins and was eyeing him because she was considering if she should kill him, too. She didn't because 1) it would have disrupted her already careful plans for how to take out the Freys and 2) the writers acknowledge that Jaime was never a name on Arya's kill list. She realized this, and decided he wasn't a high enough of a priority to risk her original plan to kill Walder Frey, whom she hated far more.
    • Jon Snow, bastard-born, who once swore to own no lands and hold no titles, is now King of the North, and has a more effective rule (and claim) over more of Westeros than the actual monarch does.
  • "Holy Shit!" Quotient:
    • This episode sets the stage for one hell of a grand battle, and the White Walkers are still yet to come. Cersei has taken over the Iron Throne by killing literally everyone else in King's Landing with remotely any claim to it (Tommen killed himself upon witnessing what she had done). Jon Snow unexpectedly has sovereignty over the North plopped in his lap by the assembled Northern Lords. Lady Olenna, as the last known member of House Tyrell, throws in her lot with Dorne for revenge, and both turn to Daenerys to get it thanks to Varys. The closing shot is of Daenerys — at long last — setting sail for Westeros... with a massive fleet behind her, staffed with Dothraki and Ironborn and Unsullied, with Tyrion and Varys and Theon and Yara at her side, and her three dragons flying above. Winter is coming? Daenerys is coming, and the fight is coming with her.
    • From start to finish, the actual explosion takes twenty seconds of screen time, and it kills more named characters than any other entire episode. Not even the Red Wedding or Mother's Mercy had such a high body count: twelve recurring speaking roles, several of them guest stars — three Tyrells, Kevan and Lancel, the High Sparrow, Septa Unella, Tommen and Pycelle due to Cersei's actions, and three Freys due to Arya. By contrast, during "The Rains of Castamere", only three major recurring characters with speaking lines died at the Red Wedding (Robb, Catelyn, and Talisa — albeit they were presumed by many to be the main characters), plus Walder Frey's non-speaking wife, Robb's direwolf Grey Wind, and Orell the warg in the other part of the episode (still, only six characters including the wolf). Even if you don't count the Freys as part of this specific event in King's Landing, Cersei's purge killed eight major speaking roles, compared to three at the Red Wedding (five if you count the non-speakers).
  • Just Here for Godzilla: With Diana Rigg and Conleth Hill thrown into the mix, finally a Dorne scene is actually watchable.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • Long May She Reign. note 
    • Tommen brings a whole new meaning to King's Landing. The fact that he pulled a Denholm had some viewers chuckling at his exit.
      • Not to mention his comparisons Bran surviving his accident... Winterfell but Kingslanding.
    • An itself memetic scene from Community in which Troy Barnes cheerfully walks into a room only to find out all hell has broken loose in his absence is frequently compared to Jaime's return to King's Landing. The biggest difference is the color of the fire.
    • Jokes about Varys and Arya having/being teleporters thanks to their blatant Traveling at the Speed of Plot. note 
    • "The books [at the Citadel] gave Sam more orgasms than Gilly."
    • Thanks to the "Frey Pie" scene, another joke on the internet is that "the Faceless Men taught Arya how to cook". Alternatively, another joke doing the rounds is how, while en route to the Twins, she picked up her old friend Hot Pie for that part of the job.
    • "This is irregular." "I suppose life is irregular." note 
    • Jokes about how even as a baby, Jon was brooding.
    • Wildfire can't melt stone pillars. 6/26 was an inside job (like 9/11).
    • As he watched the wildfire ignite, Lancel's last thought was the realization that there was no such thing as a "breastplate stretcher."
  • Moral Event Horizon: Cersei has committed some horrible atrocities throughout her life, but large-scale mass murder wasn't one of them. Blowing up the Sept of Baelor and the surrounding houses with all their inhabitants could make Emperor Nero blush, since undoubtedly hundreds if not thousands died in that attack. She then continues her streak of wickedness by leaving Septa Unella alone in a room with Gregor Clegane, implying that the undead Mountain has her leave to rape Unella to death. As if to hammer the point home, after her love for her children was presented as one of her few redeeming traits, she seems unconcerned — and possibly even relieved — that her last son is dead.
  • Narm: You can be forgiven for laughing at the idea that winter’s arrival is signified by it starting to snow at Winterfell, AKA the place where both book and show have acknowledged it snows in the summer.
  • One-Scene Wonder:
    • Once again, Lady Lyanna Mormont proves that she is the most badass ten-year old girl ever by handily shutting down the Northern Lords who are criticizing Jon Snow despite having not fought alongside him at the Battle of the Bastards. Note that most of these men are decades older and more experienced than Lyanna and can only respond with looks of embarrassment.
    • Her namesake Lyanna Stark in a flashback. Her time is short (both figuratively and literally) but she confirms one of, if not the most notorious WMG's in the entire series.
    • The man at the Citadel's front desk who gives some very pointed reactions to Sam's presence.
  • Relationship Writing Fumble: While it has yet to be seen whether it was intentional on the writers' parts, Sansa and Jon have some definite sexual chemistry while on top of the ramparts together. Many reviewers have commented that they thought it was going to be a Relationship Upgrade moment, but then he went to kiss her forehead, so it combines with Launcher of a Thousand Ships.
  • Unintentionally Sympathetic:
    • Jon Snow and Davos cite Melisandre's burning of Shireen as grounds to dismiss her, but Melisandre argues that her actions secured victory at Winterfell because she believes that Shireen's sacrifice thawed out the blizzard. When Davos calls the Lord of Light evil for being willing to burn a child, Melisandre reminds him and, possibly herself after a pause, that it was the same Lord that resurrected Jon Snow, which might mean the Lord of Light is different. Despite her pleas, she's banished for Shireen's murder.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic:
    • By refusing to lift a finger against Ramsay, the Northern lords can come across as Fair Weather Friends because only after the battle is won, do they support the Starks via Jon.
    • Ensemble Dark Horse Lyanna Mormont and the Northern lords can come across this way to some by crediting Jon with the entire victory and proclaiming him king while ignoring Sansa's battle-saving role in the Bolton defeat, even though Sansa is a trueborn daughter. Grieved by Rickon's murder, Jon makes an egregious move by charging Ramsay's forces alone, after which Davos orders the Stark forces to follow their commander (Jon), while Sansa brings the Vale forces that save the day and Jon's life — albeit after letting thousands die needlessly by keeping The Cavalry a secret.
    • Sansa herself, according to Word of God, is agitated because she feels she hasn't been properly rewarded for her efforts after her brother Jon has been crowned the King in the North. Even after her brother forgave her for keeping the Vale reinforcements secret because she was unsure whether or not she could trust Littlefinger and Jon telling his sister that they should trust each other now. It seems like a slap in the face to reopen tension between the two siblings after it has been properly patched up in a previous scene.
    • Melisandre might also come off as this in her final scenes with Davos and Jon Snow depending on where you believe the writers were trying to put her.
  • Win Back the Crowd:
    • Critics who felt that there were some holes in the final confrontation against Ramsay Bolton in the preceding episode greatly praised this episode. The King's Landing storyline, always sort of "on pause" the whole season (because it went too far ahead of the books compared to other subplots), suddenly caught up in a very satisfying way. Even Jaime's story arc, also somewhat on pause, got a lot of development as his dealing with Walder Frey makes him seriously disgusted that these are the kind of people he's supporting by remaining part of Team Lannister, and then his look of shock at what Cersei has done as he returns to King's Landing at the end says it all.
    • It seems like every season finale after Season 1, some fans and critics would grumble about how "they keep saying 'winter is coming' but it hasn't come yet", and most of all, expressing disappointment that Daenerys hasn't set sail for Westeros. Now, winter has officially begun, and the closing shot is Daenerys sailing with a massive invasion fleet to Westeros, with three live dragons grown to battle-ready size.
    • Arya's time with the Faceless Men had been summed up as "she gets beaten up a lot by the Waif, watches some plays, and then decides to go home again". The reveal of her new special skill set gives all the time in Braavos a purpose.

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