Guesses from about what would be in the game before The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword was released has been moved to a separate page:
- Technically, how one holds a bow is based on eye dominance, not hand dominance. Link's just right eye dominant, and therefore holds his bow in his left hand. Furthermore, right eye dominance is more common than left eye dominance, so Link is already more likely to hold his bow in his left hand.
- ...he holds the bow in his right hand, lefty-style. Also, I thought he was always ambidextrous, or close to it, but that was really just me thinking that, in retrospect.
- How one 'should' use a bow is based on eye dominance, but that doesn't mean people instinctively hold it the way they should (which was the case for this troper).
- As with many other subjects, hand dominance is not limited to a binary state. Cross-dominance is a condition where a person's ability to use different items is better with one hand or the other, but not always the same hand for every task. They may be left-handed at writing but not, say, sword fighting. This is actually quite common but hardly touched upon in Real Life. Being ambidextrous is a form of cross-dominance, where the individual is typically equally proficient with both hands at most activities.
- Jossed. He's the Hero of Legend.
- Errr... sorry, how is that jossed then? Just because he's the Hero of Legend in this game doesn't mean he can't be the ghostly being referred to as the Hero's Shade in Twilight Princess...
- One problem with this: The Gamecube version of TP is canon, which means the Hero's Spirit is canonically left-handed. SS Link is right-handed.
- Jossed by Hyrule Historia, which explicitly states that he's the Hero of Time. And Skyward Sword Link is ambidextrous.
- Hero of (the) Sky.
- Hero of Skies?
- Hero of the Master Sword.
- Master of the Sword? Eh?
- The Master.
- Hero of Hylia.
- Hero of the Goddess.
- Hero of Legend.
- Sidekick of Groose.
- Hero of Rebirth (in multiple ways — he helped to give law back to the surface, Hylia was reborn as the Zelda of his era, and he was the original Link in the cycle of rebirth.)
- The First Hero
- That's unlikely, as the introduction states that Hylia did have another hero before him, during the war that led to the creation of Skyloft. However, nothing suggests that the hero was a Link.
- The First Link in the Chain, perhaps?
- That's unlikely, as the introduction states that Hylia did have another hero before him, during the war that led to the creation of Skyloft. However, nothing suggests that the hero was a Link.
- Alternatively, the clothes that Ocarina Link wears are just bigger versions of the Kokiri clothes he's used to, and the clothes that SS Link wears later become the Hero's Clothes in Twilight Princess. They are identical, down to the embroidery on the tunic and the chainmail.
- It says in the manual for OoT that the Kokiri tunic is "One Size Fits All". Clothes changing would be pointless, he just got bigger in his One Size Fits All tunic.
- That outfit (at least in Skyward Sword) is supposed to be the Skyloft Knight academy outfit in Link's year's color. For example, you meet a character who is stated to have graduated last year, with the same outfit... but in yellow.
- Zelda mentions that Hylia gave her sailcloth to her chosen hero; in the same way that she's a reincarnation of the goddess, this fanfic (not written by me) raises the possibility of Link being the reincarnation of that hero.
- Or, due to the Timey-Wimey Ball, the story of Hylia's chosen hero and the sailcloth is actually the story of Link getting the sailcloth from Zelda in the first place.
- I support this theory. Possible supporting facts is the Time Wimey Ball; since Impa AKA the Old Woman and "Grannie" is the originator of the Impas who protect the Zeldas and has in fact lived for thousands of years awaiting the moment Zelda awakens, it could have been perfectly possible for her to spread these stories in the past to take shape in the future, essentially giving the legend Zelda tells an air of Self-Fulfilling Prophecy when seen in hindsight.
- Or, due to the Timey-Wimey Ball, the story of Hylia's chosen hero and the sailcloth is actually the story of Link getting the sailcloth from Zelda in the first place.
- To expand upon this, given Demise makes it clear that Link is the very first human to display anything resembling a backbone in his presence, Hylia's Chosen Hero was himself a deity. A really fierce deity.
- Wait...you don't mean...
- The people in Skyloft aren't just convinced that Link is a narcoleptic, Link is a narcoleptic. This explains why Zelda calls him "sleepy head" and why he almost falls asleep when sitting in chairs.
Instead, he could be autistic. In this case, the behaviors could be explained by a lack of comprehension of social norms — it may not be normal to sleep in everyone's beds and smash their pots, but Link doesn't understand this, and most of Skyloft's population have graciously decided to tolerate the various "unique" behaviors of their most "special" resident without comment, having decided that that's just how he is, and that they're willing to live with it.
It would also explain his muteness.
- Sorta confirmed by Hyrule Warriors.
- She's not THAT dormant, and it certainly explains Navi...
- I think it's a mix of that and the Loftwing theory. Although I definitely see the similarity.
- I think it's more likely that both are true to a certain extent. So, the Goddess Crest may be based on a Loftwing (obvious when looking at the complete crest, as used by the Royal Family in later games) and Fi's cape itself (as well as the Master Sword's guard) might be based on a bird's wing.
- Going along with the theory that Ghirahim was a general in Demise's army before being made a sword spirit, it's possible that Fi was originally a human being, perhaps someone who lost her life in the war, and who Hylia decide to preserve by linking her with the Goddess Sword. Her style of dress shares similarities with what Impa wears, and her being so agile and graceful as a sword spirit would be appropriate for a member of a tribe of ninjas. Her being sealed in a comatose sleep inside the sword is similar to the shrine monks in Breath of the Wild, and the fact that the Trial of the Sword has similar aesthetics to the Sheikah's ancient technology suggests a possible connection between the Sheikah and the Master Sword.
- She pushes Link from possibly lethal heights twice in the beginning of the game, and it's implied that this is a normal occurrence.
- In her defense, they have the Loftwings at their beck-and-call, and the point of Link meeting Zelda that morning was to go for a flight together.
- When she rescues Link the first time, she's more concerned about her Loftwing than her childhood friend that she almost killed.
- Aside from Link, Groose, and her father, almost no one ever really brings up the fact that she's missing; almost as if they're trying to forget about her.
- Almost straight after worrying about the strain of carrying two people on her Loftwing, she suddenly jumps on-top of Link's with no regard for the bird.
- She manipulated Link, who I must reiterate, is her childhood friend that she may or may not be in love with. If it was just this, then it might be forgivable given the circumstances, but when you factor in the first two points, it's just establishing a pattern of behavior.
- To be fair, that wasn't Zelda doing that. It was Hylia.
- "Sociopath" is probably not the correct term, but all this could be taken as evidence for a personality diorder of some sort.
- To be fair, that wasn't Zelda doing that. It was Hylia.
- One of the bugs is called "Gerudo Dragonfly", meaning that "Gerudo" does not derive from "Groose".
- But besides that, we don't hear another mention of "Gerudo". Gerudo could have lived there at one point before Skyward Sword, but right now it seems unlikely, even with the dragonfly. That, and I kind of doubt Groose's similar appearance to the Gerudo/Ganondorf is entirely coincidental. Red hair/gold eyes is an unusual combination.
- What's more, during the few cutscenes after he gets the Triforce, Link is positioned in a very distinctive three-person formation with two other people. When he enters the sealed temple for the last time, he looks for a moment at Impa (on his left), and Groose (on his right), all of whom then turn to face the door to Zelda's room. This formation repeats itself during Impa's exit, when Zelda comes toward Impa and recognizes her Bracelet. Groose is in the back, looking confusedly at Zelda as she approaches. Link is on his left, closer to Impa. Zelda is on his opposite side, approaching the happy reunion. In this way, Groose is positioned in the place reserved for the bearer of the Triforce of Power, along with Link the Bearer of Courage and Zelda the Bearer of Wisdom.
- Just look at his hair! Can't you picture him saying "Attention Link! My hair definitely did not hide your Loftwing in a cave behind the waterfall!
- Those child-grabbing classes were worth every penny!
- Alternatively, Groose's descendents include both Kemo and Gaston.
- Gonzo is probably the most likely of the bunch to be his descendant; it certainly would create a nice thematic and familial connection between Groose and his Groosenator and Alfonzo and his train.
Both harbor a grudge against Link, are implied to have a crush on his childhood friend, and eventually come to respect Link.
- A. Groose seems to be the progenitor of what would become the Gerudo in terms of features.
- B. It appears that Impa may have been affected, as she also is noticeably reincarnated throughout the series as someone who has ties to directly protecting/caring for Zelda, but she wasn't directly cursed by Demise, meaning the effect may have accidentally exceeded what he intended.
- C. So far, this is the first and last time we've seen a character that looks, acts, and is named like Groose.
- D. Tying into A. it's not specified why, but it's said one male is born to the Geurdo every 100 years. Implying a magic of sorts. Now this process is never elaborated on, but it's never spoken of if there was another male after Ganondorf that was born in any of the diverging timelines where Gerudos have appeared.
- Or, alternately, like with the real-world "Yin-Yang", the empty space could represent "Negative Space", or a balancing mechanism; it could even represent the darkness that Demise himself represents.
- Or, Hylia is the oft-rumored "fourth goddess" who represents the upside down triangle at the bottom of OoT's Hylian Shield.
- While there is a fair bit of evidence to support this, it also seems that Hylia may have had more "domains" (to use a D&D term) than just time. She seems to be the goddess of light, life, and time at the very least, and the religion in Hyrule and its allied nations (the Kingdom of Zora and the Goron Chiefdom primarily, but later even including the Gerudo) become a henotheistic belief system where she is revered above all other deities and even sometimes treated as the only "true" god with all others treated as lesser.
- The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past states that the people were unable to find anyone worthy of the Master Sword when Ganon obtained the Triforce in the Sacred Realm and prepared to invade Hyrule, implying that there was no Link and Zelda before ALTTP Link and Zelda (ALTTP Zelda was called Zelda the First according to the Nintendo Character Guide). Then came The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, which was supposed to be based on the Imprisoning War backstory of A Link to the Past. And look how turned out...
- That Ocarina of Time was meant to be a depiction of the Imprisoning War was merely a fan theory that wasn't substantiated official word. While there are obvious parallels, the treatment of the canon as a myth cycle (where old stories become corrupted over time into legends), and even deadpan mockery by Fi ("Ah, oral tradition. The least reliable method of information exchange.") suggests it is either NOT the Imprisoning War or the the Imprisoning War never actually happened.
- Addendum: Mattas was, like Hylia, a deity. A fierce deity.
- But Fi usually calls Link "Master Link" or "Master" a lot more than just using his name (the ending being one of a few exceptions). Maybe "mattas" is hylian for "master".
- Debatable. "Mattas" corresponds to "Link," but "Master Link" is linked with "Ma'i-Mattas." This normally wouldn't be that important, but the two "Mattas" clips are different from each other. Mattas by itself has the accent on the second syllable, but the Mattas in Ma'i-Mattas has the same stress on both syllables. This was intentional. Most likely, "master (name)" in ancient Hylian is "Ma'i-(name) and "Link" is just how the (common?) Hylian name "Mattas" is translated.
- Fi is actually saying "Mati" and "Madas" when every she says "Master" and "(Insert name)" respectively, but the basic point stands; the consistency of those vocalizations means we know the Hylian word for master, and likely, "Madas" is the first Hero's name, since even the Hyrule Historia states not all the Heroes were actually named Link, that's just the name of legend history gives them.
- Actually, the part says that "they may not even share the same name" in a way that suggests they do not share a family or clan name, as is typical of Japanese naming conventions. Given the context that the previous line gave (that some may be related, either directly or indirectly), it seems to merely suggest they do not all share the same bloodline.
- The thing about them not sharing the same name may simply be a reference to the fact that the player doesn't have to name them Link.
- But Fi usually calls Link "Master Link" or "Master" a lot more than just using his name (the ending being one of a few exceptions). Maybe "mattas" is hylian for "master".
- Or, perhaps, given Fi has a sort of Voice of the Legion effect, she is speaking in two languages at once and "Madas" is the Ancient Hylian word of the common word "link", as in a connection.
Based off of this, I figure his Ganon form is Demise taking a more direct role in the conflict, and the fact that he is permanently in this form in pre-OoT games (which occur later in the timeline) can be attributed to Demise deciding to do away with Ganondorf's human form so that he can directly act.
With The Wind Waker, the two might have been separated; in the opening, we see the events that led to the flooding of Hyrule, but the figure we see terrorizing Hyrule is rather demonic-looking, whereas in-game Ganondorf is far more human than his other appearances and I believe this is the only game he does not have a beast-like form. This would serve to explain Ganondorf's rather sympathetic characterization; not knowing he was possessed, he would have tried to justify his actions to himself, claiming he wanted to help his people escape the harsh desert, despite his actions in OoT not suggesting this (as the Gerudo never actually leave the desert, despite Ganondorf ruling Hyrule).
- Actually there's a minimum of two Ganondorfs, considering that Ocarina of Time and Four Swords Adventures give him separate origin stories.
- Not possible. Demise was killed, and his consciousness was sealed in the Master Sword. Possession requires a consciousness.
- IIRC, Demise specifically stated that an incarnation of his hatred would appear to carry on his war against all the Zeldas and Links for eternity. So while Ganondorf is most definitely not Demise or being controlled by him, he's certainly subconsciously influenced by him.
- The sequel to Breath of the Wild appears to give some support to this idea, since Calamity Ganon is sealed away forever at the end but a mummy that appears very similar to Ganondorf appears in the trailer, exuding Malice. If this is Ganondorf but Ganon is gone for good, it could potentially mean the cycle will be broken after the new game.
- Guesses as to which villain is which attribute:
- Majora is madness.
- Vaati is either greed or lust.
- Bellum is, obviously, mind.
- Malladus is probably either his body or a relative.
- Or they all represent his hatred, as the other villains really only come to prominence in times and places where Ganondorf can't rear his head.
- We already know that Ganon is his incarnation of hate.
- Bellum: The flood that was caused by the goddesses due to Ganon would have caused it to grow and gain power. Which allows him to wreak havoc in his area.
- Malladus: That new land wouldn't have been there if it weren't for the flood. Since refugees and travalers can gather there over time, it would be an ample target for causing terror. And assuming at any given period there is only one demon king, he could easily have taken over after Demise.
- Majora: The mask came from an ancient tribe that used it for rituals. Since the tribe is long gone, nobody knows what power the mask holds. It also means no one really knows what these rituals were for; the tribe's god, perhaps? Theoretically, anybody else could have found Termina. Which means that there's a chance that Demise could have found Terminia, became a god to that tribe, and put some of his power into the mask.
- Vaati: We don't know how he became fascinated with the evil in the hearts of men. So he could've been corrupted by some remnant of Demise, maybe an incarnation of his hate before Ganon. Also, the whole War of the Bound Chest could've involed some incarnation of Demise's hate, something that was caused by him, or something that connects to him. Which means that Demise indirectly gave Vaati the opportunity to destroy Hyrule and/or humanity.
Demise's influence must also be able to extend across time as well — his hatred's incarnation having received one third of the sacred triangles he wished to obtain on his own must certainly have helped.
- Fi did say that one of the reasons she went to sleep was so that the remains of Demise's consciousness could be purged from the sword over time. But if Zelda/Hylia was having trouble keeping Demise sealed, then there's no reason to think Fi will have any better luck, other than the epic beatdown Link gave him earlier, but that may be temporary. What if Demise is getting stronger while sealed within the Master Sword, not weaker? What if each time Link defeats Ganon or some other incarnation of Demise's evil, some of his power collects in the sword itself, where its original consciousness is contained? And whose body did we leave the sword stuck through in both Wind Waker and Twilight Princess?
- Unless she did succeed in killing what was left of him. Could be that she just needs a lot of time to do it, which would explain why every Link who uses the Master Sword only ever holds it for one game. She just needs time to recharge in between absorbing the parts of Demise she got from Ganondorf. However, the process is taxing enough that she can't spare the energy needed to manifest. The pedestal might actually help speed the process up.
- Yet, a new Demon King appeared about a century later... Demise's curse was not about Ganondorf, but about bringing grief to Link and Zelda's heirs in general.
So the gods can't rescind his wish, considering he got it honourably and all, so instead they make the wish not absolute — Demise is defeated, but he still lives through the Gate of Time. Therefore, the wish is granted, but it is not absolute. My opinion is that the Triforce doesn't make the wishes absolute if they are done for a selfish purpose — when Ganondorf used the Triforce in ALTTP, he got the Dark Realm, but he ended up getting stopped, didn't he? And Hylia and Fi didn't know about the rule because no one had ever used the Triforce before.
- Alternately, Link's wish wasn't actually to kill Demise, but to save Zelda, which vanquishing Demise was merely a necessary step towards. It makes sense in a way; the Triforce responds to the deepest wish in someone's heart, and Link had never heard of Demise before his adventure started. To him, Demise was just a defeated enemy from a time that wasn't his, and aside from Zelda, he had no real personal quarrel with him. On the other hand, saving Zelda was his goal from the start. The Triforce reflected this by only killing Demise in the present, when he was an immediate threat to Zelda, but not in the past, where he was sealed away safely until Ghirahim intervened. This would make the Triforce sort of an inverse Literal Genie, fulfilling the spirit of the wish but taking liberties on the implementation. Remember Fi's warning to Link that he should focus on destroying Demise before using the Triforce? Sounds like she was trying to keep something like this from happening.
Only mortals can wield the Triforce; that is why Hylia had to reincarnate as Zelda in order to use it. Demise wanted to use the sacred power for himself, but chances are he couldn't use it because he is also a god. This left him at a huge disadvantage in Skyward Sword. As Ganondorf, Demise could use the Triforce just as well as Zelda and Link can.
Ganondorf started out as a Gerudo King who did underhanded and downright vicious things for the sake of his people. It was not until Link pulled the Master Sword, which Demise was sealed inside, that Ganondorf became truly and wholly evil because Demise's hate was unleashed upon the person attempting to claim the Triforce when the Master Sword was pulled out. Ganondorf was then driven insane by Demise's hate and did not regain his sanity until after he was defeated at the end of Ocarina of Time. This can also be why Ganondorf does not come back as a human in the ALttP timeline, being warped by Demise's hate.
- Jossed with the release of Breath of the Wild, where Ganon has been reduced to nothing but a mass of ancient hatred and malice, more than 10,000 years after Skyward Sword ended — Demise's curses is the only reason he still lives.
- Breath of the Wild implies otherwise, as a large rift in western Hyrule bears the name "Breach of Demise". It's a significant distance from Death Mountain, though given the game being set in the distant future, it could just be a reference.
- There isn't really any evidence of this, but the mental image is absolutely hilarious.
- I wondered about the same thing once I found out what Ghirahim is. I like to think that right before you beat him, Demise's game pauses and he's informed that his hearts have depleted quite dramatically, and that he should replenish them at the earliest opportunity.
- Oddly enough, her control art shows she's _supposed_ to have arms under her cloak, strapped to her forearms. Yet neither Skyward Sword nor Hyrule Warriors include her arms under her cloak.
There's also the thread Ghirahim says that binds him and Link together, the one he'll stain red with the hero's blood. In the Japanese version, he explicitly mentions the Red String of Fate, an Asian proverb that means two people who meet constantly are bound by a red string, and are meant to be together. Not to mention getting close enough to Link to make him uncomfortable, on their first meeting. Even better, during the second fight, if he hits you he'll take the time to lick your blood off his sword; either the fight excites him that much, or he really wants a taste of the hero, if you know what I mean.
Basically, Ghirahim's love for Link makes him frustrated, which is why he gets so ANGRY throughout the game almost every time they meet. He's conflicted, torn between carrying out his orders from Demise, and these newfound emotions for the hero. It's what drives him over the edge, makes him go crazier than he already is. I think the death of Demise, and Link and Zelda's reunion that made him snap. He goes Yandere and decides to just kill Zelda, and when Link comes to rescue her, decides he'll kill the hero too. Oh, and bring back his master, Demise, too. Too much of Ghirahim's actions don't make sense, he's a blood-lusting maniac who loves killing, but he never just stabs Link in the gut and get it over with. The only possible thing that could hold him back so much would be love.
I mean, come on, they're practically the same character! Recurring boss, complete psycho who works for the main villain, but is much more eye-catching than the main villain, to the point that he kind of steals the role (in the first two episodes, in Albedo's case), white hair and clothing while also being very much Light Is Not Good, similar personalities, alternates between wanting to kill the main characters and trying to molest them... need I go on?
- Well, in Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, the giant birds evolved from horses, maybe the opposite happens here?
If someone whose heart is not in perfect balance gets the Triforce, they only get one piece and the other two find their destined bearers. Ganondorf was not chosen by the Gods to get the Triforce of Power; he just stole it, and then the other two pieces sought out Link and Zelda. But what if Ganondorf valued Wisdom or Courage above Power? Perhaps Groose's bloodline would've been chosen to inherit the Triforce of Power in the event one of the other two was taken by someone unworthy, but instead Ganondorf (and by extension Demise) stole his.
- Don't worry. Groose◊'s descendant got his day in the limelight. He became a legendary hero◊, married another spunky blonde princess, mastered another form of timeshifting, and defeated another giant abomination covered in spines. (Unfortunately, it didn't turn out so well for Groose's native sky islands — but hey, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
- Gaepora isn't the father of the Zelda that was the Seventh Sage. He's the father of the mortal form of Hylia.
- Jossed. Hyrule Historia reveals that Rauru is actually Kaepora Gaebora. Gaepora is just a Shout-Out to the characters.
- I believe Malladus is a new reincarnation of Demise's hatred, as they're both given the title of Demon King, and in the timeline Malladus appears in, Ganondorf has been killed, but Demise's curse lasts for all time.
- The curse follows the hero and the goddess, which makes it a little strange that it goes after the Hero of Winds' descendants (who lack the soul of the original hero). Malladus is most likely just another demon. As for why he and Demise share the title of "Demon King", that's probably just basic succession; after Demise bit the big one, somebody had to take over...
- Or; the curse goes straight for Tetra's descendants, since the soul of the hero is unaccounted for. Both Bellum and Cole are explicitly interested only in Zelda, only to be foiled by a hero they weren't expecting.
- It's also worth noting that the demon lord to the left of said silhouette appears to be wearing a mask◊.
- And Chancellor Cole is his descendant.
- I think Cole is a Lokomo, though.
- Alternately, the Demon Majora was somehow exorcised, its power collected into a mask, leaving behind a human figure which became the Mask Salesman.
- The design similarities are apparent and intentional, down to his phony smile. The main difference is that Rupin's hair is blond while the Salesman's is auburn, though that could be due bleaching or magic. This doesn't necessarily have to contradict the previous WMG either, and could be both at once.
- Once he becomes human, he eventually has children, but Demise's curse takes advantage of the demon remnants left behind, eventually manifesting itself as Ganondorf. Of course, this means Link would be responsible for the evil unleashed on the world, but it wouldn't be the first time... Or it would be the first time, but wouldn't be the last time when you take chronology into account.
- In addition, if you look at the symbol on the floor of his house and turn it ninety degrees, it highly resembles the Gerudo symbol, Batreaux looks like a muscular redhead when human and as a demon had much in common with the SNES Ganon. Both had an affinity for bats, skull decor, blue skin, and pig-like faces.
- Instead of having fled to escape the sealing, maybe he escaped it be because he deserted from Demise's army well before it happened? Hylia sends up Skyloft to get the humans out of the way before she fights and ultimately seals away Demise and his army of demons. Given that he doesn't share the violent tendencies of the other demons, maybe he ultimately decided to desert from the demon army and was already on the run from them when Syloft rose, and he managed to hitch a ride on it. Hylia never even noticed he was there.
- There is also the matter of the Cloud Barrier, which makes the sky islands invisible from the surface and completely hides the surface from Skyloft.
- Some of the events of the game take place as much as 1000 years in the past, implied to be shortly after Hylia raised Skyloft. So maybe it was her Chosen Hero from that time period?
- Alternately, Tentalus is the long-lost mutated child gone rogue of Mike and Celia, as they were a couple in the movie.
- Also, Faron got herself a chaperone. Remember Ordona?
- Thank goodness someone else also has their gripes with Faron. I thought I was alone!
- Alternatively, Faron, Eldin, and Lanaryu aren't names, but titles given to the guardian of said region.
- Possible, but they seem to have changed over time. By the time Breath of the Wild takes place, the guardian dragons are named Naydra, Farosh, and Dinraal. It seems more likely they are names.
- Alternatively, the Light Spirits have different names that aren't known by the people of Hyrule since most people can't see them. They go by the names that humans have given them due to the dragons' names being passed down by oral tradition.
- Of the three, it's not entirely impossible to see Lanayru dying off. Lanayru desert probably eventually becomes the Gerudo Desert of Ocarina of Time. Lanayru, the most carefree and, yes, careless of the three might have been killed (we know they can die as we think of it, even if they technically keep some consciousness) as the hostile Gerudo population moved into the region, or perhaps even from carelessness (he'd already be dead if it weren't for Link's time-traveling shenanigans).
- Furthermore, in OoT, weren't there giant skeletal remains near the Spirit Temple? Or am I horribly misremembering?
- No, but in Twilight Princess, there is the huge fossilized form of Stallord encountered in the Arbiter's Grounds. It's long been a fan-suggestion that Stallord could be Volvagia's remains; Lanayru works even better.
- Furthermore, in OoT, weren't there giant skeletal remains near the Spirit Temple? Or am I horribly misremembering?
- Faron also sustained serious injuries, and Link saved her. While the woods are typically a more livable area in Zelda games than the desert, Faron could have been done in either by her own self-importance, or even displeased the goddesses when she forced Link to take her own test, after he had passed the others. Her reckless behavior could have also led to the goddesses replacing her with better guardians, such as the Deku Tree or Jabu-Jabu/Jabun. Another possibility, however, is that Faron eventually begat the original Zoras. The Parellas treat her like a queen, and Zoras typically have a monarchical government. Her scale grants the ability to swim, something only seen from Zoras up until now. In addition to this, take a look at the "Tadtones", compared to some newly hatched Zoras◊ from Majora's Mask. Of course, if her descendants are Zoras, or she helped the Parellas evolve into the Zoras, that still doesn't explain where she is.
- Maybe she took over from Lanayru when he kicked it (or was sacked for incompetence), bringing back water and explaining why Lanayru province isn't entirely desert in later games.
- Finally, we have Eldin. He's the only one of the three dragons in the game which we never have to save from mortal danger, and who actually proves he can handle himself. He lives in a volcano which probably becomes Death Mountain, and unlike Lanayru Desert, the only indigenous population we ever see in volcanic areas are either beasts who he could handle himself against, or the Gorons, who are, well... the Gorons. He's very reclusive, which could have led to him surviving longer, as almost nothing ventures into Death Mountain to kill him. We see two other dragons who live in volcanos in the Zelda series, Volvalgia and Valoo. Now, Volvagia I don't really have a good explanation for, except that he could have been one of Eldin's children who turned evil for... some reason? And then we have Valoo. Valoo is implied to be very old (he speaks old Hylian), and he has a similar fit of rage causing volcanic activity on the island to Eldin's during Skyward Sword. There exists a serious possibility that Eldin was living inside the same volcano for several thousand years.
- The original Volvagia may not have been as evil as Ganon's resurrection of him. All we know is that he ate Gorons, and that may have been in defense of the volcano. We've seen Faron get quite angry at invaders, and nobody's seen the Mogmas ever since Skyward Sword...
- Valoo is also stated to be descended from Volvagia; if he and Eldin are connected by descent, Volvagia does need to come between them.
- Regardless of which is true, this means that Ganondorf's actions in Ocarina most likely corrupted all of the Dragons. When the Hero of Time defeated Ganon, they were "reborn" into their spiritual forms seen in Twilight Princess.
- Possibly Jossed. Not only do they look very different, skeletons that share features to both Levias and the Wind Fish are found in different areas in Breath of the Wild; the Leviathan found in Gerudo Desert has a skull like a baleen whale's and small wings on its back, and the one in Eldin has a large forehead plate with a visible blowhole and jaws like a toothed whale, though lacking teeth.
Yup.
- Or _is_ the Mask Salesman, since Majora's Mask hinted he came from the moon.
- Well, this comic has the same idea.
- On the matter of the Elder Kiwi, I think it is more he merges with the great tree in the center of the woods and that becomes the Deku Tree.
- More likely, some Skyloftians brought some "tiny birds" back up to the clouds for use as pets, in much the same way we look upon very small dogs. Eventually, the humans all moved to the surface. Evolution and residual magic stemming from the physical presence of a major goddess for 15 years or so and of the Triforce for just a few moments did the rest.
- Alternately, when a Skyloftian and a Loftwing really love each other...
- Actually, the Ooccoo at one point tell link they "created the Hylians" (or in the Japanese version, helped them build society on the surface world). The small birds in the Sealed Grounds look more similar to the birds in the Cloud Tops area in Minish Cap, and the Wind Tribe that live there are said to be descendants of Skyloft's people.
- Also, it fits a lot of the references in Twilight Princess. The sky beings indeed founded Hyrule, Impa's descendants maintain contact between the two worlds, bird statues are key to traveling between earth and sky, and the Sky Cannon could be a technological extension of the Groosenator.
- So, the Oocca are descended from a portion of Skyloft's formerly human population that stayed up there indefinitely and didn't migrate to the surface? Well, that's super weird, but I guess no weirder than Wind Waker's implication that Zoras evolved into the Rito, so maybe...
- Except that in The Minish Cap, the Wind Tribe is confirmed to have started living in the Cloud Tops after Hyrule was united by its first king, and I always got the impression that they built that house and the palace themselves, then raised them into the sky years later. The Palace of Winds itself, as well as the Cloud Tops have very little in common, apart from both being in the sky and single-handedly ruining the laws of physics in the process. I just don't see any of Zelda's three sky city things being related, personally.
- There seems to be some information in Hyrule Historia and The Legend of Zelda Encyclopedia that support the idea. It's possible that when the Wind Tribe decided to leave Hyrule and the surface world, they found Skyloft and moved in.
- The Wind Tribe, alternately, are the last Hylians left in Skyloft. Their history describes how they ascended to the heavens, and Castor Wilds could be the depression left when the main island of Skyloft rose into the sky.
Of course, the sand sea and a small part of the desert likely stays the same — thus creating Gerudo Desert and the Haunted Wasteland. I suppose the Temple of Time could become Hyrule Castle Town and Hyrule Castle, with the Master Sword being relocated there for the events of OoT. Since Demise's essence is sealed inside the blade, that probably explains why it has time-traveling abilities... he, according to Fi, "conquered time itself..."
And the Sealed Grounds are the actual Temple of Time, seen as the Forest Temple in OoT, and the Temple of Time in TP.
- Except the fact that, as Hyrule Historia explicitly states, the Sealed Grounds is the Temple of Time, which heavily suggests the Master Sword never moved. At the least, that josses the theory that the Forest Temple in OoT is the Sealed Temple in SS. If anything, Hyrule Castle Town was originally located where the Faron Woods would logically be located in OoT, considering the Master Sword's location. And that's not even getting into where the Master Sword is found in TP.
- It's likely the Master Sword has moved several times, though how it moved is unknown. The Sealed Temple is shown to have become the Forgotten Temple in BOTW but with an added structure built up around the statue and the temple itself. The OoT Temple of Time isn't in the same location as the one in Twilight Princess either, and ends up on the Great Plateau along with the remains of Castle Town (but not the castle). The Master Sword is in neither, instead being in the Korok Forest. Similarly, it was in the Lost Woods in ALTTP. It's more than likely that while Rauru built the Temple of Time where he thought the Sealed Temple used to be, he was just wrong.
- Please, that was the 1% of the fans that can't shut up and let the 99% enjoy the game.
- And probably a largely different 1% in each case.
- Or, more likely, that they simply wanted to do something that looked nice rather than trying to be as realistic as possible. Like they usually do with most games.
- That's an awfully large height for water to get to...
- Two words: Colony Drop.
- It's actually based on artwork from A Link to the Past, specifically the floating island believed to be in the Sacred Realm according to legend. They were off a little bit, as the dungeon inside the statue instead has a portal to the Sacred Realm. Outset Island instead might be the tips of the Dueling Peaks, given Outset is actually two islands connected by a bridge.
- It's also possible that, being forest spirits, they just change shape on the whims of the Spirit Tree, like they did when they changed into Koroks.
- It seems that the Koroks aren't really just the Kokiri in a new form, but instead their successors. The Koroks were created by the younger Great Deku Tree in the Adult Timeline, possibly after the Kokiri left the forest and started growing up without the forest's magic keeping them young.
- That is completey opposite of all data we are given in the games.
- It seems that the Koroks aren't really just the Kokiri in a new form, but instead their successors. The Koroks were created by the younger Great Deku Tree in the Adult Timeline, possibly after the Kokiri left the forest and started growing up without the forest's magic keeping them young.
- "Must cease to exist"? No, it just means they aren't around. Hyrule is not the whole world. It's entirely possible that these races are still around, and just don't happen to inhabit Hyrule.
- The evolution possibility is not so unlikely. Both the Zora and Kokiri were shown to be evolving races throughout the series already (differently from, say, the Gorons, who never change). In the Parella/Zora case, it seems like a move from boneless solely aquatic beings to more humanoid and amphibious beings would be a step forward. In the Kikwi/Kokiri case, the Deku Tree's children were always more like spirits of the forest than an actual race, and the Kikwi being weird animal/plant hybrids seems to fit well with that (specially since the Korok are also like that).
- As for the Mogmas, it'd be a nice turnabout twist if their race isn't seen in Hyrule anymore because they've moved so deep underground that they've come to believe that "The Surface" is just a myth, same as the people of Skyloft once did.
In the distant past, humanity was at its peak as evidenced by the remains of advanced technology in the Lanayru Desert. Creatures such as Mogmas, Gorons, etc... were either created through experimentation and/or mutations or could possibly even be aliens. Some humans also mutated to grow more elven-like features, becoming the Hylians we know.
Something horrifying happened, however, freeing Demise and other demons to wipe out nearly all life on Earth. The past version of Zelda sacrificed herself to save what was left of humanity by raising Skyloft, and sealing the demons away. The other creatures remained on Earth for thousands of years, and nearly all knowledge of the past was lost.
If Link had been able to time-shift other places aside from an automated mining facility, he'd have likely seen large cities inhabited by many people and technological wonders far beyond anything ever seen. Too bad Demise blew it all up.
- Building on this, it is possible that the Zelda universe developed from the aftermath of one of the Shin Megami Tensei games. That series frequently involves demons invading either the modern day or some future Cyberpunk setting, and it's possible that Demise became their leader. The reason the Zelda universe has so many nonstandard fantasy creatures instead of the Fantasy Kitchen Sink of real life myths like Shin Megami Tensei is that all the demon fusions eventually led to them taking on entirely new forms. Heck, this all sounds very vaguely like the set-up for Shin Megami Tensei IV in particular, where a Medieval European Fantasy realm supplants the old high-tech place. Maybe Tokyo is under the ground somewhere beyond Hyrule's borders?
- The constellations seen from Hyrule and Termina are the same as those seen from Earth. Being that they exist in parallel universes, and that _Christianity_ was the originally intended religion of the setting (and some artifacts remaining even after replacing its mythology), it is almost certainly meant to be an alternate reality of Earth.
- There are two issues with this:
- Firstly, Zelda gets woken up again before the end of the game. Woken up in the proper time she originally lived as well for that matter (oh time travel). She isn't still asleep, which the Zelda of Zelda II still is at the start of the game. The sleeping Zelda thing was just a homage to Zelda II or an unrelated idea, not a set up for it.
- This actually could be plausible but would require Zelda to fall asleep again.
- Secondly, per the official timeline, Skyward Sword and Zelda II take place at opposite ends of history — Sword is the earliest game, and Zelda II the last in its specific branch of the timeline — and thousand of years apart.
- Firstly, Zelda gets woken up again before the end of the game. Woken up in the proper time she originally lived as well for that matter (oh time travel). She isn't still asleep, which the Zelda of Zelda II still is at the start of the game. The sleeping Zelda thing was just a homage to Zelda II or an unrelated idea, not a set up for it.
- There are some more issues:
- The Zelda in Zelda II is stated to be the first Princess Zelda, and this Zelda isn't a princess. The Kingdom of Hyrule in Zelda II's past is already established with a prosperous city surrounding the castle.
- Zelda II is a direct sequel to the first game, taking place 6 years later and starring the same Link.
- Even if a Hyrule were to be established after the end of the game by the people of Skyloft, it's more likely Zelda would be the queen rather than her father being king, given her powers and memories as Hylia have awakened.
- But the original Legend of Zelda's Hyrule already had towns, a royal family, and at least centuries of history; they just weren't in the physical game itself. Its immediate sequel had buttloads of towns.
- Not to mention Ganon(dorf) doesn't exist until Ocarina of Time.
- Jossed by the official timeline, which places a lot of games — The Minish Cap, Ocarina of Time, A Link to the Past, the Oracle games, Link's Awakening, A Link Between Worlds and Tri Force Heroes — between Skyward Sword and the first game.
- Actually, the Triforce didn't latch themselves to people until Ganondorf stole the Triforce the first time in Ocarina. When Link reforms the Triforce in Skyward Sword, he's seen with the entirety of it on his wrist, not just the Triforce of Courage. Sure, it's the first he sees on the back of his hand, but he eventually receives all of it. The reason it stayed together under his use is the same reason that it split when Ganondorf used it — the Triforce can only stay together while being used if the user is pure of heart. Ganondorf, using it for his own evil gain, splits the triangles, the (possibly) first time the Triforce has granted an evil wish. That is what caused the pieces to retreat to other individuals. The most likely explanation for their attachment to Link and Zelda is Demise's curse (that a reincarnation of his hatred (Ganon, other villains) would always come to face one with the spirit of the hero (Link) and one with the bloodline of the Goddess Hylia (Zelda)).
- According to Ocarina of Time, Bomb Flowers are harvested to produce bombs. The ones in Skyward Sword also can be extinguished and inserted into the bomb bag without any extra effort.
- Jossed. Skyward Sword is the first/earliest game in the timeline; the previous hero mentioned in the backstory has not been featured directly in any game thus far.
- I believe this is more a prediction of a future game, rather than trying to claim another existing game actually takes place earlier.
- Alternatively, the entire game is a stable time loop, as evidenced by Zelda's crystal being in the back room of the Sealed Temple the very first time you go there, and Impa having Zelda's bracelet the first time you meet her. The events of the game already happened — Demise was defeated, his conciousness sealed in the Master Sword and hidden in the Temple while his body was sucked back into the seal, where he rose again as the Imprisoned several more times, attempting to reach his lost conciousness at the Temple, before finally being killed.
- Just one thing, given that the game is a timeloop, then how can the Master Sword be both hidden in the Temple AND enshrined in the Statue of the Goddess in its Goddess Sword form?
- The Master Sword wasn't sealed away until after Demise was destroyed in the past, but the Gate of Time (and Zelda) are still in the present-day Sealed Temple. Demise's consciousness dies in the past, but his body remembers how it regained its true form... so it attempts to storm the Sealed Temple in order to consume Zelda's soul (again).
- But if Demise was defeated in the past, why does The Imprisoned exist in the present? Unless The Imprisoned was the very first incarnation of Demise's hatred or residual power or OH okay.
- That isn't the case, as The Imprisoned is the form Demise took after being sealed in the past. Ghirahim freed him from that form, which changed the past. It exists in the present because Link using the Triforce to make the island and statue crushing Demise pissed Ghirahim off so much he went back in time and did the ritual in the past, which altered the timeline.
- There's also the whole ordeal with the tree at the Sealed Temple - it doesn't exist in the present until Link plants it in the past. Then when he returns, it's there as if it always has been. So this game split the timeline twice.
So in T-1, let's assume that Demise was never fully resurrected and never made his curse, and that the Triforce never has to be sealed away because evil has been pretty much eradicated. It follows that this Hyrule becomes a golden land blessed by the presence of the whole Triforce completely controlled by the forces of good. This blessed Hyrule becomes the Sacred Realm.
But in T-2, with Demise having been sealed in the Master Sword but not fully destroyed, and with Demise's curse, evil still lurks across the land, leading to the wars for the Triforce first mentioned in A Link to the Past. But while the backstory states elsewhere that the Triforce in T-2 was sealed away, what might have actually happened is that the Seven Sages actually wished for the Triforce to be beyond the reach of evil, which was fulfilled by having the T-2 Triforce eradicated. Thus, by the time of Ocarina of Time, there is only a single Triforce across all timelines that exist by then.
Thus, the Temple of Time seen in Ocarina of Time does not actually access an entirely different dimension, but simply lets anyone using the Gate of Time access T-2. So when Ganondorf goes through to the Sacred Realm when Hero of Time Link gets the Master Sword, he is going to the Hyrule that was free from evil until he came. As a result, the golden Hyrule of T-1 is conquered by evil once again, and the Triforce is stolen.
The reason the Dark World is Hyrule's dark mirror is not because Ganon's dark heart turned it into that purely by magic, but because it was already Hyrule in another timeline. Because T-1 Hyrule was an evil-free utopia, there was no need to maintain any sort of army, meaning that Ganondorf conquered it rather easily. Certain gloomy aspects of the Dark World may stem more directly from the natural effects of being a subjugated realm.
As a result of all this, the split timelines that Word of God has officially confirmed (Adult timeline, Child timeline, Decline timeline) split off directly from T-2. However, T-1 gets split alongside it because the Sacred Realm/Dark World is confirmed to exist in all of them and gets affected differently each time as a result. In essence, there are actually eight timeline splits: the two from Skyward Sword, and the three pairs of splits for those previous two from Ocarina of Time.
On a side note, this might also result in two other effects regarding the two swords that are central to the plot of Skyward Sword.
For one thing, the Master Sword of T-1 does not contain the lingering essence of Demise. It's possible that, because it is completely free from any evil, it becomes the ultra-powerful Golden Sword from A Link to the Past. This would explain why it is found in the Dark World/Sacred Realm/T-1 Hyrule. And the reason it is found in the possession of the Great Fairy Venus rather than in a pedestal is because, during Ganondorf's invasion of the Sacred Realm/T-1 Hyrule, the forces of good took the T-1 Master Sword/Golden Sword from its pedestal and hid it before Ganondorf could find it and destroy it.
Also, as speculated above, Ghirahim does indeed become the Trident of Power. The Ghirahim of T-1 goes through the Gate of Time to T-2, revives Demise, gets forcibly turned into the Anti-Master Sword, and is eradicated when Link defeats Demise. However, the Ghirahim of T-2 would still exist; it's just that Demise being locked in the Master Sword would mean that his evil machinations would unfold quite differently from how they did throughout Skyward Sword.
First, because the resurrection of Demise is no longer a goal that T-2 Ghirahim can attain, his efforts instead focus on either conquering Hyrule himself or making sure Demise's curse is brought about. It's possible that Ghirahim became the founder and leader of the Dark Interlopers who tried to steal the T-2 Triforce and eventually became the Twili of Twilight Princess. This would explain certain similarities between the Twili characters and Ghirahim (similar Villain Teleportation, strange skin coloring, over-the-top mannerisms, ultimately subservient to the vastly more powerful Demise/Ganon). In fact, when Midna talks about the ancient king who was driven mad by the same greed that she sees in Zant's eyes, she may have been referring to T-2 Ghirahim.
But due to the failure of Ghirahim's Dark Interloper plot, he falls back on Plan B: seal himself in the Trident of Power and make sure that, in this form, he can help the eventual incarnation of Demise's hatred attain the height of his magical potential. In fact, Ghirahim may have either created or influenced the development of the Gerudo to make this flow more smoothly. For one, he influenced their culture so that they would wish to isolate themselves from the other inhabitants of Hyrule, making them extra protective of their desert land and all dwelling in it, including the Trident of Power's resting place. Also, he altered their biology so that there would only be one male Gerudo every 100 years, ensuring that, among this pet race of Ghirahim's, there would be a convenient vessel for Demise's curse who would be in a position of sufficient power (King of the Gerudo) to amass an army and be on high-enough diplomatic ground with the Royal Family of Hyrule to manipulate them. Twinrova may have been a colleague of Ghirahim's who made sure all this came to pass.
- Breath of the Wild actually posits some truth toward this theory =- the Trial of the Sword, designed to unleash the true power of the Master Sword, is hinted to take place inside the blade itself, and the rooms feature the same technological aesthetic as the ancient shrines constructed by the Sheikah.
- But the Fierce Deity's mask was implied to be evil.
- Majora said that. Besides, it all depends on how you define "evil." Majora's Mask dealt with the theme of moral ambiguity a lot, especially towards the end.
- According to Aonuma himself, the Fierce Deity Mask is the embodiment of the hopes and memories of the people of Termina, tempered by the heroic resolve and righteous fury of Link himself, which means it's just a mask and not actually a real god. It just turns link into one. Its Japanese name, "Kishin Mask", specifically means it's wrathful or evil being. And it wasn't Majora who said that the mask was evil, the game's item description when the mask is acquired."You got the Fierce Deity's Mask! Could this dark mask's power be as bad as Majora's?"
The Pedestal of Time isn't just a lock, it's an inhibitor. While the Sword lies within it, Demise's influence is small, only able to slightly manipulate things, create potential evils. When it's removed from its pedestal by the Hero of the age, be it the Hero of the Winds, the Hero of Time, the The Hero of Light, or any other Hero, however, things seem to go from bad to worse. The Hero of Time pretty much allows Demise's incarnation to obtain the Triforce and take over the world after lifting the blade. The Hero of Winds inadvertently allows Demise's incarnation access to the one thing he needed to reform the Triforce, and while the Hero of Light doesn't directly do anything to help the cause by lifting the blade, Demise's incarnation does begin to regain the majority of his power ONLY after the Master Sword is removed.
So, in the end, while the Master Sword is indeed the Blade of Evil's Bane and the favorite weapon of the Hero, it gained a completely unintended purpose: it is, in essence, the source of the evil it is meant to vanquish. In the end, in order to break the cycle, either the spirit of Demise must be expunged, or the sword itself must be destroyed.
- Spraying it with cleaner wouldn't cause it to just disappear either. Cleaner doesn't destroy dust, just makes it stick to whatever you wipe it off with.
- This is all but confirmed. The shape is said to be of unknown origin, but the material is not.
So here's my theory. Hylia forged a number of powerful magical swords to use in the war against Demise. During the war, Demise seized one and corrupted it, forming the Dark Master Sword and Ghirahim, who served as one of his lieutenants. Hylia was forced to seal them all away, but she knew it wouldn't last, so she created Fi (perhaps she was inspired by Ghirahim) and went on with her plan for when Demise escaped.
The other magical swords were lost to time, but they retained some of their power. One of them was found by the Minish and given to the Hero of Men, but it was broken by Vaati and reforged with the power of the elements to become the Four Sword. The Lokomo Sword was found by nondescript "Spirits of Good" and given to the Lokomo (who gave it to Link), the Great Fairy's Sword ended up in Termina, and perhaps the White/Magical Swords (from the original) and the Kokiri Sword (from OoT and MM) might be related too. This is a comparatively weak WMG, but I just like the idea.
- What about the Phantom Sword from Phantom Hourglass?
- That one is forged in-game, you have to gather the materials yourself.
Proof being that the robots are in the exact same positions... just damaged by time. But wait. You can also find bones of Bokoblins. When they die, they poof into darkness, they don't leave behind bones.
So here's my proposal. Timeshift stones don't turn back the clock. They restore life energy, but they also take it away. An active Time Shift pours out lots of energy, but an inactive one absorbs it until it reaches capacity. All the desolation we see in Lanayru is basically a result of draining the life energy out of an environment by using it for stuff it wasn't intended (like powering boats). The Stones are meant to take as much power as they give out and can keep life forms and other stuff from the effects of time as long as that energy remains balanced. Using the energy to power other shit took that energy out of the equation. The robots realized this, but tried to balance the equation by digging up more Stones, which only contributed to the problem. Eventually, all the energy ran out all at once. The problem was that the robots and Bokoblins spent years and years in suspended time, which caused all their life energy to get absorbed by the system at once.
Now the stones you run into have sucked all the energy from the stuff within the radius and eventually reachieved balance of energy. Link is unaffected by the stones because all the inactive ones he bumps into are already fully charged and activating them just causes them to pull the energy they put out back in. On top of that, Link only ever spends a little while in the suspended time fields anyway, so what energy does get absorbed from him is negligible anyway and can easily be regained by sleeping outside the field.
Sad part is that eventually Captain and his crew will run down the ship's Stone again and it will deactivate.
- It doesn't seem that the Timeshift Stones wear out from use, and in fact the Ocarina of Time is carved from one//
And if a human gathers enough of them, they can turn into a demon! Good thing they're such a rare treasure, eh?
- Water Dragon's Scale: Self-explanatory. From Faron to Farore, with love.
- Clawshots: Given to Nayru by either Lanayru or his closest robot servants. This means, indeed, that like the Beetle and the Gust Bellows, the Clawshots are Lanayru technology.
- Fireshield Earrings: A gift to Din by either Eldin, an ancestor of the Mogma Chief, or the Gorons.
- Stone of Trials: From a citizen of Skyloft to Hylia.
- Or they operate the same, it's just that Link hasn't received Time Traveler's Immunity until doing some time traveling himself. To explain: The effects of Zelda's time travel are present right from the start, because from Link's perspective, that's the only reality he's ever experienced. It's not until he begins time traveling himself that he remembers different versions of events (the tree being there/the tree not being there), meaning he is immune to the shift in events caused by his own actions. He remembers what things were like before his own time traveling actions.
- That doesn't add up, though. Unless Groose has Time Traveler's Immunity from the start of the game, he wouldn't see the tree in the Sealed Temple until the end of the game when he shows up to help Link in the past.
- Actually, that design is the crest of the Goddess Hylia. It's the same symbol as on the Goddess Walls and the crests you have to activate with the Skyward Strike. The game even states that symbol is Hylia's Crest. The Hylian shield you receive in Skyward Sword supposedly belonged to her.
- A causal link between the two can still exist. Hylia used birds as her symbol, and sent her followers into the heavens alongside allied birds — evidently she had some connection to them, including the loftwings specifically, and consequently used them as her symbol.
- It also could've been based on the Fluzzard segments from Super Mario Galaxy 2, since both of them involve diving in order to gain speed. The only difference is that Link's loftwing can flap its wings to gain altitude, while Fluzzard can only glide.
Or maybe the Dark Interlopers were just inspired by the robot-makers' art style. At any rate, there's some obvious aesthetic connection there: compare this◊, this◊ and this◊ to this◊, this◊, and this◊, respectively.
- That could explain why the Dark Interlopers tried to steal the Triforce in the first place; they wanted to used its power to restore their destroyed environment. That could explain why the Twili, while dark in nature and banished by the gods for serious crimes, are often an example of Dark Is Not Evil: their act of stealing the Triforce wasn't a race of Evil Sorcerers trying to pull off an A God Am I out of pure selfishness, but an act of desperation to save the dying people of a once powerful and noble Magitek empire.
- It might also lend some credence to the theory that the Dark Interlopers were originally Sheikah (both races have a strong connection to shadows/darkness), since what appears to be the Sheikah "Eye" [1] is found on the Timeshift Stones.
- It's worthy of note that Twilight Princess states that the events that led to the Dark Interlopers' banishment were the very first attempt to steal the Triforce and that they were stopped by Faron, Eldin, and Lanaryu. These are the names of the Light Spirits in TP (Ordona appears to be a lesser Spirit), but they're also the names of the three guardian dragons in ''Skyward Sword" (Perhaps the dragons were killed in the vast span of time between the games to return as the Spirits? 2 of the 3 have very dragon-like forms.), so that would certainly match up between the stories. Lastly, the Arbiter's Grounds, where the Twili were first banished, and the Lanaryu Desert, where the dead civilization lived, are in the same region, as can be seen in a comparison of maps of Hyrule from TP and SS.
- Also worthy of note is that it's stated that they tried to steal it by breaking into the Sacred Realm — meaning that as of Skyward Sword, they haven't done so yet, as the Sacred Realm is either not created yet or not used yet, and won't for a few generations at least. Perhaps they become desperate enough to try only when the Timeshift Stones run out?
- Alternatively, it could have been the ancestors of the Oocca, who claim to have originally lived on the ground in Twilight Princess. After they depleted the terrestrial world's resources, they decided to leave for the City in the Sky so that the other races would work to restore the land below, leaving their machines behind.
- Take note of how the Silent Realm is entirely blue, just like the Temple of Light.
- Additionally, upon collecting the final Triforce, the Silent Realm shifts from blue to a brilliant gold, similar to other games with backstories which mention the Triforce as being hidden "in the golden realm".
- That's a cool idea, but unfortunately it's Jossed by the official timeline. There are Darknuts in The Minish Cap, which takes place before OoT.
- Jossed. When Link uses the Triforce and the Statue of the Goddess falls through the clouds, he falls through the clouds just fine.
- Not necessarily. As you said, he uses the Triforce, an extremely powerful magical artifact blessed by the goddesses. If it can protect him from the impact that would naturally occur when a floating island suddenly falls from the sky (as I recall, the island's momentum is slowed near the end so it can fit neatly into the pit), it would probably protect him against some other issues as well. Can't have the chosen hero meeting an early death due to something silly like the laws of physics!
- It seemed to me that they were less trying to protect themselves as being driven crazy by Batreaux's presence.
- Link is a young boy who goes to the Skyloft Academy. His parents died when he was a kid, so he lives in one of the Academy's residences. He dosn't speak much, but is a good and responsable boy who cares about his friends.
- Zelda is Link's best friend, and the daughter of the academy director. She loves to play music and has a lyre that her mother gave to her before dying.
- Groose is the quaterback of the football team, and has a crush on Zelda (just like Link does). At first, he bullies Link because he's the only one who can be with Zelda, but in the end, he becomes friends with him.
- Ghirahim is an emo/goth student, who tries to flirt with Zelda. At first, she refuses to date him, but as time passes, he begins to manipulate her, convincing her that he is better than Link for her. But, actually, he works for...
- His father. Few pople know his name, but they usually call him Demise. He is the leader of a gang of criminals/murderers/contrabandists/whatever. He wants his son to approach Zelda, so he can capture her and kill or possibly rape her, all because he wants revenge on...
- Zelda's mother, Hylia. She was a policewoman who got Demise captured and arrested. However, a murderer that worked with Demise shot her as a revenge for imprisoning his leader. But now, 15 years later, Demise has escaped from jail, and Hylia's death isn't enough to satisfy him, no — he wants to make Hylia's loved ones suffer as a payment for his time in jail.
- Fi is a new student at the academy, a few years younger than Link. She has a mental disorder, such as Asperger's sydrome or autism, that makes her cold and emotionless, in exchange for incredible intelligence and calculation skills. She befriends Link, and help him to stop Ghirahim and Demise.
- Someone needs to make a fanfic of this.