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  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Her relationship with Oliver and her motivation for continuing to go back to him after their many break-ups. Either they're a genuinely loving couple who have both made mistakes and gone through a rough patch, or they're an incredibly destructive mess with both having massive issues that they've constantly failed to work on. In-canon, this has been shown with her having a stable relationship with Mid-Nite, only to abandon it to get back together with Oliver despite the fight they were having all the while.
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  • Author's Saving Throw: The New 52's version of her wasn't particularly popular during the Team 7 and Birds of Prey phase, but after she got an ongoing putting Dinah in the role of a Punk Rock singer, brought back the fishnets (as well as actually justifying the design), as well as having a likeable supporting cast, greatly improved her character. It also re-established that this wasn't a de-aged Dinah Drake, but still her daughter, Dinah Laurel Lance, just with a different origin for her last namenote ; Dinah Drake is established to have been a legandary crimefighter who worked with a group of martial artists (inferred to be the JSA) who had disappeared when Dinah jr was young, and the final issue even leads into the then-upcoming DC Rebirth and the establishment that reality had been altered.
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  • Badass Decay: Tends to get hit with this whenever she's paired with Green Arrow. This tends to be the reason many of Black Canary's more vocal fanboys and girls tend to detest the pairing. Though, in fairness, this happens a lot when she's teamed up with almost any other male hero, too.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse: She may not have much in the way of solo material compared to Wonder Woman or Supergirl, but she is considered to be one of the most beloved DC female characters.
  • Fandom Rivalry: Strangely given in-canon the two characters are long-time lovers (and naturally, this means there's a sizeable Friendly Fandoms segment for those who ship them), but Green Arrow fans and Black Canary fans often butt heads due to the fact that Canary is in-canon a much better fighter than Green Arrow but often falls victim to Badass Decay to make Green Arrow look better, and the two have had a fairly destructive romance. Canary fans resent the Badass Decay and take Dinah's side in their romantic troubles, while Arrow fans declare her a Faux Action Girl and take Ollie's side. Given both characters have had bad writing and suffered a Dork Age in their history, if one took everything a face value, they're both incredibly abusive and destructive towards each other, so there's some reasoning, but only if one ignores that most of the time, this behaviour is Out of Character for both of them.
  • Les Yay:
    • Black Canary and Oracle get a LOT of this, as well as Homoerotic Subtext. And with Huntress, to only a marginally lesser extent.
    • Black Canary and Oracle have a hands-on friendship with a lot of touching. The most blatant example is when they meet for the first time, in person, and go on a First-Name Basis. Their relaxed hug seems like romantic cuddling.
    • One Birds of Prey page has Barbara saying she feels so close to Dinah that it's almost as if they're "more than just partners". The panels cut to several photographs of her and Dinah.
    • She also has a significant amount (bordering on Foe Yay) with Lady Shiva.
  • My Real Daddy: Dinah's depiction by Gail Simone is considered to be the only one that matters by many fans.
  • Never Live It Down:
    • The '80s costume.
    • Also, her "lesbian biker" look (as it is referred to by fans) from her short-lived 90's solo series.
    • The negative parts of her relationship with Green Arrow often get poked fun at. Some have gone as far as to accuse her of being abusive towards him born from scenes of her hitting him or kicking him in the junk, which besides the fact they leave out the fact Green Arrow is at times emotionally abusive, but also that the times Dinah has hit Oliver were followed immediately by them making out or having sex, making it clear that the violence is part of their sex life.
  • Newer Than They Think: Dinah playing second-fiddle to Oliver any time they're together isn't quite as intrusive as some fans seem to see it as. Before the Grell run, Oliver and Dinah often traded saving each others' lives, and it was shown repeatedly that she was the better fighter of the two, despite some troubling dialogue choices and behaviours, and during the Hard Travelling Heroes era, she even regularly showed up both Ollie and Hal. Even the Grell run, while infamous for Dinah being tortured, sexually assaulted, and left depowered, had Dinah recover from the ordeal and later save Oliver from the same scenario. Dinah getting the short-end of the stick with Oliver is more a case from after Oliver's resurrection; since she had Took a Level in Badass before that and was so far above his weight, some writers gave her The Worf Effect so Ollie could look good.
  • Older Than They Think:
    • Her affiliation with rock predates the New 52. A 2000s comic had a flashback that showed Black Canary was a grunge fan in the 1990s as a teenager, and though its more coincidental, her fondness for fishnets, leather jackets, and combat boots are staples of punk rock fashion. The Civvie Spandex shirt/short-shorts look also first appeared back in Birds of Prey #49, as a result of Dinah only having part of her costume with her during an adventure. Her association with singing is also something that was previously focused on in Batman: The Brave and the Bold, with her character getting a number of songs in the musical episode and elsewhere.
    • Black Canary debuted in 1947 but didn't become mainstream amongst non-comic fans until the 2000s (thanks to adaptations like Justice League Unlimited, Young Justice, and Arrow).
  • Romantic Plot Tumor: Green Arrow and Black Canary's marriage felt very forced to many fans. After leaving the Birds of Prey, Dinah got a miniseries that was supposed to be about her new role as Sin's legal guardian, but in-practice was a lead-in to their then-upcoming marriage, followed by several years of her playing ineffectual sidekick to Ollie in what was supposed to be their shared title. Their relationship became a sour point for many fans because of how it effected her character growth.
  • Super Couple: Black Canary and Green Arrow have been an on-and-off couple since the 1960s and is one of DC's main Official Couples. Green Arrow has dated both the pre-Crisis and post-Crisis Black Canary's. The couple has appeared in various adaptations such as Justice League Unlimited, Young Justice, and Injustice. It's rare to be a fan of either character but not ship them together.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!:
    • Surprisingly averted with her DC You-onward rockstar touch. Her Rebirth redesign has been a hit with fans much like the similar Burnside Batgirl redesign was, while Dinah's status as a punk-rock singer has largely been welcomed due to making a lot of sense for her character and just being so unique within the medium.
    • Every time Black Canary's costume gets massively changed, fans complain and it inevitably changes back. Examples include her 1980s costume and her brief 1990s stint where she removed both her wig and fish-nets.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: During Chuck Dixon's Birds of Prey run, he had Stephanie Brown, AKA Spoiler, make occasional guest appearances, alongside having Dinah and Steph interact within other Bat-books he was writing at the time, during which Dinah became something of a Cool Big Sis to Steph and even personally dealt with her abusive father for her. This friendship and budding mentorship all but disappeared without any reference to it shortly after.
  • Why Would Anyone Take Him Back?: Black Canary and Green Arrow developed this problem after the latter proposes marriage, where both of their flaws get Flanderised. Until they actually broke up for good, their mutual treatment towards each other had became so toxic that it raised serious questions what was making them think that getting married would be a good idea, and after the wedding, things didn't get any better. It took Oliver becoming a killer for Dinah to give back her wedding ring, and even that she regretted.


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