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YMMV / America Chavez

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  • Author's Saving Throw:
    • According to her original creators, it was an important characteristic that she was Going Commando while superheroing... Subsequent writers and artists wisely chose to ignore this detail completely.
    • America's solo series needed to explain why a woman from a very weird alternate reality sounded so much like a Bronx Latina. Gabby Rivera's first swing at that explanation - that America spent years porting her way through different South and Central American communities - came with a pair of Unfortunate Implications. First, it suggested the existence of a single, monolithic Latin culture, and second and worse, it suggested America was an outsider appropriating that culture. In subsequent mentions, Rivera has gone with the more reasonable idea that America's family and her home portion of the Utopian Parallel had a distinctively Latin-esque culture of their own.
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    • Her second solo book, America Chavez: Made in the USA, is already getting a much better reception from fans than her first. It relies on her characterization from previous books like the West Coast Avengers and doesn't discard her girlfriend, Ramone Watts, from that book, while also introducing an interesting retcon about the family who adopted her when she fell into Earth-616.
  • Broken Base: Her 2017 solo series. Either it's a fun progressive ride with cool adventures going on, or it's a terrible "trying too hard to be edgy and modern" comic with no plot and immensely xenophobic, and then there's the So Bad, It's Good camp.
  • Critical Dissonance: Comic Book Roundup, a review aggregator not unlike Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic, has the series getting a lot of praise from comic review sites and blogs, but terrible review scores from users.
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  • Funny Moments: An almost tragic meta example. 4chan managed to sneak a mail onto the letters page of the sixth issue of her solo, comparing the run to The Room.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: A number of detractors bashed an outfit America wears in first issue of her series, saying it looks like recolored costume Conner Kent worn in the 90's and no one would wear it today. One guess what Conner is wearing in Young Justice (2019).
  • Memetic Mutation: "I'm Captain America." "Wait, did you say Hitler?" Explanation 
  • My Real Daddy: Kieron Gillen's interpretation in Young Avengers made her much more popular and really the only Breakout Character of Vengeance. This run also officially established her as lesbian, and first introduced her to Kate Bishop.
    • This can also apply to Joe Casey and Nick Dragotta, being her creators...which would later have them spawn a one-shot with their own America, America Vasquez, who discovered she's a comic book character(still imagine the meeting between the two Americas)
  • Never Live It Down: She only said "Holy Menstruation" once, in the first issue of her solo. Fans and detractors alike have been treating that line like her catchphrase ever since.
    • The 2017 run was a Audience-Coloring Adaptation for America Chavez. Any book, show or game with her in it will invariably generate buzz solely from people making fun of America and expecting her to act like she did in the run.
  • Narm:
    • Some of the quotes from the solo fall into this. The one quote everyone cites as one of the worst in the Marvel lineup is "What the holy menstruation are you doing here?".
    • Many Spanish-speaking readers have said they were completely removed from the moment because the Spanish felt like it was written by Google Translate. Which isn't surprising when you consider Gabby Rivera doesn't actually speak Spanish.
    • The Leelumultipass Phi Theta Betas. A sorority group that introduces themselves by snapping their fingers and assists America by fighting bad guys with the power of dancing!
    • Hitler, the supreme commander of the Third Reich, is in a middle of a battlefield when America travels back in time to WWII for seemly no reason than to give America Steve Rogers' "punching Hitler" moment.
  • Narm Charm: Quite a few readers have taken this attitude with the 2017 series (those who like it at least) given the Epic Fail at being representative of millennials. For example, America #5 which has the following bizarre homage to Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
    "Mix one large dose of rebellion and one half-cup of 'zero cares given' into your road trip for optimal results. Stop for gas, conversations with other dreamy babes, and fields covered in wild flowers."
  • So Bad, It's Good: There's people in the solo series' "hatedom" that genuinely enjoy it because of how bad it is. Hey, it may be bad, but it's unintentionally hilarious as well.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic: The first six issues of the book state that America's tired of being a superhero and helping people is an enormous bore for her. This includes being transported to World War II and having the opportunity to stop Hitler (she punches him) but not doing it. Taken from a serious perspective, which this comic doesn't seem to be going for at all, she's a Smug Super par excellence.


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