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  • Author's Saving Throw: The Valentine's-themed Crimes of Passion one-shot anthology featured a story about Batwoman, Maggie Sawyer, and Nocturna. The story addressed what Nocturna did to Kate and, to the delight of many, featured Kate managing to mend some fences with Maggie and had Kate beat the shit out of Nocturna for raping her.note  It helps that the story finally acknowledges how Kate was traumatized by the event, and her grief is treated as valid by both Maggie and the narrative.
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  • Awesome Art: J. H. Williams III earned two Eisner Awards for his work in the initial Detective Comics run, and later won an Inkwell Award for the titular series. There's a buttload of amazing two-page spreads with outstanding panel layouts.
  • Base-Breaking Character:
    • Some readers like Wolf Spider for being another addition to Batwoman's rogues gallery, for his striking but simple costume design, and for providing a fresh (if lower-key and grounded) storyline to the series. Others hate him for starting off Batwoman's Badass Decay (especially for how cheap his tactics are) and dislike his arc specifically because of how mundane it is compared to the supernatural elements that were present before.
    • The New 52 introduction of Nocturna also earned some ire; while the readers remaining after the departure of Blackman and Williams III were intrigued by the possibilities the character could have, once in play it left a particularly sour taste in readers' mouths as Nocturna's immediate actions basically bordered on Rape as Drama, ruined the Kate/Maggie relationship and generally felt poorly handled, especially given Andreyko was responsible for the immensely popular Manhunter revamp of previous years.
  • Badass Decay:
    • In "Webs", the first arc after Blackman and Williams left, Batwoman has trouble fighting D-lister Wolf Spider (who has nowhere near her level of training) and gets pretty beat up. For reference, earlier in this same series Kate fought off demigods and took almost no damage. She was even able to defeat Bane after he punched her square in the face, and only got moderately bloodied from that and showed no bruising afterward. Even with Wolf Spider's use of fear toxin, his skill against Kate is a bit unbelievable.
    • Subsequent issues have Kate getting KO'd from a mook's sucker punch, getting dropped from a shotgun blast when her suit was previously shown to fully withstand machine-gun fire, and having trouble with personal issues that she seems to deal with in out-of-character ways; all these items seem out-of-place compared to earlier issues.
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  • Complete Monster: Maro Ito is a former warlock who became a servant of the Medusa cult, planning to unleash monsters from Greek mythology upon mankind. Starting off by drowning the children of Maria Salvaje, thus turning her into the Weeping Woman, Maro goes off to create several more monsters and have them kill and kidnap young women and children, whom he used for Human Sacrifice. Manipulating Batwoman to help kill his master Christopher Falchion, Maro becomes the chief servant of Medusa and helps her free many monsters from the myths, who then proceed to cause chaos all over Gotham, killing hundreds. Later on, he assists Medusa in the summoning of Mother of all Monsters to bring the end of mankind.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse: Believe it or not, but the Kathy Kane Batwoman was originally popular back in the Silver Age, and many readers wrote in asking for DC to bring her back after she was removed from Batman's supporting cast during the 1960s.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • Given the heavy amount of Executive Meddling used on Justice League: Cry for Justice, it's probably a very good thing that Batwoman didn't have a stronger role in the story. This can be further strengthened by how universally reviled the series ended up being.
    • In Elegy, a flashback panel shows Kate wearing a t-shirt with the logo of Finnish goth rock band The 69 Eyes. About three years later, the cover of the band's single version of the song "Love Runs Away" featured a large red bat symbol on a black background.
    • Issue #18 shows a view from Kate and Maggie's new apartment, purchased in the wake of the destruction of Kate's penthouse in the previous arc. One of the buildings visible, and seemingly only a couple blocks away, is the distinctive Old Wayne Tower. This would later become the site of the Belfry in Detective Comics (Rebirth).
    • Cameron Chase's reveal as a lesbian in the Rebirth era provides a whole new dimension to her antagonism toward Kate.
  • Seasonal Rot: Some feel it set in when Greg Rucka left the book, but many felt Blackman and Williams did a good job continuing the story. Most will agree that those two leaving the book is where it went downhill. J.H. Williams's III art is sorely missed, breaking up Maggie and Kate is almost universally agreed upon as bad, and the conclusion to Mr. Bones's arc was rushed after being delayed for four months. Subsequent arcs by Marc Andreyko feel inferior both to the previous Batwoman issues as well as his other work. Some stories feel rushed, with numerous villains and plot points all vying for attention with little build up and often with unsatisfying conclusions. Other elements, like Killer Croc and the heroic Religion of Crime sect, have been dropped entirely. Kate also undergoes significant Badass Decay as she becomes less assertive and gets beat up by a couple of C-list villains who would ordinarily give her no trouble at all, with little to no adequate explanation as to why.
  • Ship-to-Ship Combat: Kate/Renee vs. Kate/Maggie. Fans will debate over which pairing had the better chemistry, which stories were better, etc.
  • Tear Jerker: Has its own page.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: Inevitable with the change in creative teams. Complaints cover virtually all aspects of the comic: the writing is worse, the art is worse, the supernatural element is gone, and characters are no longer themselves, especially Batwoman herself, who went through significant Badass Decay both physically and psychologically.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: The Kathy Kane Batwoman is viewed by many as a Damsel Scrappy who only existed for the sake of Batman having a girlfriend to dispel Ho Yay subtext. However, some readers believed she had the potential to be a good character on her own since her first appearance demonstrated she could be a competent crimefighter, had Batman not convinced her at the end to give up her identity for rather hypocritical reasons. That didn't stop her from becoming Batwoman a few more times, but her competency as a crimefighter was severely diminished.
  • Win Back the Crowd: The announcement of Marguerite Bennett, popular for her feminist and LGBT themes, as the writer of Batwoman Rebirth.

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