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  • Alternative Character Interpretation:
    • Some fans suspect that Daphne might have been secretly in love with Niles as long he was secretly in love with her, but repressed and concealed her own attraction better than he did.note  Certain moments, such as the time she ill-conceivedly sort-of-tried to seduce him in "Daphne Hates Sherry", her behavior towards him in several episodes such as "First Date" and "A Midwinter's Night Dream", and her suspiciously sincere words and actions in "Moon Dance" make it difficult to be sure that her feelings for him were really as innocent as everyone assumed.
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    • Martin Crane: Long-suffering but loving down-to-earth father, or emotionally abusive and utterly ungrateful Jerkass? The two are also not not mutually exclusive, meaning he can lie on any point of the spectrum between them.
    • Dr. Clint Webber. Handsome, charming socialite or an annoying know-it-all budinski?
    • During A Cheerful Goodbye did Cliff really mean it when he seemingly mistook Carla's "The Reason You Suck" Speech for an affectionate joke, and declared that he wasn't retiring after all? The parent show made it abundantly clear that Cliff was aware of the deep level of Carla's hatred for him (and to some extent he returned it, especially when she was out of earshot). It's easily possible that Cliff was merely saying that to Troll Carla as one last parting jab at her before actually retiring, correctly deducing that it would drive her crazy.
      • Alternately, perhaps Cliff knew that Carla meant those insults but just pretended to think otherwise it as an excuse to back out of going to Florida, due to wanting to stay in Boston after thinking it over. He did sometimes do various similar stunts whenever he felt insulted and wanted people to extend an olive branch (even an insincere one) to him back in Cheers.
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    • M. Night Shyamalan has theorized that the series is vaguely "supernatural" and that Frasier himself is "a mastermind who uses radio airwaves to force the population into confessing their psychological insufficiencies" and "uses the illusion of trust to gain entrance into the homes of thousands of credulous customers." He even argues that Frasier's Catchphrase, "I'm Listening", is indicative of a sort of Orwellian surveillance on Frasier's part.
    • Bulldog Briscoe: a macho testosterone fuled womanizer or a secret Armored Closet Gay? Many of the fanbase suggested the latter due to him exhibiting stereotypes of one "overcompensating" for something. In season one, a date of Frasier's immediately mistook Bulldog for a closet gay man as she works in psychology.
    • Frasier's chess-losing streak against Martin. Given the only other times we see Frasier playing chess in the show and in Cheers he's no good at it (in Cheers, he loses repeatedly to Woody), it's entirely possible Frasier just sucks at chess.
  • Author's Saving Throw:
    • It had been mentioned on Cheers that Frasier's father was not only a scientist, but also dead. When Sam shows up for a guest-appearance and naturally questions Martin about this, Frasier clarifies that he and Martin had just had an argument where Martin called him a stuffed shirt and hung up on him, leading to him bitterly telling the rest of Cheers he was dead.
      Sam: You're a cop? (to Frasier) You told me he was a research scientist.
      (Martin gives Frasier a Death Glare)
      Frasier: You were dead, what did it matter?!
    • The season three finale "You Can Go Home Again" flashed back to Frasier arriving in Seattle in 1993, and there was no effort made to make the characters look like they did back in season one (Frasier lacking the skullet he had in the first two seasons is especially jarring). In later episodes that flashed back to that period, such as "The Return of Martin Crane" and "Crock Tales", the cast were given wardrobe changes and hairpieces/wigs to more closely resemble their younger selves. The quality of the efforts, however, is an entirely different subject.
  • Better on DVD: This show is very self-referential, but in a subtle way that is much more easily picked up on if you watch several episodes in a row. This mostly applies to the later seasons that succumbed to Seasonal Rot, and, oddly enough, Cerebus Syndrome. However, this also makes apparent how many of the continuity nods are more in the vein of Broad Strokes, sometimes veering into glaring series continuity errors.
  • Bizarro Episode: Season 11's "Freudian Sleep" is downright cartoonish, and a deep departure from the tasteful, subtle humor the series is known for.
  • Broken Base: Having Niles and Daphne get together is a source of debate for the fans. Some think it didn't work; not because it was a bad idea, merely because the plots written for them were not as entertaining or amusing as the earlier Unresolved Sexual Tension ones. Some also claim that Daphne Took a Level in Jerkass around this time, becoming a stereotypical shrewish, nagging wife. Others think them finally getting together marked a sharp upturn in quality and dimensionality in the already-great series.
  • Crosses the Line Twice:
    • Frasier can't tell his new producer-in-training Mary Thomas that he doesn't like how she works, because she's black and he's afraid of looking racist. When he and Niles roleplay a confrontation, Frasier's portrayal of Mary as a Sassy Black Woman is so ridiculously offensive it's hilarious.
      Niles: (playing Frasier) Now, I want you to contribute, but only up to a point.
      Frasier: (playing Mary) So you want me to stay in my place, Massa?!
      Niles: She's not going to say "massa".
      Frasier: What, am I gettin' too uppity for you? You sherry swillin', opera lovin', Armani wearin' elitist? You have no idea how difficult it is for a black woman in a white man's world!
      Niles: Frasier—
      Frasier: (practically snapping his fingers) I DON'T THINK SO!
    • Frasier at one point has the bad idea of hosting his show on Christmas, treating himself to sad Christmas stories. One caller (Mel Brooks) tells him about telling his mother that the puppy Santa got him won't wake up - Frasier congratulates him for the saddest story.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse:
    • The Latin version of KACL. From the hysterical joke in the credits of the finale of season 5 to watching their hearfelt goodbyes to each other when KACL changed back to an all-talk format, some fans felt curious about what that version of the radio station was like.
    • Kenny Daly. After an endless series of managers who are introduced with an episode devoted to how the station (and Frasier in particular) deals with this new personality running things, show up in a few episodes more, and then leave...Kenny shows up—and charmed viewers enough so that he stayed for the rest of the show.
    • Faye from season six is a favorite among Frasier's various love interests for some decent humor, chemistry with Frasier and Nice to the Waiter moments with Daphne.
  • Epileptic Trees: Quite a few fans (including The Critical Android in his Frasier Analysis podcast) believe that Rick Garrett is not the father of Roz's daughter Alice. Since Roz Really Gets Around, it's unlikely that Rick was the only person Roz slept with around the time that Alice was conceived, plus Alice did not inherit the large noses that Rick's parents have (and that Rick once had before having surgery to correct it) and finally, Rick nor his parents ever appear again despite promising to help Roz raise the child, which these fans take as a sign that they eventually find out the truth.
  • Fair for Its Day:
    • Despite several episodes that poke fun at the gay community, Frasier was one of the first sitcoms to portray LGBT people as regular folks living normal lives with identities not connected to their sexuality.
    • Watching the series today, it may seem like Roz is unnecessarily slut-shamed a lot. That being said, a single woman with an active sex life who also had a successful career was fairly new ground for 1993 television.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:
    • In "Our Parents, Ourselves", Niles jokes about spending all night waiting for the heart attack after having a profiterole. A few seasons later, they'd have a very serious pair of episodes where he has to undergo open-heart surgery.
    • Martin and Daphne's subplot in "Perspectives on Christmas" where she mistakenly believes that he's terminally ill - complete with what she thinks is an Incurable Cough of Death - is hit with this after John Mahoney's death from throat cancer.
    • Likewise, the scenes with Martin and Eddie can be harsh to watch after Kelsey Grammer revealed in an interview that Moose, the first dog to portray Eddie, hated John Mahoney and would often bite him.
  • Genius Bonus: The show is as much a master of this trope as Ada Lovelace was a master of mathematics.
    • That's Augusta Ada King, Countess of Lovelace to you!
    • According to the producers, sitcoms generally run on "the 70% joke", where 70% of the TV-watching audience will get the joke and laugh, while Frasier often had "the 20% joke". It didn't seem to hurt them, though. (It helps that obscure references from Frasier or Niles are usually followed by another character's confused reaction, making the real butt of the joke how out-of-touch the elitist characters can be.)
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • Maris is an Acceptable Target for her bad personality and the way she treats Niles, but all the cracks about her approach to food (a fear of buffets, terror of gaining weight, crying when people joke about her eating a lot) still become a little bit less funny when it's revealed that she was obese when she was young and dedicated a part of her life to never being that fat ever again.
    • In "Love Stinks," when Roz starts dating the garbage man Roger, Frasier and Niles make a few jokes about it, which Roz participates in, and before she heads out, she adds one of her own: "Don't worry, guys; I won't get 'dumped'." Fast forward to the later episode "Frasier Has Spokane," and not only does she get dumped, but it was one of the most emotionally devastating breakups she's ever gone through on the show.
    • In Season 2, Tea Leoni plays the girlfriend of Sam Malone. Both are "sexual compulsive" personality types. Not as funny when her real life husband, David Duchovny, would be treated for sex addiction over a decade later.
    • The descriptions of Frasier and Niles bullying become less funny due to the severity of school bullying being a hot topic as of late. Of course, Niles is able to get his bully to feel bad about it and helps him with psychotherapy. Frasier, on the other hand, gets a more... physical revenge (then pays for it - no, he doesn't get hurt. He just cuts a fat check as an apology.)
    • In the Season 4 finale, Frasier receives a wrong number answering machine message from a woman coming home on American Airlines Flight 11. This was four years before producer David Angell died on the same flight during the September 11 attacks.
    • In season 10, when Roz interviews for a new job with another radio station, her interviewer turns out to be one of her (numerous) previous sexual partners. In the interview he makes a great many double-entendres that rely on finding a sexually-charged workplace funny in order to properly land as jokes, something most people wouldn't do in today's society. It turns out that in actuality, the interviewer's father was the one-night fling in question.
    • Any of the episodes dealing with death or Martin's old age, now that John Mahoney has died.
    • Kelsey Grammer's then-wife cameoed in a Halloween episode, where her character flirts with Frasier before leaving with another man. Grammer later revealed that the marriage was a deeply unhappy one where he received no love and affection from his wife for years before they divorced.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • The plot where Frasier and Niles become convinced they're descended from the Romanovs is much funnier given another of Kelsey Grammer's roles.
    • This exchange from "My Coffee with Niles", considering David Hyde Pierce finally came out in 2007:
      Niles: I've never said 'Wow' when describing another man before. I wonder what that means.
      Frasier: It means you're a gay man!
      [Niles gives Frasier a disapproving look]
      • Similarly, "The Doctor is Out" has Niles make several snarky comments that Roz's Camp Straight boyfriend in heavily in the closet.
      • And then there's "Out with Dad", where he is obviously uncomfortable in, and very much eager to get out of, being forced by Martin to pretend to be his boyfriend so that Martin himself could get out of a gay man's advances.
    • The episode with Patrick Stewart wouldn't be the last time Kelsey Grammer would work with him.
    • The episode where Sam Malone shows up, Sam and Roz do a bit of flirting. Almost two decades later, Ted Danson and Peri Gilpin play husband and wife on CSI.
    • Late in the series it's revealed that what Frasier thought was the cough button was actually the echo button. It's possible that it was a mistake isolated to the episode, but it's fun to keep that in mind and look at everything Frasier has said on the air when he thought he was muting himself. With an echo.
    • In the Season 11 episode "The Placeholder" Frasier gets made fun of for having a grocery tote and organic groceries. Less than a decade later, organic groceries are popular in Seattle and residents are encouraged to have totes as plastic grocery bags are illegal and paper ones cost you money. Not so funny now, eh, Roz?
    • In "Head Game" when Frasier asks Niles to fill in for him on his show, Niles makes a remark that "I couldn't presume to fill those big floppy red shoes of yours." This episode aired on the 12th of November 1996. On the 23rd of February 1997, The Simpsons episode "Brother from Another Series" aired in which Kelsey Grammer played Sideshow Bob and David Hyde Pierce portrayed Bob's brother Cecil (as a clear and hilarious reference to their roles on Frasier). A key focus of their relationship in the episode was Cecil's jealousy over Bob's success as a clown's assistant (which had actually been Cecil's dream) which included wearing big floppy red shoes (though, as a technical point, the shoes weren't actually that floppy on Bob due to his having been established as having unusually large feet). For bonus points, in the season 11 episode "Boo!", Frasier dresses up as a clown, and while talking to Niles while dressed up, attention is briefly drawn to the big shoes.
    • In one episode, Martin is ecstatic when Frasier’s girlfriend of the week shows him how to make bacon pancakes.
    • In the season nine premiere, Niles makes a derisive comment along the lines of "It just wouldn't be a vacation without Dad taking a picture of one of his meals." (Using a real camera, mind you.) Fast-forward to the days of Instagram, and taking pictures of meals hardly seems like an eccentricity anymore...
    • There were a few early episodes where Niles makes bald jokes about Frasier. Fast forward twenty-plus years and David Hyde Pierce is balding too (even during Frasier's run, Pierce's hair was visibly thinning, making this a case of Hypocritical Humor).
    • One of the running gags in the earlier seasons was Niles constantly wiping down his seat in the coffee shop and being very aware of touching surfaces for fear of germs. His behaviour would look much more normal during the COVID-19 pandemic.
  • Hollywood Pudgy: A Running Gag throughout the series revolves around various people making cracks about Frasier's "fat ass", while Kelsey Grammer is of average weight.
  • Ho Yay: Charlotte's boyfriend towards Frasier. He falls asleep leaning on him, he asks him for a neck rub, he gives him a longer goodbye hug than his ex-girlfriend...
  • Informed Wrongness:
    • Niles in "Room Full of Heroes." While he was drunk and pretty passive-aggressive in his diatribe, it should be noted that nobody even thought to feel sorry for Niles feeling the way he did. After all, it isn't like Martin had never done anything to validate those feelings Niles had expressed.
    • Frasier in "Can't Buy Me Love." He may have been a bit heavy-handed in his "The Reason You Suck" Speech to Christina, but he really had no reason to disbelieve Renata at that point (especially given that she dropped the kid in his lap on what was supposed to be their date night). Christina immediately got pissed at Frasier for believing her daughter's lies instead of, you know, getting pissed at her daughter for making all that shit up in the first place.
    • Many fans argue that Niles was cast in a pretty harsh light in "Daphne Returns." While he did act like an ass at Frasier's apartment, it wasn't exactly sweet of Daphne to essentially blame Niles for her weight gain on the ride home. After all, Niles wasn't really guilty of anything more than loving Daphne unconditionally. Furthermore, Daphne posits that Niles' blind love for her was the only reason for her weight gain, and the fact that she basically ruined Donny's life is never explored. In addition, after the Pensieve Flashback segment, Frasier sternly says to Niles "How did you love her? From afar." In Niles' defense, he was married to Maris for a very long time, so he didn't have much of a choice.
  • More Popular Spin-Off: Zig-zagged. While Cheers is still more popular among the general public, Frasier matched Cheers in length, had better critical reception and fared better at the Emmys. So More Acclaimed Spinoff sounds more appropriate.
  • Periphery Demographic: The series unsurprisingly has a huge fandom among the gay community. While having two openly gay stars (David Hyde Pierce and Dan Butler) contributes to this in no small part, it's also due to the show's progressive and accepting attitude toward homosexuality.
  • Retroactive Recognition: Many early one-off cast actors went on to bigger roles. Lisa Edelstein plays a love interest of the week in Season 5. Erika Christensen appears as a teen in the cafe in Season 6. Other examples include John C. McGinley who appeared as a plumber that turned out to be a former bully, and Alan Tudyk as one of Frasier's neighbors. A very young Zooey Deschanel plays Roz' cousin in Season 10.
  • The Scrappy:
    • When Daphne's brother Simon and her mother Gertrude started appearing quite frequently, the terms 'annoying', 'obnoxious' and, most critically, 'not very funny' began to be heard applied to them very quickly. Gertrude received the most hate as the creators kept her around long after Simon had left—and she was made into a near-regular in Season 10! (Fortunately, she was Put on a Bus in the season finale.)
    • Lana's son Kirby was introduced as a young, everyman character and totally upset the show's character dynamic—even when he wasn't just being a stereotypical Lazy Bum "slob" teen. More of an example The Poochie in an attempt to get a new demographic. Interestingly, after the Lana arc has been concluded, Kirby only makes two appearances in Season 9 and is never seen or mentioned again.
    • Julia Wilcox, for not only having what viewers believed was a highly unpleasant and unoriginal personality, but because the show seemingly went out of its way to constantly confirm that she really was just a rude, selfish, immature person with next to no redeeming aspects in every new appearance. The fact that she actually got into a relationship with Frasier at the end of Season 10 only added insult to injury, as did the writers trying to make it into a Love Triangle with Roz, and was quickly undone by the new writing staff in Season 11; indeed, the new writers went out of their way to savagely deconstruct her and Frasier's relationship till Frasier broke things off with her in one episode.
    • For many, Donny became this starting with Season 8. Throughout Season 7, he is shown as a character that was very nearly impossible to dislike because of how sweet and genuine he was. After Niles and Daphne end up together, he makes a very sudden turn for the Jerkass Lawyer, threatening to sue not just Daphne, but Frasier as well. Many fans view this shift as abrupt and see Donny's motivations as childish, even for someone who got left at the altar. Some compare him to Frasier, who never got over the betrayal but didn't lash out at anyone but Diane over it, and only in small, verbal ways. Donny did get over Daphne, however, kinda sorta, when he met someone.note 
  • Seasonal Rot: Seasons 9 and especially 10, due to an overall drop in the quality of writing, and many new annoying characters being introduced. Possibly a subversion though, as Season 11 was much more well-received than Seasons 9 and 10. It is possible the uptick in writing was due to the writers knowing Season 11 was their last, allowing them to tie up loose ends that they wouldn't have been able to if the series were to continue.
  • Special Effect Failure: Many of the wigs worn by Roz and Daphne in the flashback scenes of "Crock Tales" look very unconvincing and much darker than their natural hair colors. Frasier's long hair in the 1993 flashback also leaves a lot to be desired.
  • Squick: In "Room With a View", Daphne reveals all her brothers (save Billy, the gay one) used to spy on her in the shower. It's one of the few weird and disturbing portions of her childhood which isn't played for laughs.
  • Strawman Has a Point:
    • In "Room Full of Heroes", Niles begins to say, in-character as Martin, that he and Frasier were disappointments to him. Martin sharply cuts him off and says he's portraying him as a "drunken judgmental jackass." While Niles was certainly over the line and had indeed had a few beers, considering how Martin treats the two of them and routinely expresses exasperation about their behavior, it's hard not to see why Niles would think this way (as an example, in “You Can't Tell a Crook by His Cover” when Frasier asked him if he believed in second chances Martin’s response was “I did, but then we had Niles.”). This could be why Martin reacts so poorly, at least partly; Niles's performance was clearly beginning to hit a bit close to home in other ways (such as his drinking habits) as well...
    • One episode has a boy call in the show asking for advice because he was being bullied for being smart. Frasier's advice is basically "Just hang on, because one day you'll be more successful than them". The kid condescendingly points out that his advice isn't helpful to solving his problem right now which, while he might be a bit of a smug little snot about it, is a pretty valid point.
    • When Simon ditches out on taking care of his mother to go explore America and make the most of his couch-surfing lifestyle, Daphne calls him out at length for not being more responsible and taking care of her, and it's portrayed as the ultimate expression of how selfish and worthless he is. But Simon's arguments and the arguments the other characters had been making about Mrs. Moon all along still carry weight: she has a home in Manchester she could be living in, a lot of other children who could look out for her (and most of them more responsible and capable of doing so than Simon), and at the end of the day, while Simon may be a layabout, he's still an adult man who has the right to live his life however he sees fit. It's not as if Gertrude is an invalid, after all; she's generally just too selfish and mean to look after herself if she can badger someone else into doing it for her.
  • Tastes Like Diabetes: The climax of the episode with Frasier's ex-wife Nanny G. Yes...the stage show.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: While she had a fairly decent run on the show, some fans felt that the writers gave up on Mel a little too soon, and that they could have used her to string out the Unresolved Sexual Tension between Niles and Daphne for another season or two. Others, even those who felt that it was time to make Niles and Daphne into the show's Official Couple, felt that the show went a little too far in making her cartoonishly villainous in Season 8.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic:
    • While his occasional delving into arrogance and pomposity are intentional (and indeed, an essential part of the show's humor), there are times when Frasier's refusal and / or inability to learn from his mistakes land him right here, as you wish someone would just slap some sense into him, or that he'd just learn to let things go. Of course, if he didn't, there wouldn't be any show...
    • Martin and indeed the staff of the steak house in "Dinner At Eight." After a few too many condescending remarks about the restaurant from Frasier and Niles, he throws a fit and storms off, even bringing their dead mother into it, claiming that she'd be ashamed of them. However, Martin is always vocal about how he disapproves of most of the stuff Frasier and Niles like, and took great pleasure in seeing the hostess ruin their Hugo Boss ties as soon as they arrived. While he does have a point about how they should appreciate the simple things in life, he just comes across as a bully who can dish it out but can't take it.
    • Frasier, again, in Julia Wilcox's first episode. He acts like she's a monstrously cold person (which, okay, she is) simply because she rebuffs any advance he makes at friendship. Except Julia's not under any requirement to make friends with people, and from the looks of the situation Frasier is the only person at K-ACL who gives a rat's ass about whether Julia likes them or not. Roz even points out early on in the episode that Frasier's interest in Julia is only because he sees her as a "project" he can "fix" (and then sleep with). It doesn't make Julia any more sympathetic or likable, but she is right in that Frasier's being pompous and irritating toward her when she's made it perfectly clear she doesn't want anything to do with him.
  • Values Dissonance:
    • The episode where Frasier reveals he slept with his piano teacher at eighteen plays with this. Martin brings up the fact that the woman was taking advantage of his kid (not to mention not doing her job as a piano teacher) and Frasier protests that it was a loving relationship and his initiation into manhood, not an older woman "lusting after young flesh"... and then it's revealed that his piano teacher still is into men much younger than her, lending credibility to the idea she was just taking advantage of him, although the episode still plays it for laughs. The episode also plays for laughs the revelation that Bulldog's father made him sleep with a hooker at the age of 16 for his birthday (he just wanted a bike). Nowadays these "first times" would not be viewed so harmlessly.
    • In "Odd Man Out," Frasier impulsively joins the lady he met at the airport for her vacation to Mexico, and he very easily gets on the airplane with no boarding pass, no passport, only his wallet, and quite literally just the clothes on his back. It's a pretty funny Out-of-Character Moment for Frasier, but there's no way that would be allowed to happen in today's post-9/11 world.
    • Particularly early on, the way Roz is treated at KACL can make for queasy viewing to modern audiences. On multiple occasions, Bulldog slaps her butt and forcibly kisses her against her will. It's played off as just being part of Bulldog's character, but it would rightly never fly nowadays. Another example is the episode "Look Before You Leap" where Niles is so horny and desperate for sex (due to him having gone months without sex and Maris teasing him) that he chases after Roz and at least one other woman before Frasier intervenes. No way could that be Played for Laughs in modern times.
    • While "High Holidays" is pretty funny, in the modern day, the good qualities of marijuana have overshadowed its historic reputation as a dangerous narcotic (although its side effects still shouldn't be taken lightly). Incidentally, Washington was one of the first states to legalize recreational marijuana in 2012.
  • Values Resonance: In Bebe Glazer's introductory episode, she persuades Frasier to take her on as his agent by insinuating how expensive tuition is going to be when Frederick goes to Harvard. About twenty years later, the high cost of college tuition (and the subsequent burden of student debt) is one of the biggest talking points about the American education system. Frasier looks even more justified today being swayed by Bebe's fearmongering.
  • The Woobie:
    • Niles. Although he's in love with another woman, he stays faithful to his cold and unloving wife for years, only to discover that she's cheating on him with their therapist. After the brutal divorce is over, the woman he truly loves is dating his divorce lawyer. And the list goes on, and on...
    • Frasier. He's often played for laughs as an Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist, but take a look at his life. He (and his brother, for the record), was horribly bullied throughout his childhood, had a father who disapproved of pretty much everything he was ever interested in, a mother who, from what we could see in Cheers, was a natural liar and at least somewhat emotionally manipulative. By the end of the series, not only does he have three very painful broken marriages/almost marriages under his belt, but a string of hostile rejections from multiple women in Seattle, and all of the various humiliations or setbacks that plague him at various points in the series. He brings some of them down on himself but it's no wonder he lies and panics so much in new relationships, considering all of the esteem shattering situations he's been through. All of this, by the way, while constantly listening to other people's problems and supporting his friends and family emotionally and (apparently) financially without so much as a thank you in return. It's a wonder he never went postal. Another example that comes to mind is the Downer Ending of the episode "Frasier's Edge." After a very lengthy and very upsetting discussion with Dr. Tewksbury, Frasier thanks his audience for honoring his life, and then he sadly adds "I just wish I knew what to do with the rest of it." Who'd have thought that mailing a greeting card could cause so much trouble?
    • Even Daphne's fiancé, Donny, can fit; yes, we're rooting for Niles and Daphne to end up together, but he still gets it rough, and he's a fairly decent guy. His counterpart, Mel, never gets the same sympathy, as she's portrayed as a much crueler individual.
      • The first scene of Donny after Daphne and Niles get together, Frasier finds him sitting in the dark in his office, despondent and talking to the groom from his wedding cake, who he's named "Mr. Chump". He furthermore tells Frasier he doesn't hate Daphne for what happened, but he weakly jokes that as a (GREAT) lawyer, suing people is just his knee-jerk reaction to handling problems. While Frasier's confession of his hand in the events gets him riled up, the scene makes it clear that he was thrown into a Heroic BSoD by what happened and just doesn't know how to handle it.
      • The group runs into him a few more times after that. The first time, he's getting married to another woman, claiming that it's true love and he's happy. The next time we see him, he's with a different woman, with the implication that he and the first one are already divorced. When he witnesses (what he thinks) is Niles and Daphne breaking up, he goes on a long, angry speech about how Niles knows how it feels to be dumped by the love of your life and "good luck trying to find someone just as good because she just ain't out there." He then turns around and realizes that he's said this right in front of his visibly shocked and irate new fiancee (but doesn't much care as he simply shrugs and says "What?").
  • WTH, Casting Agency?: Saul Rubinek — older, schlubby, not particularly attractive — was an odd choice for Donny Douglas. The character was written to be nice and sweet, but Daphne had shown in the past the ability to draw younger and more desirable men, so it wasn't obvious why he in particular would have been able to win her over. Many fans wondered why they didn't choose a younger, handsomer actor, to make Donny's primary detractions his coarseness and lack of sophistication, to contrast more with Niles and to demonstrate what he might have that Niles might not.


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