No longer being in the same city/state/country, falling out that way...
To Kill a Mockingbird author Harper Lee and Truman Capote, who had been friends since childhood. Capote was jealous that Lee won a Pulitzer right off the bat with her first book, and that he never won one despite being a famous and acclaimed author in his own right. Meanwhile, Lee had helped Capote with the research for In Cold Blood and felt like Capote didn't give her the proper credit for her assistance.
Vercingetorix and Julius Caesar, if the latter is to be believed.
Also with Caesar and Pompey the Great. Caesar actually still considered Pompey a friend during the Civil War between them and genuinely grieved at Pompey's brutal murder. Likewise, Caesar and Brutus. He spared the latter for siding with Pompey and was supposedly quite shocked when the latter stabbed him.
Pete Doherty and Carl Barât of The Libertines were estranged after the band's breakup in 2004 before reconciling in 2009, leading to the band's one-off reunion a year later followed by a permanent reunion four years after.
And on this topic, Syd Barrett and the rest of Pink Floyd. Barrett left the band due to his increasing mental and psychological problems, and eventually withdrew himself from society all together. Years later, Syd visited the band in the studio while they were recording their latest album. However, they didn't recognize him at first due to his having gained weight and shaved off his eyebrows and hair, and when they did eventually recognize him, it caused Roger Waters and Richard Wright to be reduced to tears. And the song they were recording at the time? "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", which was their tribute to Syd, and he didn't know that it was about him. Aside from an encounter with Waters at Harrods a few years later, this would be the last time the band saw Barrett until the day he died. However, David Gilmour ensured that Barrett would continue to receive royalties for the rest of his life, enabling him to live comfortably.
The Civil Wars: Joy Williams and John Paul White had a fall-out towards the end of recording their second eponymous album, likely due to creative differences. This reached a breaking point when they cancelled their European tour and broke up as a duo 2 years later. Per Joy Williams, the two have yet to ever speak almost a decade later.
Don Henley and Glenn Frey wrote the title song to The Long Run partially based on their strained friendship and how they were optimistic that they would work it out like they always do. The band (and their friendship) broke up for over a decade a year later, but reunited in 1993 until permanently disbanding in 2016 after Frey's death, though they reformed a year later.
When Eagles guitarist Don Felder refused to sign a deal that would give band leaders Frey and Henley a much larger share of band profits, that resulted in his firing from the band in 2001, and alienated him from everyone else in the band, including the laid-back Timothy B. Schmit and Joe Walsh. He remains friends with ex-Eagles Bernie Leadon (dating back to their high school days in Florida) and Randy Meisner, though.
To be fair, Felder had long had a contentious relationship with Henley and Frey and was the target of the latter's ire during the Eagles' last gig in 1980 before their 13-year disbandment — a benefit gig for Senator Alan Cranston where Frey was audibly threatening Felder during the set.
Ice Cube left the group due to royalty issues and a distrust of their manager Jerry Heller. His first solo album, AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted sold well, though he avoided mentioning his former bandmates. The remaining members, possibly jealous of his solo success, dissed him on 100 Miles and Runnin' and Niggaz 4 Life. Cube responded with the brutal"No Vaseline". He criticized Eazy-E for siding with Jerry Heller and accused both of them of exploiting the rest of the group. There turned out to be some truth to his words.
Dr. Dre left the group for pretty much the same reason and joined Death Row Records. When Eazy-E wouldn't release Dre from Ruthless Records, Suge Knight threatened him with violence. Dre would later diss Eazy on "Fuck With Dre Day", with the video featuring a character named "Sleazy-E" who ran around desperately trying to get money. E responded with "Real Muthaphuckkin' G's" and "It's On", the former of which had a music video featuring pictures of Dr. Dre dressed in sequins and facial makeup from his days in the rap group World Class Wrecking Crew; prompting Eazy to make several homophobic remarks about Dre, and exposing that his claims he was a street gangster were entirely false.
By 1994, even MC Ren got fed up with Eazy-E, calling him a "big-head" and "wannabe mega-star", and even suggesting that N.W.A should reunite without him. He later said that the only relationship he had with Eazy-E was through Ruthless Records.
All bad blood within the group ceased following Eazy-E's diagnosis with AIDS. Shortly before his death, he managed to patch up his relationships with his former crew.
This seems to be the case with Morrissey and Johnny Marr, and is often cited one of the reasons The Smiths broke up to begin with, and one of the other reasons why the Smiths won't have a reunion. That and a wide range of reasons, both Marr and Morrissey, state every time speculation of a reunion is said.
Before Genghis Khan was Genghis Khan, he was Temüjin, and he was best friends since childhood with a boy named Jamukha. Eventually, Jamukha was declared a Khan himself. Temüjin refused to accept this, and the two who had been as brothers went to war with one another, with Temüjin being victorious due to his more progressive methods and tactics, along with Jamukha's forces betraying him. After rewarding the traitors, Temüjin offered the defeated Jamukha a place by his side so that they could resume their friendship, but Jamukha declined with the following speech:
Jamukha: What use is there in my becoming a companion to you? On the contrary, sworn brother, in the black night I would haunt your dreams, in the bright day I would trouble your heart. I would be the louse in your collar, I would become the splinter in your door-panel... as there was room for only one sun in the sky, there was room only for one Mongol lord.
Then he asked to be killed without having his blood spilled. Temujin's soldiers broke his back. To be fair, being killed without having your blood spilled was the Mongol way to show respect for royalty. Jamukha asked to die as a Khan, and Temüjin complied.
Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie were a ubiquitous duo in the early 2000s until they had a public falling out sometime after filming the third season of The Simple Life, necessitating the fourth season to adopt a new format so the two could be filmed separately. They returned to speaking terms and shot the fifth season together, but appearances together since then have been few and far between.
Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung, as seen in A Dangerous Method. After a few years as colleagues, Jung tried to convince Freud that focusing purely on the sexual roots of human motivation was too limiting and that religion wasn't entirely bunk. He believed that the subconscious is not so much the repository of repression as it is the wellspring of creativity. He also promoted the idea of the Archetypal Character, and that many actions are based on patterns that tend to repeat themselves. Freud disagreed with him as well as what he considered Jung's lack of professionalismnote Jung had a sexual relationship with one of his patients, Sabina Spielrein, then mentored her in a Teacher/Student Romance, and worst of all, in Freud's eyes, lied to him about it by slandering Spielrein and that ended their friendship.
Albert Camus and Jean-Paul Sartre were friendly for a span of 6 years between 1944-1952. They split because Camus became a die-hard anti-communist while Sartre was sympathetic to Marxism and critical of capitalist nations in the Cold War. The split became political when Camus supported French colonialism in Algeria, which Sartre opposed, while the latter refused to say one word against the USSR's policies between 1952-1956, much to Camus' anger.
Friedrich Nietzsche and Richard Wagner. Nietzsche even wrote two books explaining his perspective: The Case of Wagner to mark his break, and Nietzsche contra Wagner to explain how his thoughts on music had been consistent, but his earlier application of them to Wagner had been incorrect.
Harry Houdini and Arthur Conan Doyle were very good friends who bonded over a shared interest of the Occult, Spiritualism to be exact. The two would go around looking for people who claimed to be psychics or mediums or witches, etc, but where Houdini was an Open but heavy Skeptic who believed everything to be fake until proven otherwise, Doyle tended to believe everything at face value (ironic). The two eventually went different ways after Houdini declared Doyle's wife, who claimed to be a Ghost writer, a fake.note Doyle's wife said she had a message to Houdini from Houdini's mother, but the message was in English; Houdini was born in Hungary to a Jewish family, and his mother never spoke a word of English.
David Letterman and Jay Leno. Leno had been one of Letterman's idols when he began doing standup comedy, then once Letterman began to make a name for himself in The '70s, Leno became one of his major boosters. Once Letterman started hosting Late Night, Leno was his most frequent guest in the show's first few seasons. This in turn helped Leno get a regular gig as Johnny Carson's fill-in host. Then Carson retired and NBC picked Leno to replace Carson, a job that Letterman considered himself the heir-apparent for.
Lil' Kim and Nicki Minaj used to be on good terms, believe it or not. Nicki Minaj used to give a shout out to her in interviews as an inspiration, and there are pictures of them smiling and putting their arms around each other at a concert. Minaj also said she was a die-hard fan of Kim as a kid. Then, for reasons ambiguous, they became enemies and wrote various songs targeted at one another defaming the other, and calling each other very profane words. They still put references to how much the other one sucks in their mixtapes, and are sure to bring the other one up in the interviews even when not asked.
Another notable historical example was William Marshal, known for actually keeping to his word in an era of political expediency. He followed Henry II's eldest son, then followed Henry II, even when Richard (the Lionheart) rebelled against his father. The trope comes in due to William tutoring Richard and even being good friends, yet they came face to face during the retreat of King Henry's army. William Marshal, owing to being perhaps the most skillful warrior in Christendom at the time, was able to kill Richard's horse and let the man live. Richard forgave him for that, as he was only being loyal to his king.
In another historical example involving the Plantagenets, this was almost certainly part of the reason the legendary feud between Henry II and Thomas Becket was so acrimonious (and ended so badly). The two were initially close friends; Becket's appointment was supposed to give Henry greater control over the Church in England. Instead Becket found he had a very real religious vocation and became a staunch defender of the rights of the Church against Henry, culminating in Becket's brutal murder at the unwitting instigation of Henry. It's made all the more poignant by the fact many accounts state Becket explicitly begged Henry *not* to appoint him Archbishop of Canterbury because he feared this was precisely what would happen. Henry was in fact devastated by Becket's death, and became one of the earliest and most fervent believers in his saintly cult.
John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon were friendly while serving in Congress together. Kennedy reportedly donated money to Nixon's 1950 Senate campaign, and the two retained offices across the hall from each other after Nixon became Vice President. The presidential campaign in 1960 ended their friendship; Nixon felt especially angry that when he was hospitalized, Kennedy neither visited him nor suspended his campaign. For Nixon, this mutated into near-pathological hatred of not only JFK but his brothers as well.
Wil Wheaton and River Phoenix became friends after starring together in Stand by Me, but their friendship fell apart as Phoenix developed drug problems which would sadly end his life.
During The American Revolution, the friendships between the Founding Fathers often ebbed in the decade of Washington's first presidency.
During the Revolution, Benedict Arnold was friendly with many of the key figures, and George Washington had commended him on several occasions, but because of political factors, Arnold never got a promotion commensurate to his achievements despite winning the crucial Battle of Saratoga (which convinced the French that the Patriots could win if they got additional support). After the Revolution, Thomas Jefferson and Washington (who were never quite close) maintained cordial relations that ended when Jefferson wrote a critical article on Washington in a newspaper under a pseudonym. Washington was quite cool with Jefferson after that.
The most spectacular example is of course the Mêlée à Trois of Aaron Burr, Jefferson, and Alexander Hamilton. While never intimate friends as is sometimes depicted, Burr and Hamilton were on friendly terms, they and their wives occasionally dined together and socialized, they worked in law practice together, and of course were both New Yorkers. However, when Burr won a Senate election against Hamilton's father-in-law, Philip Schuyler, any friendliness there had been between them ended, and Burr became friendlier with Jefferson, who hated Hamilton. Then in the (hopelessly flawed) 1800 election, circumstancesnote (in those days, electors cast two ballots the winner would be President and the runner-up would be Vice President the Framers in 1787 did not anticipate organized political parties; this meant 1800 was legally a four-person race, and no one got a majority so the election was thrown to the House, controlled by a lame-duck Federalist majority who wanted to stick it to Jefferson by voting for Burr once John Adams was eliminated) resulted in Burr Jefferson's running-mate and campaign manager nearly winning the top job himself, but was denied as a result of Hamilton's influence combined with negative press by fellow Republicans George Clinton and Robert Livingston. Yes, Hamilton still hated Jefferson, but he also thought Jefferson was "by far not so dangerous a man", apparently hating Burr more.
Jefferson and John Adams were a zigzagged example. Close friends during the Revolution, their divergent political philosophies, starting when they both served in Washington's administration, drove them apart to the point they founded rival parties against each other. However, after they retired from politics, they reconciled their differences, and by the time of their deaths (on the same day), they were the closest of friends again.
This became much more deadly during The French Revolution where close friends who once allied on common points became polarized as a result of political factionalism and eventually sent each other to the guillotine. The most famous and tragic example is that of Maximilien Robespierre, Georges Danton, and Camille Desmoullins. Robespierre and Desmoullins went to school together, Desmoullins and Danton practised law together and Robespierre and Danton allied on many key issues. Then during the Reign of Terror, Robespierre after initially supporting Danton and Desmoullins for several months, turned on them after a corruption scandal was unearthed and sent them both to the guillotine. Danton issued a Dying Curse to Robespierre on the way to the guillotine.
Georges Danton: You'll follow us shortly, your house will be beaten down and salt sown in the place where it stood!
On the Night when Robespierre met his downfall, one of the Thermidorians invoked this, leading to Robespierre's final recorded exchange:
Man in Crowd: It is Danton's blood that is choking you! Robespierre: Danton! It is Danton then you regret? Cowards! Why did you not defend him?
Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin are sometimes perceived as friends thanks to their Communist sympathies, and that eventually Lenin saw Stalin as too violent and wrote to Leon Trotsky to ask him to unite to try and get rid of Stalin.
Stalin and Lenin's closeness is exaggerated by later media portrayals, and partly thanks to Stalin exaggerating his connection to Lenin. Lenin was personally quite aloof and kept himself apart partly because of The Chains of Commanding, and partly because he wanted to institute professionalism in leadership, where in Russia friendship and patronage reigned. Trotsky would later claim closeness to Lenin as well, but the two of them were closer to Vitriolic Best Buds and Lenin was skeptical of Trotsky as well. Indeed Trotsky claimed to be a Menshevik who once castigated Lenin only to finally become the latter's Number Two during the Russian Civil War. Lenin for his part was friendly with some Mensheviks and he continued to admire George Plekhanov even after their friendship and association ended.
What for Lenin was crossing the line twice was that Stalin became angry at Nadezha Krupskaya, Lenin's wife, for updating Lenin in party-related manners when the doctors told him to rest. Lenin was receiving daily fake Pravda numbers with good news (the HBO movie Stalin portrays this incident), and Nadezha realized that Stalin was trying to isolate Lenin. Stalin confronted Nadezha and insulted her, calling her a "whore", which reallymade Lenin upset and started a chain reaction that led to his secret block with Trotsky and his final Testament.
Nikolai Bukharin and Stalin were allies during The Soviet Twenties, and Bukharin seemingly allied with Stalin against Trotsky and the Left Opposition, but eventually Stalin had him submitted to The Purge. Bukharin wrote Stalin a note asking, "Koba, why do you need me to die?" ("Koba" being a revolutionary nickname used by Stalin in his younger days; something that showed how close he and Bukharin had once been) before his execution; Stalin kept that in his desk drawer and it remained there till his death.
China's Communist Party seems to regard its nationalist counterpart headquartered in Taiwan in this way. The two parties have common origins as well as a long history of opposing the Japanese. In the overwhelmingly popular Mainland Chinese war dramas, you'd be surprised how many positive characters are nationalists (who were admittedly much more active in the anti-Japanese resistance) rather than communists. It seems that the party line states the nationalists were a decent bunch that just got hijacked by the overly ambitious and capitalist-influenced Chiang Kai-shek shortly after the war, and even Chiang Kai-shek himself is seen more as a Tragic Villain who just made the mistake of pulling off an ill-fated FaceHeel Turn (his wife, for instance, a patron of China's air forces, is widely revered as a war heroine throughout the country).
It's also important to note that capitalists (or bourgeoisie) in China are not as vehemently hated as, say, they were in the Soviet Union since their attempt at bringing down the colonial rule by toppling the Imperial monarchy and later contribution to the anti-Japanese war effort are both well-remembered and noted in the official history textbooks. In short, capitalism is not as much an enemy ideology as just one that didn't quite work out for China in spite of its good intentions, especially compared to socialism.
During World War II, Russia was one of America's closest allies against the Nazis. Then the war ended, and the USSR and US became Arch Enemies during the Cold War, often fighting proxy wars across the globe. In one of these proxy wars, America's top allies were groups of Islamist militants who fought the Soviets in Afghanistan. These militant groups went on to become Al Qaeda and the Taliban.
Although it is worth noting that the US and the USSR were only really friends during the war. The Americans and Russians had treated each other as rivals at best as far back as the Russo-Japanese War (which saw quite a bit of unofficial American assistance to the Japanese due in part to popular opinion about the pogroms suffered by the Jews in Imperial Russia).
Even during the war, they were hardly friends, other than in the 'enemy of my enemy' sense. The USSR used the opportunity to build up its spy-networks in the USA and the Americans were already shaping a post-war policy that would limit Soviet expansion, particularly in the pacific.
However, they did have their moments of genuine friendship, as Franklin D. Roosevelt and Joseph Stalin had a surprisingly warm relationship beyond simply being allies of convenience, the two countries consistently published propaganda that portrayed the other country in a very positive way, they held a lot of genuine goodwill for each other as the war unfolded, and most of all, their encounter at the Elbe River was one of the most heartwarming things of World War 2.
Boxing superstar Floyd Mayweather Jr. and popular Rapper 50 Cent. They used to be seen everywhere together, but had a falling out in 2011, which resulted in a brief Twitter feud.
Fiddy and The Game were good friends until 2004 when the latter left G Unit on bad terms after the former said that he was disloyal in saying that he didn't want to take part in the band's feuds with Nas, Jadakiss, and Fat Joe. The rappers threw disses at each other until 2006 when The Game offered the rapper to make amends, which did not happen. Another failed attempt at reconciliation was when they collaborated in a tribute song to Michael Jackson, shortly after the singer's death in 2009. The Game apologised, but 50 didn't accept it. They would eventually end their feud in 2016.
Before the infamous East Coast Vs. West Coast Hip Hop war in the mid-90s, late rappers Tupac Shakur and The Notorious B.I.G. were good friends and even appeared on some television interviews together. Tupac helped Biggie Smalls get into the business and even helped him with his lyrical style that he would later become famous for. All this changed after Tupac was shot five times and robbed while at Quad Recording Studios. He survived the shooting and blamed Biggie Smalls and Sean Puffy Combs (P Diddy), who were also there at the time of the shooting. Being an artist signed to Bad Boy Records, P Diddy's label, Biggie Smalls denied having anything to do with the shooting and defended his boss. Tupac would then start doing interviews dissing Biggie Smalls. Biggie Smalls mostly ignored the comments by Tupac and would change the subject whenever asked about it during an interview. Meanwhile, he released a hit rap song called, "Who Shot Ya?" Many fans immediately thought it was a Tupac diss and him admitting that he was responsible. Biggie Smalls, however, denied it and claimed it was just another rap song. Tupac responded by releasing "Hit Em Up", his famous Take That! where he admitted to having sex with popular R&B artist Faith Evans, who was also Biggie Smalls' wife. Biggie Smalls was shocked when he heard this and soon became separated from her, though that was due to his high-profile affairs with Lil' Kim and Charli Baltimore than the diss. And it would only get worse.
Luis Buñuel and Salvador Dalí had a very nasty falling out during the production of L'Age d'Or, due to Buñuel's Communist sympathies and Dali's support for aristocrats and, later, Spanish dictator Generalissimo Francisco Franco. They never resolved their issues either.
Akira Kurosawa and Toshiro Mifune, who worked together in sixteen films, ended their friendship after the making of their movie Red Beard. It's said that Kurosawa insisted that Mifune grow a natural beard and prohibited him from shaving it, preventing Mifune from taking any other acting jobs and nearly bankrupting him. Afterwards, their careers took different turns; Mifune continued enjoying success with a number of samurai and war-themed movies and even became popular amongst American audiences in 1980. On the other hand, Kurosawa's output of films dwindled and garnered rather mixed responses. They finally reconciled in 1993, while attending the funeral of their mutual friend Ishiro Honda, the director of Godzilla. Sadly, they never collaborated again, nor did they have the chance to fully reconstruct their friendship; Mifune died in 1997 and Kurosawa a year later.
Alfred Hitchcock and Bernard Herrmann were collaborators who spurred each other to make their best work in their collaborations, Hitchcock made his best films and Herrmann wrote his greatest scores. Then Hitchcock on Torn Curtain insisted that Herrmann change his score and follow his instructions. Herrmann pointed out that their agreement from Day 1 was that he would have total control over the music and that Hitchcock, who was not a trained musician, would not be Prima Donna Director on him. They parted ways acrimoniously and never worked again though they apparently reconciled shortly before Herrmann's death. Everyone agrees that none of the music in Hitchcock's final films is a patch on Herrmann's work, even with the likes of Maurice Jarre and John Williams composing, while Herrmann did brilliant work right till the end (his final score was Taxi Driver).
During The Hollywood Blacklist many close friends were forced by Congress to testify and denounce anybody they knew as communists, which often meant their friends, and in some cases their husbands or wives. The climate of paranoia and denunciations ended many friendships and marriages. The most famous example is Elia Kazan who after opposing the hearings initially, finally gave names to the Committee and wrote an Ad defending his actions. Kazan was an ex-Communist and widely admired as a leftist critic and everyone saw these actions as terrible betrayal, and it hurt Kazan's friendship with Arthur Miller and many others.
Orson Welles and producer John Houseman worked on all of Welles' Mercury productions and Houseman produced Citizen Kane. Yet they had a falling out on the same project and both of them resorted to name-calling each other in various interviews. Welles said later that Houseman, who was rumoured to be gay (though he married twice in his life and had two children with his second and last wife), was in love with him and was hurt when Welles could not return his affections, while Houseman said that Welles was an egomaniac Workaholic who never properly acknowledged the pressures he put on Houseman and other people around him. Houseman later went on to become a prominent Hollywood producer on several notable films (the likes of Vincente Minnelli and Nicholas Ray), and Welles went on to make several films in the decades later but far more erratic and slapdash, lacking the stability Houseman gave him.
One famous example was Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis. During The '50s, Martin and Lewis were a highly successful double act and made several films together, but then their partnership and friendship ended by the end of the decade due to Martin being tired of being the straight man and wanting to do other things. By the time they made their last film, Hollywood or Bust, they weren't speaking to each other and didn't do so for twenty years. On a moving note, in September 1976, mutual friend Frank Sinatra orchestrated a surprise appearance by Martin on Lewis' annual Labor Day telethon for the Muscular Dystrophy Association, saying only "I have a friend who loves what you do every year". The pair beamed and embraced, and then had a few minutes of friendly banter, during which Lewis asked Martin, "Uh, so, you workin'?" The brief reunion was big national news and, according to Lewis, they spoke "every day after that".
Butch Hartman and Steve Marmel. The two were partners and the closest of friends during the pre-2008 episodes of The Fairly OddParents and the first two seasons of Danny Phantom. The two had a falling out over the third season of the latter (Marmel wanted the show to take a more serious route and supported Danny's relationship with Valerie Gray while Hartman was against it and insistent on Danny ending up with SamManson) which resulted in two ending their partnership and friendship.
Frank Zappa and Captain Beefheart. These high school friends got along fine until the commercial failure of Beefheart's album Trout Mask Replica (1969), which was produced by Zappa. Beefheart blamed Zappa and for about six years they had a fall-out. After Beefheart's career financially faltered, Zappa took him on tour in 1975-1976 and recorded the album Bongo Fury with him, to help him out. Beefheart also performed mouth harmonica on Zappa's One Size Fits All and Zoot Allures on the pseudonym Bloodshot Rollin' Red. Unfortunately, they had another fall-out soon after because both were constantly trying to outdo each other in experimental weirdness. Only in the early 1990s, when Zappa was already ill with cancer, did the two friends finally make up.
Zappa also had a fall-out with Wild Man Fischer, a local nutcase whose debut album, An Evening With Wild Man Fischer (1969) was produced by Zappa. One time Fischer threw a bottle at Zappa's infant daughter. He missed, but Zappa was furious and threw him out immediately. Fischer made matters worse by openly blaming Zappa for the commercially low sales of An Evening With Wild Man Fischer. They never reconciled and Fischer died a poor man in 2011. An Evening With Wild Man Fischer was never reissued due to Zappa's widow Gail feeling that it didn't reflect well on her husband. It would be reissued in 2016, a year after Gail's death.
Paleontologists Edward Cope and Othniel Marsh were once friends, but their search for new dinosaur species became a bitter rivalry. It began when Marsh bribed workers to help him acquire bones from Cope's dig site and escalated over the next two decades into a vicious race to outdo each other. They hired spies to keep track of each other, hired away each other's employees, and even destroyed each others' dig sites and fossil discoveries. This rivalry cost them both professionally and financially, but it did have the benefit of leading to the discovery of thousands of fossils and over a hundred new dinosaur species.
The Cynical Brit (aka TotalBiscuit) and the Yogscast were once best friends in the Vitriolic Best Buds sense, with many collaborations and publicly defending one another when push came to shove. The relationship took a nasty turn in Summer 2014 when TB was forced to call them out on the failure of their Kickstarter project and their disclosing sponsored content (since not doing so would have meant turning a blind eye when his channel advocates disclosure and is pro-consumer) and Lewis Brindley accused him and Nerd³ (who is good friends with TB) of not disclosing sponsored content without any real evidence. Things were essentially left to be forgotten at that point on TB's end until March 2015, when Simon Lane called him a "crying pissbabby" (sic) over a comic book no less, causing TB to publicly declare that he was cutting ties with the group.
As time passed, TB relented somewhat on his stance. In a Q&A, a fan asked whether TB would consider working with them again, to which he replied "not the big three", referring to Lewis, Simon, and then-CEO Mark Turpin. He has, however, remained on very good terms with Strippin (then-still a member and one of his best friends), Sips (about whom TV would clarify he had nothing but good feelings), and B-Lister PyrionFlax, also playing games with Sjin, In The Little Wood, Kim Richards, and Duncan Jones, indicating that he was at least on good enough terms with Martyn, Kim, and Duncan to work professionally. Lewis, for his part, said that he would like to mend fences between both parties, but with the death of TB from cancer in 2018, that's never going to happen.
Creedence Clearwater Revival. Singer/guitarist/bandleader John Fogerty first became tight with bassist Stu Cook and drummer Doug Clifford in junior high and formed a band called The Blue Velvets in 1959. John's older brother Tom would soon join the band. This tight bond among school friends and one family member was permanently destroyed in the early 1970s, as the band, now known as Creedence Clearwater Revival and on top of the rock pantheon, began to feud; mainly, it was Doug, Stu, and Tom getting fed up with John's dictatorial reign over all band decisions. To this day, the bad blood remains between John and Doug/Stu, even as all three founding members have turned 70. John and Tom weren't able to patch up their differences before the latter's death.
Van Halen. Founding members Eddie and Alex Van Halen remained on bad terms with former members Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony. In fact, Eddie suggested in an interview that he wasn't friends with vocalist David Lee Roth, suggesting that some of the issues that originally forced Diamond Dave out of the band in the mid-'80s have yet to be resolved a good three decades later.
Sammy Hagar, however, patched things up with Eddie before he died.
Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage were once good friends in and out of the ring but had fallen out in real life sometime in the mid-late '90s. The reasons aren't exactly clear, and as recently as the 21st century, Savage was still openly disdainful towards Hulk, recording the Hogan diss song "Be a Man" in his ill-fated rap album. Hogan, however, made up with Savage shortly before his death in 2011 and posthumously inducted the Macho Man into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2015.
NBA superstars Earvin "Magic" Johnson and Isiah Thomas were good friends and rivals for most of their NBA career but became estranged for over two decades when the latter spread (false) rumors of Magic's homosexuality following his HIV diagnosis in 1991 and Johnson, in turn, did not lobby USA Basketball to add Thomas to the 1992 Dream Team. This rift lasted until 2013 when Johnson confirmed in a tweet that he had patched things up with Thomas.
Indycar's Will Power and Simon Pagenaud were the best of friends, to the point of even vacationing together, until Power (intentionally or accidentally depending on who you ask) knocked Pagenaud into the tires at the 2014 Grand Prix of Long Beach when Pagenaud was running in the top five, at which point their friendship ended. They patched things up in 2015 after Pagenaud joined Penske Racing, which happened to be the same team that Power raced in, and are now back to spending time together on tour and on off time.
François Truffaut and Jean-Luc Godard never spoke to each other again after Godard publicly slammed Day for Night and Truffaut responded with a lengthy letter criticizing Godard's flirtations with Maoism. Godard tried to reconcile in The '80s but Truffaut rebuffed him, and shortly after the latter died of brain tumor. Since Truffaut's death, Godard has written introductions and offered tributes to his former friend and has expressed regret at what happened.
Bill and Hillary Clinton used to be pretty chummy with Donald Trump. The Clintons were guests at Trump's wedding in 2005, and Bill was also a frequent golfing buddy. Trump, then a Democrat, made donations to Hillary's campaigns, hosted fundraisers for her, and generally gushed about her political prospects. Not the case in 2016 when Trump (now a Republican) ran against Hillary for president and ran what many pundits called the most vulgar campaign in memory, calling her "crooked", "the devil", and a "nasty woman", not to mention the time in which he hinted that she should be assassinated if she appointed pro-gun control judges. Trump didn't hold back from Bill either, and prior to the second presidential debate held a press conference with several women who had accused Bill of sexual harassment (despite Trump having dozens of rape allegations to his name, the Clintons did not return the favor). In the same debate, Trump went as far as to tell Hillary to her face that she would be in jail if he were president, although he never attempted to go through with it once he was.
Trump also used to be friendly with Rosie O'Donnell, enough so to invite her to his 1993 wedding to Marla Maples. In 2006, O'Donnell criticized Trump on The View, leading to a decades-long thermonuclear feud between the two. They could best be described as each other's Sitcom Arch-Nemesis.
Trump and pretty much the entire entertainment industry fit this trope. Since the 1980s Trump was a frequent guest on late night TV, often made cheeky cameos in movies and TV shows, rubbed elbows at award shows, and was the subject of generally doting media coverage. After Barack Obama became president, Trump made a hard turn to the right in The New '10s. It's been suggested that Trump's hard right turn began at the White House Correspondents' Dinner where Obama made a few jabs at Trump and he must have taken them very seriously. Trump started bandying disproven conspiracy theories about the president's birth and making various other incendiary comments, culminating in his own successful run for president, during which the entertainment industry turned on him. Trump became one of the few people to be banned for life from SAG and had his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame removed.
Trump and conservative author Ann Coulter. Coulter was one of his biggest supporters during his run in 2016, making campaign appearances for him and writing a book In Trump We Trust: E Pluribus Awesome! in support of him. Two years later she referred to him as "a shallow, lazy ignoramus", and he called her a "wacky nut job".
Trump was originally a supporter of Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential run, with Trump announcing his endorsement at a lavished Las Vegas press conference and Romney himself calling the endorsement a "great honor". After Romney's unsuccessful 2012 run and during Trump's successful 2016 presidential run, the two would trade insults with each other with Romney calling Trump unfit for the presidency because of his polemic rhetoric and Trump labelling Romney as a loser. As a senator, Romney became the only Republican to vote twice to convict Trump during his two impeachments.
Galileo Galilei and Pope Urban VIII. Galileo held scientific views that were in opposition to the church, but his good friend Pope Urban enjoyed a good debate and encouraged Galileo to publish his views. Unfortunately, Galileo wrote his arguments in the form of a dialogue, and the character representing the pope was named "Simplicio" ("The Simpleton") and spoke in a manner than suggested he was foolish and stubborn. Their friendship over, the pope demanded that Galileo be brought to trial for spreading heresy.
Danny Boyle and Ewan McGregor were good friends with the latter starring in the former's first three films before their friendship deteriorated when they had a feud after McGregor was not happy with the treatment that Boyle gave to him after being dropped out of The Beach. They would not be in speaking terms until 2013 when they patched things up after Boyle admitted to unfairly treating him and McGregor regretted the feud in a 2016 interview.
George Lucas and Gary Kurtz were good friends for their early works (American Graffiti, A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back) before parting ways after Empire. Kurtz would later claim that it stemmed out of his dislike for the direction of the franchise becoming Merchandise-Drivennote Pointing out Lucas trying to play up the merchandising angle of the movie with characters like the Ewoks (ironically, the toys for said creatures did rather poorly in merchandise sales), putting more emphasis on special effects than story and was in favour of the story getting Darker and Edgier. Lucas has generally kept quiet about his disagreements of Kurtz but reports at the time from Peter Biskind and Rinzler state that it had nothing to do with story and more about Lucas' disappointment with how Kurtz had, in his eyes, mishandled Empire's production which ultimately led Lucas to borrow $10 million in order for the film to be completed. Kurtz quit just a month before production for Empire (which was a Troubled Production) ended and was replaced by Howard Kazanjian. Lucas didn't start story discussions for Return of the Jedi (which were all tape-recorded) until after Kurtz left, where it was screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan pushing for a darker tone only for Lucas feeling that the story needed an optimistic finish out of fear of not being able to maintain his cast.
Phil Anselmo and Vinnie Paul Abbott from Pantera. Tensions between the two members of the Groove Metal band began in 1995 when Anselmo became addicted to heroin, which put a strain on their friendship, leading to The Great Southern Overkill to be recorded inseparate locations. Followed by Anselmo's near-death experience from a heroin overdose in 1996, this tension went ongoing for seven years until Vinnie and his brother Dimebag Darrell disbanded Pantera in 2003 after ultimately deciding that Anselmo would not return to the band. This gets much worse as a year later Anselmo said to Metal Hammer that "Dimebag deserves to be beaten severely", which angered Vinnie Paul and months after, Dimebag was killed by a deranged fan during a Damageplan performance. In the aftermath, Anselmo tried to contact Vinnie but Vinnie refused as he didn't want to speak to him and then Dimebag's girlfriend Rita Haney told him she would rather "blow Anselmo's head off" if he ever attended his funeral. Two years later, in an interview with Crave Online, Vinnie Paul said that he would never reconcile with Anselmo and true to his word, he passed away in 2018 without reconciling with Anselmo though Anselmo and Haney have since patched up their differences.
Vinnie also severed ties with fellow member Rex Brown. In fact, fans called him selfish for his actions towards Phil and Rex because apparently wanting your fallen brother to be paid tribute to and have the good times you and your band-mates/friends shared together held in remembrance is selfish.
Gary Barlow, Jason Orange and Robbie Williams were good friends by the time they were members in British Boy BandTake That but by 1994, Williams suffered a near-fatal heroin overdose the night before the MTV Europe Music Awards, which the band was going to perform. Then a year later, just months after Take That had their biggest hit at the time "Back for Good" (which remains their only American US Top 40 hit), Williams was photographed partying with Oasis at Glastonbury, which put a strain in him and the other two. Due to his party lifestyle and erratic behaviour, he was given the ultimatum: Follow the band's responsibilities and quit partying or quit, which he chose the latter. After Williams' departure, the band did an American tour and then decided to disband in mid-1996. A year after the disbandment, Williams became the Breakup Breakout of the band and becoming more successful than the band themselves. This got worse when in a 1999 interview, Williams openly criticised Barlow's solo work, which unfortunately resulted in Barlow taking a break from music until 2005, when the band decided to reform. Williams was invited to take part in the reunion but declined though he apologised to both Barlow and Orange, as they then patched up their differences, leading to him rejoining the band in 2010 though leaving for a second time in 2013 but this time on amicable terms as Williams decided to focus on his solo career and his family life and Barlow has said that Williams is welcome to rejoin.
Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez were already best friends, having starting their careers in Barney & Friends but their friendship almost ended with a falling out in 2009, though they later reconciled. In 2015, they fell out partly because Gomez had become good friends with Taylor Swift (to the point that Lovato wasn't favourable towards Swift's "Bad Blood" in early 2016). However, they patched up their differences in late 2016 as Demi supported Selena when the latter went to rehab in order to treat her lupus condition.
Lady Gaga and Madonna were good friends as the former was set to be the latter's Spiritual Successor until the latter criticised the former's "Born This Way" and calling it "reductive", feeling that it ripped off her song "Express Yourself". Gaga was not very happy at all, given that Madonna was a major influence in her career and said that the comparisons between the two songs were completely unintentional. Fortunately, both squashed the beef in 2019.
Katy Perry and Taylor Swift were friends, had a falling out, and Swift recorded "Bad Blood" which was apparently about Perry stealing Swift's backup dancers, though Swift hasn't confirmed if the song is about her. Shortly after "Bad Blood" became available online, Perry tweeted, "Watch out for the Regina George in sheep's clothing..." Thankfully, the beef was finally squashed in 2018.
Elizabeth Taylor and Debbie Reynolds were good friends during the breakthrough period of their careers, and after Taylor's husband Michael Todd died in a plane accident, Reynolds and her husband Eddie Fisher comforted her until Fisher began having an affair with Taylor, which devastated Reynolds and led their friendship to become estranged, and the day after Reynolds' divorce was finalized, Fisher married Taylor, which lasted for five years. Two years after divorcing Fisher, Taylor apologised to Reynolds and Reynolds forgave her, resulting in the two reconciling and resuming their friendship, although it could be light-heartedly prickly at times. They remained good friends until Taylor's death in 2011.
Talaat Pasha and Krikor Zohrab, an Armenian Member of the Ottoman Chamber of Deputies were friends before the Armenian Genocide. Once the genocide started, they played a card game as they usually did, and discussed the deportations and massacres. Krikor Zohrab tried to convince Talaat to put an end to the atrocities. When the game ended, Talaat kissed Krikor Zohrab on the cheeks and bade him goodbye. That was the last time they ever saw each other, as Talaat had Zohrab arrested, and then executed.
Gwyneth Paltrow and Winona Ryder were inseparable best friends in the 1990s, then were no longer on speaking terms for reasons unknown. A popular rumor is that Paltrow stole her Oscar-winning role in Shakespeare in Love from Ryder, though Paltrow vehemently denies this. Paltrow hasn't spoken about the friendship but did give an interview vaguely referring to "a 'frenemy' who, as it turned out, was pretty hellbent on taking me down".
It didn't help that there were rumors of Miramax (and Harvey Weinstein) launching an aggressive and vicious promotional campaign for Shakespeare in Love, resulting in a belief that Paltrow's Oscar win was less than earned.
Kenan Thompson and Kel Mitchell were a ubiquitous duo in the 1990s, starring together in All That, Kenan & Kel and Good Burger, but by the 2010s Kel claimed that Kenan, trying to establish himself as a solo comedian, was actively avoiding him. In 2015 Jimmy Fallon took it upon himself to reunite them and the two have begun working together again, including serving as producers on the reboot of All That.
Jay-Z and Kanye West were good friends since the late Nineties, especially the latter making his big break on the former's The Blueprint. The duo would record the album Watch the Throne in 2011 but their friendship began to burst in 2016 when West dissed his friend for not visiting him after his wife Kim Kardashian had her jewelry stolen in Paris and a year later, Jay-Z dissed West on his album 4:44, which led to West severing ties with Tidal as co-owner and shareholder of the streaming service. The two eventually reconciled in 2019 as they attended their fellow friend Puff Daddy's 50th birthday.
Bill Hicks and Denis Leary were friends until Hicks heard Leary's album No Cure for Cancer and felt that it plagiarised his own routine. Their friendship abruptly ended as a result.
This is the case with Michael Keene and most of the former personnel, but especially with Justin McKinney and Ken Sorceron. Both were good friends of his before joining, and Ken in particular was one of his oldest industry friends and main defenders. Several years of being in a band with Keene destroyed every last ounce of their good will towards him, as his drug issues, unpleasant personality, and total refusal to take responsibility for his actions or even attempt to adequately address his drug problems cost them an incredible amount of money and career opportunities, and after Keene rewarded them for their efforts by badmouthing them to others and telling them that they were "the weakest lineup" and that he didn't even need them to their faces after a nightmare of a European tour, they decided that they had simply had enough.
Judging by comments that Austin Archey made on Twitter after Tom Barber joined Chelsea Grin, Lorna Shore is furious with Tom for using a band that he helped build up with the rest of them to the point where it was finally going somewhere as a vehicle for personal gain and little else, and judging by Archey's post, Tom had been acting like he was the star of the show for some time before that. The two eventually buried the hatchet and became friends again, making this a subversion. Also subverted with his replacement CJ McCreery, as they quickly grew to regret hiring him and grew very tired of his selfish and egotistical behavior and his embarrassing conduct while on tour, and by the time he was accused of numerous abusive and sexually predatory acts towards his former partners and other assorted women around the end of 2019, he had not been anything resembling a friend for a long time, if he ever was.
After being discontented with his successor's passive administration and dismal performance in the 12th Malaysian General Election, Dr. Mahathir began efforts to pressure Abdullah Ahmad Badawi to step down. Mahathir's then-protege, Najib Razak was mooted to take Badawi's place; which he did in 2009. Mahathir was a close ally of Najib's father and was thus, close to the new premier. However, their relationship started to sour as Najib became increasingly embroiled in financial and corruption scandals, to the point Mahathir eventually denounced Najib and left the ruling party to join the Opposition. Any chances of reconciliation have since been killed off by Najib's unexpected loss to Mahathir in the 14th General Elections.
Ex-Disney CEO Michael Eisner, Senior Executive of the company and nephew of Walt Disney himself, Roy Disney and Ex-Chairman of the Disney studio, Jeffrey Katzenberg. During the '80s, Disney was on the verge of bankruptcy, mainly because of the waning film and animation studios. Roy campaigned to remove Ron Miller (who was also his cousin) as CEO, and replace him with then-President of Paramount Michael Eisner. Michael brought along his friend from Paramount, Jeffrey Katzenberg, and their efforts helped bring the company around, which eventually led to the Disney Renaissance. However, over time, the three of them would increasingly grow animosity towards each other, usually over creative differences and different methods to handle productions. Despite this, they still maintained a professional relationship mainly because of their mediator, Frank Wells, President of the company who they all admired. However, Frank tragically died in a Helicopter accident in 1994. Jeffrey, who at the time was feeling underappreciated, saw the opportunity to take Frank's place as President of the company. However, Michael didn't give it to him, feeling disgusted that Jeffrey wanted to use Frank's death as a springboard for a higher position. Because of this, Jeffrey left Disney and helped form Dreamworks, which became one of Disney's biggest rivals, and notoriously either ripped them off in many of their films or had numerous take thats directed towards them, most notably in Shrek. The story doesn't end there, as Roy and Michael's hatred towards each other only grew after Jeffrey's departure. Roy grew incredibly annoyed at Michael's increasingly overbearing and poor decisions in both the theme parks (Disneyland Paris) and the films (most notably how he was screwing over their deal with Pixar), so much so that he repeated history by starting yet another campaign to remove him as CEO, and ended with Michael stepping down in 2006, and being replaced by Bob Iger.
Alan Moore and Frank Miller used to be good friends when writing comics in the '80s. When Moore was a critic, he praised Miller's work in Daredevilnote For the confusingly titled Magazine The Daredevils published in Marvel UK which was a magazine that Moore used to write comics criticism and described Miller as a nice and supportive man when he conducted an interview with him for the work. Although both have different approaches, they were both praised for deconstructing the superhero genre with their seminal works Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns, with Moore even penning an enthusiastic introduction to the collector's edition of Miller's The Dark Knight Returns, and both of them were united in the creator's rights movements which centered around Jack Kirby (a hero for both of them) getting the recognition he deserved. Their friendship and association ended when Moore moved to England at the end of The '80snote In that decade, Moore would fly between England and America but they were still cordial until the mid-90s when Moore criticized 300 for its historical inaccuracy and alleged homophobia, and it was pretty much over in 2011 when Miller verbally attacked the Occupy Movement, which Moore supported, as run by entitled thieves and rapists. In a darkly ironic sense, their works feature heroes turning on each other and becoming enemies as they grow older.
The biggest example of course in comics lore is the breaking up of the Dream Team of Marvel Comics: Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko. How friendly the three were at one time is debated but Kirby at least admitted that he and Lee did have some bond.
Of the three Lee was the most famous and most publicity conscious, claiming that Marvel made its comics in the Marvel Method where he claimed writing credit (for writing the dialogues and caption entries, and even then he followed the directions and suggestions Ditko and Kirby gave him) when in fact the plot, character beats, action, denouement, and twists were all done by the artists (who never got outright credit for writing or pay commensurate to their contributionsnote For instance if Lee wanted artists to redraw some scenes, they would not be paid for their extra labor). Ditko was so offended by this that he and Lee stopped speaking to each other for the final 10 issues of his run on Spider-Man, and even if he got credit for "plotting" he still saw that as a sop to prevent him from being recognized as essentially Spider-Man's most important creator (since he was doing the majority of the work). Eventually, he abruptly quit Marvel and became a Reclusive Artist and refused for the rest of his life (he died in June 2018) to ever speak of his time in Marvel and Lee in detail, except in some instances to snipe and debunk at some rumors spread by Lee and his successorsnote Most notably the idea that Ditko was in any way opposed to Osborn being the Goblin which led him to scornfully Lampshade the Foreshadowing that he himself put in the pages for the whole thing, as the guy who plotted the comics insisting that yes, he always intended Norman to be the Goblin. Lee for his part for the rest of his life praised Ditko's contributions and after his passing (shortly before his own) he paid tribute to him, noting that he hoped people would discover and learn more about him and his work on Spider-Man. Lee also insisted that the credits for Spider-Man have Ditko's name next to his when originally it was going to be just Stan Lee (compare that to the fact that Bob Kane refused to credit Bill Finger on any of the Batman films that came out in the final decade of his life).
Jack Kirby and Lee is a complex example. Kirby for instance was just as peeved as Ditko at Lee hogging the limelight but given he had a family to support, he was willing to suck it up and come to some arrangement and negotiate gradually. This ended however when a newspaper profile of Lee glorified the former as a genius while insulting Kirby for being a working-class stiff and bore who just followed Lee's directives. Kirby was professionally embarrassed by that hatchet job and was also emotionally hurt by it, and even though Lee had no say in that article, he never spoke out or did the requisite damage control though years later he admitted it was a mistake. Kirby plotted moving to DC immediately and did so in The '70s. During the Creator's Rights movements, Kirby made many damning interviews that insulted Lee which even some of Kirby's supporters found a little harsh. Incidentally, despite that, Kirby and Lee's paths did cross during that time, and publicly they were friendly, would smile for photographs and be polite in radio interviews but Kirby insisted that there was no resolution, and poignantly admitted that their relationship would never heal. When Kirby died, Lee considered attending his funeral, and Jack's widow Roz on hearing it was quite welcoming and insistent that he attend, but Lee demurred.
Jack Kirby: "If Stan would only come out of his hiding place and tell the world everything would go great. It isnt obscure. He knows it, and I know it. There wont be a resolution. People dont change. They cant change. Sometimes its too late. You just go on being what you are. Human beings go on being human beings. I can predict everything that Stan will do. I know I cant change Stan. He says his piece, and I say mine. I could shake hands with Stan till doomsday and it would resolve nothing, the dance goes on."
An e-sports example from Dota 2 has to be between Johan "N0tail" Sundstein and Tal "Fly" Aizik. For 10 years, they used to be best friends playing Heroes of Newerth together before they entered the Dota 2 pro scene and are often under the same team as each other but particularly under the team OG where they regularly compete in tournaments, even winning a couple of them under their belt. But that all changed when a few hours before the Supermajor tournament, both Fly along with Gustav "S4" Maguson voiced their declaration to leave the team a few hours before their flight there without telling them beforehand leaving N0tail betrayed. While the full details of this are not known, it is heavily implied that they left on really bad terms particularly as the sudden departure ended up forcing the team to withdraw from the tournament, costing them what could be a great opportunity for practice. A comparison between these two images◊ and you could tell just how much Fly hurt his former friend at such departure and given that N0tail is usually a rather optimistic guy, it's a lot.
Wilco and Son Volt frontmen Jeff Tweedy and Jay Farrar, respectively, became friends in high school before they became part of alternative country pioneers Uncle Tupelo. Tweedy stated that Farrar, who had done the lion's share of songwriting on the first two albums, fought with Tweedy after he began taking more control of songwriting duties and pursuing an active role in the band (such as speaking into the microphone during concerts); he also acknowledged that a communication gap would be opened after he would continue drinking late at night long after the other two members stopped. Farrar claimed that, while Tweedy's account was not technically wrong, he also saw Tweedy stroke the hair of his girlfriend while she was asleep and found out later that Tweedy told her that he loved her. The feud would reach its head in January 1994, with Farrar quitting the band after releasing their first major label album. Farrar would agree to one last two-week tour as a favor to manager Tony Margherita (who had sunk a lot of money in the band); subsequently, he would leave for good and form Son Volt, while Tweedy and the rest of the band continued as Wilco. The duo would only unite in any capacity in 2002, when they both sued their former label Rockville Records for unpaid royalties, winning the joint rights to their first three albums. Since then, Tweedy and Farrar have made contact on a handful of occasions since (mostly for business-related affairs), and all three original members of the group have stated that the band will never reunite.
Cao Cao and Yuan Shao were childhood friends and once they had grown up to be military men, were allied to each other and joined the coalition against Dong Zhuo. However, Yuan Shao's failure to help Cao Cao at Xingyang and their growing conflict of interests eventually escalated into full-blown war. Yuan Shao was eventually defeated and ultimately, the Yuan name descended into obscurity rapidly after Cao Cao seized control of their former holdings.
#ChangeTheChannel resulted in a lot of this with the former members of Channel Awesome:
Allison Pregler and Brad Jones continued to be friends even after the former was canned from Channel Awesome—and then the movement and subsequent mass exodus happened. A few supporters of the movement proceeded to allegedly hound Jones over his decision to stay. Jones publicly accused Pregler of being behind the whole thing, which she denied. She was particularly upset when he gave an interview to Double Toasted where he was pretty dismissive of the whole #ChangeTheChannel movement and ultimately said she wanted nothing to do with Jones. She even went so far as to try to slander him on Twitter by accusing him of paedophilia.
After Jones accused Pregler, Kaylyn Saucedo and Matthew Buck of being in on an alleged swatting attempt (which Pregler doubted ever happening) and laughing about it (which he later recanted), Saucedo and Buck also took this attitude to Jones, too; with Buck stating that he would never forgive Jones for this. Former Team Snob member Brian Lewis also took their side, after previously being fairly quiet about leaving the crew during Change the Channel. Many others would join them in disowning Jones as well.
Related to Brad, but not the movement itself, Brad was once close friends with Jake Norvell, who appeared in many of his series, most notably Midnight Screenings. That all went out the window when he found out that Jake was dating a girl Brad was also interested in.note Brad claimed in a forum post once that he was dating the girl first, but both her and Jake claim that Brad's interest in her was not returned. His response was to sever ties with both of them. This even extends to the rest of Brad's circle of friends, who stated that they want nothing more to do with him.
Noah Antwiler was once thick as thieves with Jason "Lord Kat" Pullara until Noah invaded one of Jason's streams and insulted him and his friends. Jason later claimed that he got several interview offers rescinded by association with Channel Awesome, and zeroed in on Spoony screaming "Betrayal!" on a convention floor. This culminated in a lengthy rant where he urged Noah to kill himself with his brother's gun. While he later apologised for this, citing depression at the time, he has made it clear that he has no desire to associate with him ever again.
While Lewis Lovhaug was once good friends with Doug and Rob Walker and didn't nearly have as bad of an experience with Channel Awesome as much as other former producers, he too would leave after #ChangeTheChannel and hasn't spoken to the Walkers since (claiming that he had even left a heartfelt message to Doug about his leaving that he never replied back to) as well as becoming more open about criticizing them and the site than in the past. Lovhaug also joined others in denouncing Jones, in particular opening Atop the Fourth Wall's 600th episode with Linkara about to review a Caligula comic (a minor Running Gag in the show as a Shout-Out to Jones' favorite film Caligula) but being interrupted by a phone call telling him of Jones' recent behavior and Linkara saying "Screw him" in response.
Lovhaug and Iron Liz were Amicable Exes until they parted ways over her support of Donald Trump (ignoring the fact that his mother is a Trump supporter) and her reportedly bad-mouthing his current wife Viga and associated with people he doesn't like. He even went so far as to call her a piece of shit on Twitter. For her part, Liz has remained civil when discussing him and urging others to leave him alone.
Combining the aforementioned two, though unrelated to the movement, Lovhaug stated during a playthrough of DOOM (2016) that he and Antwiler no longer talk. While he didn't go into details why, it's generally believed to be the result of Antwiler's issues.
Kyle Kallgren was friends and frequent collaborators with Ellis and Todd in the Shadows. Kallgren cryptically revealed on Twitter that Ellis had cut ties with him. Todd posted a lengthy statement about how he also cut ties with him.
Association Football managers José Mourinho and Pep Guardiola were good friends, having both started their careers at Barcelona with Mourinho being team manager Bobby Robson's translator during Robson's time at the La Liga side before becoming assistant manager after a lackluster career as a footballer in his native Portugal and Guardiola being a player in the team but their friendship disintegrated when Guardiola became Barcelona manager in 2008, much to Mourinho's dismay as he was interested in taking the position after leaving Chelsea a year ago, though he ultimately managed Serie A side Inter Milan and both would develop a rivalry when Mourinho became manager of Barcelona's rival Real Madrid in 2010, which would continue when both became managers of English Premier League teams Manchester United and Manchester City, respectively in which Guardiola won the league title under City, while Mourinho didn't win any trophies under United and was dismissed, following poor results from the first half of the 2018-19 season.
Turkish football clubs Galatasaray and Fenerbahce may share one of the most ferocious rivalries in the sport nowadays, but back at the start of the 20th century, the two clubs enjoyed friendly ties - to the point that they were even willing to merge and become a single club representing the Turkish population to combat the non-Turkish teams in the football league. However, an extremely heated friendly in 1934 that culminated with a fight between the players caused the end of friendly relations between the two sides and thus, the Intercontinental Derby was born.
Jonathan Davis and Brian "Head" Welch's friendship disintegrated after Welch decided to leave in 2004 due to his disillusionment with the band and ultimately converted to Christianity as he then denounced his time in the band before ultimately making amends with Davis in 2011, resulting in his return to the band in 2013.
David Silveria and the rest of the band, whose friendship ended in 2006 as Silveria left in anger following disagreements with his bandmates and since then, has made some critical comments towards his former bandmates except for James Shaffer, as he has said that he has no hard feelings for him.
Make that three, as Shaffer has now stated in a radio interview in September 2020, "That bastard either has to be a friend to all of us, or none of us". Silveria, so far, has not responded to this, although friends state that he is royally pissed at Shaffer.
The Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan and guitarist James Iha were not on good terms after the band originally split in 2000 with Corgan blaming Iha for the split, which resulted in Iha declining the offer to take part in the band's 2007 reunion. Fortunately, they squashed the beef in 2015, resulting in Iha's return to the band in 2018.
Guns N' Roses: Axl Rose and Slash, big time. However, the animosity is pretty much one-sided. While Axl's dislike for Slash is well noted on this page, Slash says that he pretty much just ignores his bullcrap, stating that dwelling on it would drive him insane, and is very complimentary of Axl's singing and songwriting talent in his autobiography.
These days Axl is on good terms with Izzy Stradlin and Duff McKagan (also helping is the former being a childhood friend).
As for Steven Adler, he stated during an interview with Eddie Trunk that he and Axl reconciled and talked for a while after a Guns show that he attended back in 2006, although they haven't spoken since.
After his stint with the Not In This Lifetime Tour ended in February 2017 (and his Non-Disclosure Agreement expired), he stated in an interview with Eddie Trunk that he didn't get much of a chance to chat with Axl on the tour, but what he did manage was perfectly enough for him.
As of August 2015, Slash and Axl have seemed to bury the hatchet, with Slash saying that "It was probably way overdue." Needless to say, rumors of an original lineup reunion have been running full force ever since, as the relationship between those two was the only thing keeping a reunion from conceivably happening (as everyone was cool with everyone else). Steven commented on Eddie Trunk's September 28th, 2015 radio show that no one had said anything to him yet about a reunion, but was confident that if there was one they wouldn't dump him for Matt Sorum (he stated that he and Matt had actually discussed this. Not only would Matt not play if Steven was left out, but Steven would be fine with Matt taking part so long as they both played only the material they recorded). Eventually only Slash and Duff came back, as this drummer conundrum plus Izzy's disappearance made a full-fledged reunion hard to achieve.
As it currently stands, Matt has no involvement with the Not In This Lifetime tour, and Steven has been making guest appearances (he was unable to be signed on for something more substantial due to coming off of back surgery during the tour's planning stages).
Ironically enough, this trope now seems to be somewhat in effect with Izzy (the first original member to play with Axl after the band's new millennium relaunch), who claimed on his Twitter profile that he's not involved with the current tour due to being offered a poor contract.
There was talk that Izzy was set to join the band onstage for a guest appearance for one of their performances in the midwest (most likely Indiana). Except that Izzy apparently stormed out during the soundcheck.
Turkish President (then Prime Minister), Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and Syrian President, Bashar al-Assad, were not just fellow heads of state but close enough friends to vacation together. Among their supporters, the mild bromance between the two men even inspired affectionate memes. Then The Arab Spring happened. Erdogan threw his support behind the Syrian Opposition and things went downhill from there. The fact that Erdogan is the only foreign supporter of the rebels that Assad refers to with personal insults (such as "maniac" and "psychopath") should highlight the level of bitterness.
Erdogan gets this a lot. Many of his staunchest opponents, such as Ahmet Davutoglu and Abdullah Gul, were once his closest supporters and instrumental in establishing and empowering the ruling Justice and Development Party. The Islamist opposition Felicity Party grew from the same movement that Erdogan was part of. And although these days, Erdogan is known for his persecution of the Kurdish population of Turkey, back in the 2000s he was deeply popular among the Kurds due to his opposition to the secular nationalist parties who had also persecuted the Kurdish population.
Opie & Anthony had been a shock jock duo on various stations for almost twenty years but had a falling out after Anthony got fired from Sirius XM for racially charged tweets. Aside from one conversation two years after the firing, they never spoke to each other again and openly attack each other in media. Opie later had another falling out with Anthony's replacement cohost Jim Norton, resulting in them splitting off into different shows.
Josh Hadley and Scott Murray co-hosted the podcast Lost in the Static and had a Vitriolic Best Buds vibe, frequently arguing with each other. That all came to an end in 2016, when Scott was arrested for possession of child pornography, prompting Josh to sever all ties with him and render him to Un-person status.
Speaking of Josh Hadley, he was a regular contributor to Geek Juice Media, until he parted ways with them. Alex Jowski revealed in a forum that Josh was regarded as The Friend Nobody Likes due to his volatile, aggressive personality and that nobody on the site has any desire to work with him again. Mister X, another contributer to the site, revealed on his Twitch streams that he invited Josh to appear on a charity livestream as an olive branch, but was rebuffed. Feeling that he put his ego above all else, X also decided that he was a lost cause. X also cited an occasion where during a riff, Josh kept making gay jokes, prompting the bisexual Alex to pause the riff claiming technical difficulties and berate him for doing so.
Rose McGowan had a falling out with her Charmed co-star Alyssa Milano in late 2017 when McGowan (who had become an outspoken activist for sexual harrassment, misconduct, assault, abuse and rape victims, being among those who accused Harvey Weinstein of sexual misconduct, thus starting the Weinstein effect) accused Milano over co-opting Tarana Burke's "Me Too" movement that also led to the Time's Up movement when the allegations against Harvey Weinstein started to come out, calling her "a lie" in an interview with Nightline and was disgusted at her former co-star's defence of Weinstein's estranged (now ex) wife Georgina Chapman, accusing her of being a hypocrite by pointing out that her husband is an agent with Hollywood's powerful Creative Artists Agency (CAA) firm (the same firm in which Courtney Love accused of blacklisting her for publicly speaking out against Weinstein long before the scandal), while Milano showed nothing but support for her. This would become increasingly sour in August 2020, when McGowan (who had become disillusioned with the Democratic Party) accused the party for having achieved nothing on Twitter, while Milano (who remains a Democrat) called her out by responding with a long list that the party has achieved, only to result in a nasty spat between the two going back and forth with McGowan bringing up her aforementioned stuff and revealing that she actually had a falling out with her (who was no stranger of being The Prima Donna on set as her feud with the equally-combative Shannen Doherty resulted in the latter to be let go after season three with her character Prue being killed off and replaced by McGowan's character Paige) back when they were on set doing Charmed, accusing her of being toxic and said that she cried every time the show got renewed, while Milano said she was hurt by this.
McGowan's friendship with fellow Weinstein accuser Asia Argento collapsed in late 2019 after actor Jimmy Bennett accused Argento of sexually assaulting him in 2013 when he was 17.
Max Cavalera's friendship with fellow Sepultura members Paulo Jr. and Andreas Kisser ended in late 1996, when the two along with Max's brother Igor told him that they were firing their manager, who is also Max's wife, which betrayed him due to the fact he was coming to the loss of his stepson from a car accident and because of this, opted to quit the band, thus forming his own band, leaving the band to replace him with Derrick Green, along with that he and his brother wouldn't be on speaking terms for a decade until they reconciled in 2006 after he left the band. Cavalera has said that he should've dismissed Paulo and Kisser from the band in hindsight.
Joe Biden and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) were once friends despite their ideological differences, and both even shared their mutual disdain for Donald Trump's candidacy for president in 2016. Graham even looked all choked up when asked about Biden's deceased son Beau in this interview in 2015. That friendship went south when Graham cozied up to Trump, publicly insulted Joe's son Hunter, and became a key defender of Trump during his Ukraine scandal and impeachment. By the time Joe was elected president in 2020, his wife Jill stated that he and Graham are no longer friends. Graham also called Biden shortly after the election to patch up, stating that he only attacked Hunter to satisfy Trump, but Biden told him off. A few days after the phone call, Biden remarked to Stephen Colbert that Graham was "a personal disappointment because I was a personal friend of his."
Likewise, deceased Sen. John McCain's daughter Meghan affirmed that her family and Lindsey Graham are no longer close with each other after Graham began gravitating towards Trump, and more specifically, when Trump's daughter Ivanka and her husband Jared showed up at the funeral at Graham's urging despite being told not to show up due to their longstanding feud, which is still going on even after McCain's death. Reportedly, Graham's steadfast support for Trump in the Ukraine scandal also played a major role as well.
Nelson Mandela and Robert Mugabe were close allies who campaigned against white minority rule and later became leaders of the respective African countries of South Africa and Zimbabwe. However, whereas Mandela ruled in a democratic and reconciliatory manner, Mugabe took a more authoritarian approach that antagonized white Zimbabweans and political dissidents. Towards the end of their lives, the two would publicly criticize each other with Mandela calling out Mugabe's corruption and Mugabe hurling petty insults at Mandela and Desmond Tutu.
Cheap Trick drummer Bun E. Carlos and singer/guitarist Robin Zander had a falling out in 2010. Three years later, Carlos sued the band for nonpayment of income. The case was settled, but Carlos admitted, "The friendship sort of frittered away there." Nonetheless, he rejoined them for a one-off performance in 2016 when Cheap Trick were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Formula One drivers Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton knew each other since they were children. They've competed together in several categories and forged a Friendly Rivalry, which was still clearly apparent when they both got into Formula One, such as when Hamilton went on to congratulate Rosberg on his first podium. Then, they ended up being teammates in Mercedes in 2013, where things seemed to still be nice... until the next season, where Mercedes became an extremely dominating team, and the fight for the World Championship was quickly reduced to a "Rosberg vs. Hamilton" battle. Between 2014 and 2016, their relationship had been severely strained, and kept having incidents both in races and outside of them; a sad reminder on how a rivalry can turn friends into enemies.
Johnny Carson and Fred de Cordova, the longtime producer of The Tonight Show. Much of the credit for Carson's rise to icon status goes to de Cordova, who had been a film director at one point (including the infamous Ronald Reagan vehicle Bedtime for Bonzo) and turned the show into a smoothly polished spectacle. The sociable Red Oni to Carson's shy Blue Oni, de Cordova used his connections in Hollywood circles to make the show a desirable destination for A-listers. But in 1991, Carson's son Richard, who was an accomplished nature photographer, died in an accident, which devastated Carson. On his first show back after the incident, Carson ended with a tribute to his son, including a display of his photos. In the middle of the emotional moment, Carson saw de Cordova give him a signal to wrap up, which infuriated him. Afterwards, Carson banned de Cordova from the studio during show tapings (even though he still kept the producer job), and the two never spoke to each other again after Carson's 1992 retirement (de Cordova died in 2001, Carson in 2005).
A bizarre Collegiate American Football example. After the 1992 season, Nevada Wolf Pack coach Chris Ault, who'd been in the job since 1976, stepped down from his football position to focus on being the school's athletic director. His assistant coach Jeff Horton was considered the heir apparent and was in fact picked by Ault to be his successor. After coaching at Nevada in 1993, Horton suddenly turned around and accepted the head coaching job for the UNLV (Nevada-Las Vegas) Rebels, Nevada's instate Arch-Enemy. Wolf Pack fans and Ault himself loudly dubbed Horton a traitor for taking the job (the incident is still called "the Red Defection" by Nevada fans, in reference to UNLV's school colors). However, it was an open secret that Ault himself had been in talks with UNLV for the position, and Horton only jumped at the chance to take the job after Ault finally said no. Ault decided to return to the Nevada head coaching slot, and the bad blood between him and Horton led to several heated games between the two schools until Ault stepped away from the coaching job and went back to being an AD in 1995. Horton was fired by UNLV in 1998, and has gone on to assistant jobs in the NFL and at other colleges. Ault would eventually have a third stint as Nevada's head coach from 2004-2012).
Trent Reznor and Marilyn Manson became friends after Reznor signed Manson and his eponymous band to his record label Nothing in the early Nineties as well co-producing Manson's first two albums Portrait of an American Family and Antichrist Superstar before falling out after the latter's release, which resulted in Reznor making a diss towards him in "Starfuckers, Inc." from his 1999 album The Fragile (1999), though they would reconcile in 2000, when Manson co-directed the music video for the song and would later perform the song with him and his band Nine Inch Nails. However, the two fell out again in 2009, when Reznor made a very scathing remark towards him in an interview with Mojo though reconciling again in 2017 before their friendship collapsed in a big way in 2021 when Manson was accused of multiple counts of abuse by his ex-fiancée Evan Rachel Wood as well as an excerpt from his 1998 autobiography The Long Hard Road Out of Hell resurfacing online in which Manson talked about how he and Reznor had allegedly physically and sexually assaulted an inebriated woman, resulting in an angry Reznor to call out his former friend, accusing him of fabricating said account and revealing that he never fully reconciled with him as he actually cut ties with the shock rocker after the release of Superstar on acrimonious terms.
Here's a weird one: Bobby Allison and Richard Petty were fierce rivals on the track, but their spouses and kids were friendly with each other. But Allison suffered two tragedies in the early 90s, as he lost his son Clifford to a racing accident in 1992, and then lost Davey to a helicopter accident in 1993. The resulting deaths caused Bobby's wife, Judy, to divorce him in 1996. Fast forward to 2000, Richard Petty loses his grandson Adam in a racing accident. Bobby Allison and Richard Petty reconcile and Bobby reconciles with Judy on the way to visit the Pettys and they eventually remarry, staying that way until her death in 2015.
Tony Blair and Gordon Brown used to be good friends, both entering Parliament in 1983 and working in the same Office. When John Smith became Labour Leader in 1992 they were both promoted highly, Blair as Shadow Home Secretary and Brown as Shadow Chancellor, both working hard to try and return Labour to power after their loss in 1979. However after John Smith died suddenly in 1994 they apparently agreed that Brown wouldn't stand to be Leader to help Blair and if they won the next election he would become Chancellor and Blair would later stand down so he could become PM, after which Blair become Leader. Labour indeed won in 1997 making Blair PM and Brown became Chancellor, however during his second term in Office he and Brown's relationship soured. Brown presumed Blair would stand down during his second term but Blair wanted to try a third term. By the time Blair finally stood down in 2007 the two former friends were on very bad terms, even though Brown followed Blair as PM.
Latin dub actors Humberto Vélez and Marina Huerta. Both actors got their big break in 1990 after being selected to voice Homer and Bart Simpson, respectively, for the Latin Spanish dub of The Simpsons, and swiftly became good friends. In 1998, Huerta left the cast due to a salary dispute and was replaced by Claudia Motta, however, Huerta and Vélez remained friends. This changed when, in 2005, a strike caused Vélez, Motta and many other cast members to lose their characters and in some cases be barred from participating in any Fox projects. Huerta took advantage of the strike to hold backdoor negotiations with Fox to recover her role of Bart and hold a recast of most Simpsons characters, in which she was also assigned the role of Marge and appointed as dub director. In 2007, prior to the release of The Simpsons Movie and when the original dub cast was promoting a boycott of the film if they weren't called to reprise their roles, Huerta published a Strongly Worded Letter basically victim-blaming the cast for going on strike and personally insulting Motta and Mr. Burns's original dub VA Gabriel Chávez, which led most of the original cast as well as some uninvolved dub actors like Alfonso Obregón to publicly disown Huerta. It is clear that Vélez never forgave Huerta for this, and when an intervention by the series' showrunner Al Jean along with Disney's purchase of Fox and the series in 2021 led Vélez, Chávez, and many other actors to recover the roles they had lost 16 years earlier, it was telling that Huerta was not asked to continue and her role of Bart was given back to Claudia Motta, who to top it all was also given the role of Marge since the original VA, Nancy Mackenzie, did not return due to her advanced age.
Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro and Sao Paulo governor João Doria used to be close compatriots who shared similar right-wing views and opposition to the leftist PT party. In fact, during Bolsonaro's presidential campaign, the two would be seen performing push-ups in the streets as public displays of strength. However, the two would have a falling out during the COVID-19 Pandemic when Bolsonaro not only downplayed the pandemic but also overruled Doria's attempt to institute lockdowns and buy COVID vaccines. Bolsonaro accused Doria of undermining his presidency while Doria would call Boslonaro a "psychopath leader", blaming the president for the over 500,000 Brazilian deaths and crippled economy.
Chris Jericho fell out with two longtime friends, one from the wrestling industry and the other from the music scene.
In 2020, Jim Cornette became highly critical of Jericho for his decision to play at the Sturgis bike fest in front of thousands of maskless bikers while an extraordinary pandemic was affecting the entire globe — he would later refer to Jericho as the "COVID God" (a reference to one of his AEW monikers, the "Demo God"), among other insults. Cornette was even more upset over Jericho's apparent support for Donald Trump and his family — a big no-no for a hardcore liberal like him. In early 2021, Cornette confirmed on his podcast that after more than 25 years, he and Jericho are no longer friends, mostly on account of Jericho's financial donations to the Trump campaign.
Similarly, Jericho had a long-running friendship with former Skid Row frontman Sebastian Bach, which he frequently referred to in the pages of his autobiographies. However, in 2020, Bach started an online feud with Jericho, claiming that the latter lip-syncs to his songs. After several back-and-forth tweets, Jericho disavowed his friendship with Bach and challenged him to a sing-off, claiming he's a better singer; later on, Jericho's Fozzy bandmate Rich Ward stepped up to his defense and suggested that Bach is "universally disliked" — a fair point as Bach has a history of being difficult, especially during his time with Skid Row. While this feud eventually died down, Bach threw more potshots at Jericho in the aftermath of the Capitol Hill riots in January 2021, suggesting that pro-Trump wrestlers such as him are among those indirectly responsible for the siege of the Capitol. Jericho didn't comment on that tweet, but it's safe to say Bach won't be opening for Fozzy anytime in the near future, pandemic or no pandemic.
The members of Lostprophets' relationship with singer Ian Watkins was severely tested by his drug abuse, which made him unreliable to the point where the band almost broke up (bassist Stuart Richardson revealed that he once beat Ian up on a tour bus for missing a show). Ian grew distant from his fellow bandmates, staying in Wales while they were in America, so they barely saw him. Following Ian's conviction of appalling sex crimes, the other bandmembers completely washed their hands of him and started a new band, No Devotion. Guitarist Lee Gaze even said that because Ian tarnished the band so badly, he can't even be proud of his past accomplishments, never mind listen to their music. They said that had they known about Ian's crimes, they would have killed him on the spot.
From the Yogscast itself, not counting Total Biscuit:
After his expulsion from the network and being accused of grooming, Hannah Rutherford was quick to disavow one-time friend and frequent collaborator Matthew "CaffCast" Meredith.
Sjin was previously quite popular with the network until his expulsion from the network shortly after Meredith. Following that, Hat Films and Sips, among others, were quick to cut him out their private lives, while fellow Chilluminati members Harry and Tom only stayed in contact to make sure he wouldn't hurt himself, and to try and convince him what he'd done was wrong; they would cut ties later after he showed no remorse. Following a leaked Snapchat post of a former mutual friend inviting Sjin and other Yogscast members to an online pub quiz, Harry, Tom and Trott would all make public statements confirming they, and the rest of their colleagues, had no desire to be his friend any more. When Sjin made a solo return to Youtube, multiple members of the network denounced him.
Comic writers Grant Morrison and Mark Millar used to be close with Morrison acting as a mentor to Millar, frequently worked together, and Morrison even ghost wrote a good chunk of Millar's Swamp Thing run just so Millar could get his foot in the door at DC. Then came Millar's run on The Authority and work with Ultimate Marvel, where Millar embraced the Darker and Edgier route Morrison themself openly despised and wanted to subvert. When asked if they were still friends, Morrison bluntly said "No" and even expressed a desire to run Millar over.
Kevin Smith once enjoyed a working relationship and friendship with Harvey Weinstein. That came to a crashing hault when Weinstein begrudgingly came to the premiere of Red State, only to spend most of the screening talking loudly in the lobby until Smith outright told him to shut the fuck up or go home. Smith promptly denounced him when his history of sexual abuse became public.
Will Stamper and Chris O'Neil used to be collaberators and good friends during the early days of You Tube and Newgrounds. However around the time that Chris started Oneyplays, Stamper got pissed what with Chris bashing Letsplayers on Sleepycabin and calling out his hypocrisy. Since then Chris has tweeted that he's no longer friends with Stamper.