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What An Idiot / Persona 4

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"Are you a pack of imbeciles!?"
Naoto Shirogane

  • Dojima, the player character's uncle, finds a letter addressed to said character from a serial killer who's had the local police department tied up for the whole game. This letter telling him, basically, that if he rescues any more people then somebody close to him will die.
    You'd expect: Dojima to watch his own family, the only people who could possibly classify as "close to the player character", while learning the truth about what's going on from his nephew.
    Instead: Dojima admittedly tries the latter... By taking his nephew in to the police station, thereby taking in for interrogation the only person he knows could logically not only not be the murderer, but may well be the only one who can stop the murders. During this, he leaves his daughter Nanako home alone... As in a person who perfectly fits the bill for who the murderer is going to target. Naturally, while the two are in the police station, Nanako is kidnapped by somebody who is quite evidently not Dojima's nephew.
    And Even Worse: One of the options you do get is the ability to come clean and tell Dojima about your ability to go into the world behind the TV. He quite naturally doesn't believe you, and in fact becomes even more suspicious now that you have, in his mind, confirmed that you are lying to him. Too bad there isn't a TV right there in the room that the MC could walk over to and just stick his hand into to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is telling the truth about the murders. Oh. Wait. There freaking is!
    • Another instance, admittedly retrospective: Taro Namatame has been kidnapping people throughout the entire game and throwing them into the Television, as he believes that this will keep them safe from someone trying to kill them.
      You'd Expect: For him to do some sort of reconnaissance in this new place, as even a cursory glance will reveal that it is infested with monsters and generally not a happy place. Or at least that he'd check up on the people he kidnapped.
      Instead: He just chucks them in there and does nothing else, meaning that your party has to go in and rescue them. Admittedly, the first victim he personally throws in is also the first victim you manage to save, so as far as he knows he really is saving them this way — but it's a complete coincidence, and had this coincidence not come to pass, he'd have been personally and primarily responsible for Yukiko's death.
  • Yosuke and Chie are stalking Kanji in order to get answers from him. Because they left the tree and their loud talking, he spotted them. To make a distraction, Yosuke claims that he and Chie are just two crazy lovebirds.
    You'd Expect: For Chie to know that Yosuke is not in love with her and go along with him to get Kanji not to know they're following him.
    Instead: She just denies this. When they panic and run away, Kanji quickly realizes that they're following him. And then there was a wacky chase scene. ("NOOO COME BACK I LOVE GIIIIRLS!!")
    • Speaking of Yosuke and Chie; earlier on, he borrowed her "Trial of the Dragon" DVD. He accidentally broke it.
      You'd Expect: Knowing fully well that she has a short temper with him, for Yosuke to remain calm and give it to Chie without saying he did something to it, then walk away calmly afterwards.
      Instead: He just gives her the DVD in a panic and tries to run away. Three seconds later, she pursues him and gives him a critical hit to the nads.
  • One in the Amagi Inn: So, the boys got kicked out of the Hot Spring even though it was their turn.
    You'd Expect: For the boys to report the incident to the staff at the Amagi Inn.
    Instead: The boys try to get back at the girls by sneaking in their room, causing more hilarity to ensue.
  • Another one in the Amagi Inn: the boys plan to sleep with the girls as revenge for what happened at the hot springs. Earlier on, they found out that Yukiko has talismans on their room, which explains their misery over the events of their stay.
    You'd Expect: For them to do a sweep of the room, searching for additional talismans and checking to see if the room they got into is where the girls are sleeping at.
    Instead: They just sneak into a dark room & as soon as the lights are turned on, it's Hanako and Ms. Kashiwagi! In other words, they got the wrong room.
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  • Naoto comes up with a plan to catch the killer: she noticed that the victims tend to be people who appear on TV specials, so she agrees to an interview in order to bait the culprit into targeting her.
    You'd Expect: That she install cameras and keep her gun with her in order to be able to defeat the culprit or at least catch his face.
    Instead: She doesn't do anything in preparation for her showdown with a serial kidnapper/murderer, and when the culprit rings her doorbell, he has no more problem kidnapping her than he had the others. Her plan turns out to be completely pointless and does not reveal anything about the killer's identity.
  • Rise's arrival in Inaba: She's a big celebrity, but decides to take a hiatus in a small town that has recently been hit with a series of murders.
    You'd Expect: That she'd have a bodyguard with her. Just because she's taking a hiatus doesn't mean the paparazzi and stalkers are.
    Instead: She heads to Inaba with no security whatsoever.
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  • Saki's Murder: She is a minor and a potential witness to a murder.
    You'd Expect: That her parents would have been present at the police station or at least have been called to pick her up.
    If Not That: The police taking her home after her interrogation.
    You'd Also Expect: That somebody would have asked Adachi, the last person seen with her, what had happened and piece together that he was also at the Amagi Inn when Yamano disappeared.
    Yet Another Thing You'd Expect: That somebody checked security footage to see what happened to Saki.
    Instead: None of those happen. The second murder occurred because of a police force that would make Chief Wiggum facepalm.
  • You and Yosuke need some weapons to safely explore the TV world.
    You'd Expect: Yosuke to transfer the weapons to you discreetly.
    Instead: He shows up at the Junes food court and begins swinging them around in public like a maniac.
    The Result: "You were taken to the police station with Yosuke as suspects..." "Your weapons have been confiscated..."
  • The Investigation Team preemptively stakes out the Marukyu Tofu shop to prevent Rise from being kidnapped. They also invite Adachi and wholly reveal their intentions to him, not caring that they opted to avoid the police earlier. After some time, an obvious stalker is caught sneaking up to Rise's room by climbing an electric pole. Yosuke thinks that he might be the killer.
    You'd Expect: A few people to stay at the shop and watch over Rise, while the others chase him. Since Rise is an idol particularly famed in this town and someone who just arrived, she must have a lot of stalkers and paparazzi problems. Hence it must be unsafe to assume the first suspicious person they see is the criminal they're looking for.
    You'd also expect: Once he is caught, the kids would actually check to see if the man had powers similar to them and was capable of executing those crimes.
    Instead: Everyone, including Adachi, chases after the stalker, leaving Rise alone in the process, and straight up accuse him of being a murderer, thinking their case has been solved.
    The Result: Rise gets kidnapped. While Adachi does receive an explanation for his boneheadedness in hindsight (he is the killer and wanted Rise to get abducted), the Investigation Team has no excuse.
  • The police recruit a famous detective to help them with the case. When they arrest Kubo, said detective realizes a few things don't add up about the most recent death.
    You'd Expect: The police would hear her out and confirm these suspicions for themselves. They brought her in for a reason after all.
    Instead: They brush her off as a dumb kid.
    The Result: Her suspicions are correct and their suspect turns out to be a copycat, allowing the murderer to continue to operate unhindered.
    Even Worse: Because they don't want to look like idiots for arresting the wrong guy, they prioritize saving face over tracking down a still unknown serial killer.

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