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  • Broken Base: The Xbox 360 remake is either a fun alternative to the original with interesting changes, or an utter piece of garbage that disgraces the original.
  • Genius Bonus: Tsugumi's associated ride is the Jellyfish Gondola. There's a certain species of jellyfish that is biologically immortal due to the ability to continually transition between its larval and adult forms, effectively giving it eternal youth. This is similar to Tsugumi's own circumstances as The Ageless. Uchikoshi has come out and said that this was a case of Accidentally Correct Writing.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: This game is more popular in foreign markets than it is in Japan, since it's one of the few commercial Visual Novel releases in their countries.
    • To be more specific, while it's still very popular in Japan, it's just one out of many different Visual Novels, and so has pretty much found its own niche. In other countries, where very few Visual Novels are translated, it's considered a classic and one of the greatest Visual Novels of all time.
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    • Has lessened over the years, as the West has received more Visual Novels in English combined with the fact that it's an older game now, with newer fans being attracted to these more recent games.
  • Fanon Discontinuity: Sora's route sometimes gets this treatment, as players almost universally agree on it being the worst part of the game.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: Many interactions between, Tsugumi, Sara and Kid, especially the armument in the infirmary are put in much harsher light when you know that Tsugumi is their mother.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: When everyone is down after learning the time limit until the implosion in Kid's Routes, You tries to cheer everyone up, saying "It's not like we're on a snowy mountain in the winter!"
    • There's also You's fortune telling to Takeshi, where she predicts a variety of things about Takeshi's future. By the end of the game, at least half of her prediction comes true.
    • One of Kid's arguments to You why he doesn't need to know his name is that dolphins are intelligent yet don't have names for each other. Actually...
  • Ho Yay: You and Sara have a pretty close relationship. A little too close at times. Most evident in Kid/Coco's route, when refusing to smile or laugh in front of You (in response to getting over his amnesia) results in her picking Mayo's nose in order to get Kid to lighten up. Cue Sara sensually reacts to You's finger being inserted into her nostril, followed by the words "And at that moment, Senpai and I became one." Everyone laughs it off afterwards, though Sara isn't quite as amused as the others.
    • Also apparent when Kid walks in on You and Sara cuddled together sleeping, and You being particularly possessive of Sara's body in their half-asleep state. Slightly subverted in that Kid contemplates on squeezing in between the two, if only he was sleepy.
    • And again in You's route, while not quite obvious; Sara realizes Kid and You's relationship and tells Kid she's jealous, but because it's him, she'll let it go.
    • In the remake, this becomes a Running Gag: Sara and You frequently act out dialogue similar to cliché Schoolgirl Lesbians at a boarding school (speaking to each other very tenderly, mind you) in order to tease Kid, and at the end, just when it looks like they're going to take it to the next level, they break off and laugh, usually leaving Kid blushing.
  • Inferred Holocaust: Sora's ending seems to imply that everyone except Tsugumi would die of Tief Blau, since no one was injected with the vaccine. They would probably infect everyone in the rescuing party as well, leading to the epidemy being that bit worse. Tsugumi herself would probably end up in the hands of Leiblich, and so she and her children would be in for endless torture and experimentation, without even death to spare them. But it's still supposedly a "good" ending.
  • Jerkass Woobie: Tsugumi, once you know her full story. As a kid she was infected with rare virus and spent significant part of her childhood being a lab rat, with Chami as her pretty much only friend. After she got traped in LeMU the first time she fell in love only to lose said love after just a few days. She then spent years on the run from Leibnich Pharmaceutical. When she gave birth to the kids she found happiness for a while, but then was forced by circumstances to give them up. When she finally meets them again she's tricked into reliving the same incident that made her lose Takeshi in the first place with some random guy pretending to BE Takeshi and everyone else acting like nothing ever happened. She may be a bitch but her life certainly wasn't easy.
  • Memetic Mutation: "Why is she in a washing machine?", referring to Tsugumi in the submarine.
  • Moe: Sara and Coco. You is older than average but she certainly doesn't lack cuteness.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: While not exactly a Scrappy, Kaburaki was fairly unremarkable in the original game. The remake fixes this up by giving him a lot more Character Development and personality, an actual backstory, and a much closer relationship with Takeshi.
  • Robo Ship: Takeshi x Sora
  • "Seinfeld" Is Unfunny: At the time of its release, the game was one of the first plot twist heavy visual novels that used the conventions of the medium to its advantage to stand out amongst visual novels, which at-the-time were known almost entirely for romance titles, earning much praise from audiences. However, nowadays, where plot and twist-heavy visual novels are much more commonplace, and with many of its twists and story elements being replicated in many other viusal novels, the game is considered by modern audiences to be a dull, slow-paced visual novel with twists that are far less innovative nowadays.
  • Spiritual Successor: Steins;Gate is usually seen as one, and for a good reason (both games also shared the same composer, and S;G's soundtracks are filled with suspiciously similar sounds). The fact that one of E17's writers (Kotarou Uchikoshi) are also involved in the Gaiden Game probably helps. And then there's the fact that the remake was developed by the same developer themselves (5pb.)
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  • Tear Jerker: Has it's own page. This game isn't an Utsuge for nothing.
  • Wangst / Narm: Some of the intended Tear Jerker moments may be a bit over-the-top or cliche for some. Sora's route, Tsugumi, and You'haru angsting about how cloning themselves was an unforgivable sin are all particularly bad offenders.
    • None of those compare to how they portray Hollywood Hacking. It involves duplicates of Sora battling each other with one Sora trying to buy time for the protagonists.
    • Hokuto somehow projecting himself into the past, resurrecting Takeshi through The Power of Love, and then gushing over him and repeatedly calling him "dad" throughout the entire rest of the ending can easily fall under Narm or Narm Charm depending on the player.
  • The Woobie: Almost all of the characters count, but especially Tsugumi and Yubiseiharukana.
  • Woolseyism: In the Japanese version, there's a part of the game where the characters discuss the story of Urashima Taro. Since most Westerners don't know this story, the English version has them talking about Rip Van Winkle instead, which is not only very well known, but is pretty much the same story as Urashima Taro.
    • Also, when choosing what character to play as in the Japanese version, the choice to decide was "Ore wa..." and "Boku wa..." (Takeshi uses "Ore", while the Kid uses "Boku"). This wouldn't have worked in English, obviously, so the translators instead replaced the choices with the two character's respective situations: "I've got to find my friends" (Takeshi) and "Who am I?" (Kid).
    • The Cultural Translation isn't entirely perfect as You describes Rip Van Winkle drinking a liquid that advances his aging, which was an artifact of the Urashima Taro story. Rip van Winkle drank a liquor that put him to sleep for several decades. It also loses the Lemurian connection as Urashima Taro involved a castle under the ocean.


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